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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 12:11:45 AM

SirKenin

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hahaha. Under consideration. Pardon me for laughing at the dumbass. If she is so fucking desperate she has to hang on to a wing and a prayer of being "accepted" or whatever the fuck her issue is, she is not worth the time of day anyways. Can you say "issues"?

Do not fret over it. Get over it. Move on. Forget about that twit and find someone worthwhile.

One more thing.. It is interesting to listen to so many women on this site bitch day in and day out about all the shit mail they supposedly get (well, truth be known they are bragging about actually getting the attention), but when they do get decent email they behave in that manner. I say they get what they deserve.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 12:19:08 AM

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Thank you tetherboy . As for some of the other replies while someone said no answer is an answer and used the bar analogy as an example of the same thing offline they do forget one thing I think. Offline you can use your eyes to pick up body language etc. While I don't believe that anyone is obligated to give the answer that others like, saying that no answer is a valid answer when you don't have any visible cues to let you know where you stand doesn't quite seem like a proper way to do things. (Just my opinion). At least offline you get some response even if the other person just walks away from you. And doesn't it take time to become jaded? I wasn't aware that a person was supposed to be given an alligator tough skin when they came online. Mine must still be in the mail I guess. And I do read the profiles before I e-mail someone. This particular young lady said it sometimes takes time for her to get back to others because her e-mail had piled up. So until she changed her profile (some 6 days after I wrote her) as far as I knew she was still looking and was just catching up with her e-mail. What a shame I didn't use my telepathic powers to read her mind hmmm? I also found it rather funny in an ironic that some accused me of whining and then they whine about me (supposidly)whining. I wasn't. I was just asking a question and used that particular case as an example of what I was talking about. There is a difference between whining and citing an example I think. I had mentioned something of the same idea in a different thread almost as an aside but I felt my question that comprised this thread fit better in the present discussion forum as I wanted to phrase it. If I had posted it elsewhere it would probably have either be ignored completly or I would possibly be blasted for posting it in the wrong forum.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 12:20:08 AM

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Okay, well, goodnight everybody!

: )

I'm going to sleepy-sleep to the great sounds of Smashing Pumpkins.

Love (without too much hate)...

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 2:13:40 AM

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Your first mistake is that you are trying to woo someone online.

Your second mistake is that you are probably wooing a cock tease.

Best to consider yourself lucky that she ignored you, she would probably only turn out to be a liar anyway.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 4:47:35 AM

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quote:

no answer IS an answer

Here's your sign!
Most people are able to figure that out. The OP needs a bit more practice.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 5:07:15 AM

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I've made a few acquaintances on the site. When this kind of thing happens to me and it bothers me, I write to one of them and say I could use a cyber hug or a kind word. No rants to strangers. No sharing of details. Just: "I feel bad and I'd like to connect with somebody for a few minutes." What I *should* do is balance that with spontaneous hugs and kind words for them when something *good* happens on this end of the screen.

There's really nothing anyone can say to make other people respond to your notes, and generalizing about a complete lack of common courtesy is just not valid.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 5:15:48 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: findmedaddy

I've made a few acquaintances on the site. When this kind of thing happens to me and it bothers me, I write to one of them and say I could use a cyber hug or a kind word. No rants to strangers. No sharing of details. Just: "I feel bad and I'd like to connect with somebody for a few minutes." What I *should* do is balance that with spontaneous hugs and kind words for them when something *good* happens on this end of the screen.

There's really nothing anyone can say to make other people respond to your notes, and generalizing about a complete lack of common courtesy is just not valid.

This is very true, and as was pointed out earlier by one of our most illustrious members, we just can't have any new members/posters going back to the other side thinking a single one of us actually gives "the glimmer of a fuck".
Much less any goddamn hugs.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 5:16:25 AM

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She already did. She stated (on her profile)that she often fell behind in her e-mail so it might be a while before she responded sometimes, then she comes online 6 days later (after the date I sent an e-mail) and changes her profile to say she's being considered. No reply, no nothing. If that isn't lying through your teeth I don't know what is. I can only hope that she gets her just desserts in the end. What goes round does eventually come round I think. And as for wooing online, I was under the impression that that was what the personals section of this site was for. Maybe one of the other "real" ladies here will show better manners. Someone said that most are just hear for the forums etc. not to find someone. Then why don't their profiles reflect that? What purpose can it serve to indicate you are looking if you aren't? It takes what 5-10 seconds to edit your profile to indicate that fact. It's funny in a way. People can often spend plenty of time in forums replying to posts, but don't have enough time to update if they aren't really looking. So far the only difference between here and other sites I know of (from my experience) is that they do charge a fee to have access.
As for talking to "aquaintances" on site rather than post, it's a bit hard to do that when the problem in the first place is in meeting someone, isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Your first mistake is that you are trying to woo someone online.

