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Sanity -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:02:18 AM)

No, thompsonx, you're wrong again. When you cut the opinion and B.S. out of caitlyn's link, it boils down to Al Gore having said this: " During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

So he didn't say he invented it, he claimed to have created it... only a partisan hack could see any real difference there.




thompsonx -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:14:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

No, thompsonx, you're wrong again. When you cut the opinion and B.S. out of caitlyn's link, it boils down to Al Gore having said this: " During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

So he didn't say he invented it, he claimed to have created it... only a partisan hack could see any real difference there.


Sanity:
Again I would only suggest that you read the article you are basing your opinions on.  It says catagoricaly that you are wrong in your assessment.  Perhaps it is your lack of comprehension of the english language...for this is explained in the link that you posted if you would care to read it in its entirety.  It goes into detail to explain the difference between  create and invent.  Now if you do not know the difference perhaps you might invest in a dictionary.
thompson




Sanity -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:20:00 AM)

It must be awfully embarrassing for you to have to try to defend Al Gore this way, and to try to convince yourself that there's any difference between the words "create" and "invent".

I really feel sorry for you. It must suck!




subrob1967 -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:28:54 AM)

I hope Al runs, and splits the Dem vote ala Nader.

Hitlery is damaged goods, but she is a Clinton, and they're like roaches, very hard to put down.
ABM has NEVER served a full term in ANY office he's been elected to, every office he's won, he's left within a year, to run for a more prestigious office. The man has zero experience.

McCain is 70 something, and considered a RINO (republican in name only), he has no chance.
Guiliani frankly is the right's best chance, and it's slim at best. Too many of the religious reich, err right don't like Rudy for his multiple marriages, and stand on abortion.

If Hitlery gets elected, it will be the best thing to happen to republicans since Monica. Look for a change in majority in 2010, and Presidency in 2012.




thompsonx -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:29:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

It must be awfully embarrassing for you to have to try to defend Al Gore this way, and to try to convince yourself that there's any difference between the words "create" and "invent".

I really feel sorry for you. It must suck!


Sanity:
Please do not attempt to put words in my mouth. 
It is the english language I am defending here and not Al Gore.
thompson




Subject2Approval -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 3:35:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PoisonRoses

Bart Simpson would do a better job governing then the bozo up there now.
Seems Gore wasnt so funny as the spin machine tried to make him.
Remember the 'lock box'?
What was so rediculous about leaving social security alone? 
Now they are claiming it is going broke.   Well duhhhhhh.   How much has
been robbed out of it to pay for this illegal, immoral war?
I would be proud to have Al Gore take his rightful place in the whitehouse.




[:D] That was comedy.[:D]

Al Gore is a Hypocrite!

If Al Gore genuinely believed the apocalyptic vision he puts forth, why hasn’t he made any radical changes in his life? It think it’s because Al Gore isn’t as selfless as he pretends to be. This environmentalism may all just be a way to distinguish himself politically.





PoisonRoses -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 3:38:39 PM)

invented the internet...  sounds like someone believes all the bullshit the right wing puts out.    He never said that.  It was a misquote from a female reporter.   Try reserching things instead of just regurgitating things that are untrue.




KenDckey -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:27:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

No, thompsonx, you're wrong again. When you cut the opinion and