Your second mistake is that you are probably wooing a cock tease.

Best to consider yourself lucky that she ignored you, she would probably only turn out to be a liar anyway.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 5:22:56 AM

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There is also the slight possibility that , had this person actualy been placed under consideration, she was told se was not alowed to continue communication with others without permission. And perhaps you were not one of the ones she had permission to speak to. Since you are, as you repeatedly reminded us, a stranger to her, being cut off by her new Dominant might have been a move by him to keep her to herself. It isnt unusual.

But I do have to agree. Until you do get to know someone, dont take it personally when they just up and stop communicating. Sometimes they disappear becasue it wasnt a good match and they dont know how to say it. Sometimes they disapear becasue they focus elsewhere and lack the social graces to tell you that. There are a score of reasons, but dont expect much from online people until you have established an actual rapport. Its not quite a thick skin, its more like a reality check. Dont take anything personally until someone knows you as a person and not a screenname.

My 2 cents
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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 5:32:35 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mgdartist

This is very true, and as was pointed out earlier by one of our most illustrious members, we just can't have any new members/posters going back to the other side thinking a single one of us actually gives "the glimmer of a fuck".
Much less any goddamn hugs.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 5:33:59 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterC70

As for talking to "aquaintances" on site rather than post, it's a bit hard to do that when the problem in the first place is in meeting someone, isn't it?

You're welcome.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 5:55:01 AM

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Are you honestly that lame that you have to make such a huge deal out of one failed encounter? She is not interested in you. Accept it and get over it because nobody cares. M'kay?

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ORIGINAL: MasterC70

She already did. She stated (on her profile)that she often fell behind in her e-mail so it might be a while before she responded sometimes, then she comes online 6 days later (after the date I sent an e-mail) and changes her profile to say she's being considered. No reply, no nothing. If that isn't lying through your teeth I don't know what is. I can only hope that she gets her just desserts in the end. What goes round does eventually come round I think. And as for wooing online, I was under the impression that that was what the personals section of this site was for. Maybe one of the other "real" ladies here will show better manners. Someone said that most are just hear for the forums etc. not to find someone. Then why don't their profiles reflect that? What purpose can it serve to indicate you are looking if you aren't? It takes what 5-10 seconds to edit your profile to indicate that fact. It's funny in a way. People can often spend plenty of time in forums replying to posts, but don't have enough time to update if they aren't really looking. So far the only difference between here and other sites I know of (from my experience) is that they do charge a fee to have access.
As for talking to "aquaintances" on site rather than post, it's a bit hard to do that when the problem in the first place is in meeting someone, isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Your first mistake is that you are trying to woo someone online.

Your second mistake is that you are probably wooing a cock tease.

Best to consider yourself lucky that she ignored you, she would probably only turn out to be a liar anyway.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 5:59:53 AM

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I wasn't trying to be snotty findmedaddy, I was just trying to point out that if you don't know anyone in the first place it's hard to find someone to commisserate with about stuff. Anyway I never said that anyone had an obligation to respond to me, just that it would have been common courtesy that's all. By not doing that for others those who don't show that consideration do something that can't be undone. They waste the precious time of another. If two people have an argument about something they can usually make up or at least be civil to one another, but how can you return wasted time to someone? Once it's gone, it's gone.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 6:02:03 AM

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No I'm not that lame. That was just the example I used.

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKenin

Are you honestly that lame that you have to make such a huge deal out of one failed encounter? She is not interested in you. Accept it and get over it because nobody cares. M'kay?

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterC70

She already did. She stated (on her profile)that she often fell behind in her e-mail so it might be a while before she responded sometimes, then she comes online 6 days later (after the date I sent an e-mail) and changes her profile to say she's being considered. No reply, no nothing. If that isn't lying through your teeth I don't know what is. I can only hope that she gets her just desserts in the end. What goes round does eventually come round I think. And as for wooing online, I was under the impression that that was what the personals section of this site was for. Maybe one of the other "real" ladies here will show better manners. Someone said that most are just hear for the forums etc. not to find someone. Then why don't their profiles reflect that? What purpose can it serve to indicate you are looking if you aren't? It takes what 5-10 seconds to edit your profile to indicate that fact. It's funny in a way. People can often spend plenty of time in forums replying to posts, but don't have enough time to update if they aren't really looking. So far the only difference between here and other sites I know of (from my experience) is that they do charge a fee to have access.
As for talking to "aquaintances" on site rather than post, it's a bit hard to do that when the problem in the first place is in meeting someone, isn't it?

quote:

ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Your first mistake is that you are trying to woo someone online.

Your second mistake is that you are probably wooing a cock tease.

Best to consider yourself lucky that she ignored you, she would probably only turn out to be a liar anyway.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 6:08:54 AM

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Well here is the way I see it. You are complaining about wasted time. What are you, a CEO or something? Is every minute precious? You spent what? Five minutes sending a response? Did you lose a million dollar deal as a result or something? This is the internet, just as a reality check. The scene is a lost cause as it is, but you have chosen it as your last ditch effort to find a date. Fair enough. You are probably going to have to go through a large number of potentials before you make a hit. Whether they answer with a "not interested", "fuck off", "thanks anyways", "I just got a sex change" or nothing at all, it is still time "wasted" by your meaning.

The real truth is it hurt your fragile ego. Tough shit. Toughen up and move on, or maybe this realm is not the realm for you either.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 6:31:26 AM

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It might be that your interpretation of 'awhile' and her interpretation of 'awhile' were two different things. Six days wouldn't qualify as 'awhile' for me, especially if I'm only able to come on every few days or so. Even then, replying to already established relationships (ie friends) would take precidence. And it's not unreasonable to expect that she'd want to use some of her time on here to read/enjoy the boards--it is her time, afterall...otherwise CM begins to feel like an obligation rather than something to be enjoyed.

And then there's the possibility that yours was not the only e-mail she had waiting on a reply, and instead of having to explain her 'consideration' repeatedly in several e-mails, she opted to make the annoucement in her profile instead. I don't think that's unreasonable. A personal response it nice, but not manditory by any means.

And...there's always the possibility that her 'Considerer' asked her not to write back, which is His perogative, and her's to follow it.

I don't see her adding 'Under consideration' to her profile as lying, even if it happened after you sent an email. You can't be sure of when she accepted the offer of 'consideration', it could be she was thinking it over during those 6 days between your email and when she added the info to her profile. Continuing to court others (like yourself) while seriously considering someone else, that could be lying.

There are endless possibilities.

And to be frank, you're not showing her common curtesy by wishing her ill simply because you feel she should have written back. You're placing your social obligations on a complete stranger. Unless, of course, you feel it's your place to butt into someone else's budding relationship to demand an explanation.

Edited to add: I was too slow in posting. Other's have already made the same points. D'oh!

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 6:37:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterC70

Case in point: I e-mailed one lady on the 1st of this month and just tonight she updates that she's under consideration. In the meanwhile she had been online several times over the last few days and couldn't even show the courtesy of even reading, much less responding to my e-mail to her.

Sir she might also have her mail settings set so your mail went to bulk and she did not read it.

The person she was talking to may have told her no contact with other dominants durring talks. From my own experince it helps me to focus.

Maybe from your point its bad manners but from hers shes being a good and obiedent subby...

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 6:43:49 AM

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blah blah blah blah

Where is LA with the easy button? She should pop up the other million whines on this subject.

OP - read what Stef said again.

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 6:45:47 AM

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AS for every moment becoming precious you bet your ass every moment in my life is precious..Even strolling thur the forems or spending time with my grandson..A moment lost is one you shall never see again..ON a lighter note I believe some posters are just to senstive for their own good,.many can see this and put a small hurt on them..AS always just the views of this "ol" master...BH

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RE: Is common courtesy dead online? - 2/7/2007 6:50:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

blah blah blah blah

Where is LA with the easy button? She should pop up the other million whines on this subject.

OP - read what Stef said again.

oh do stop whining!

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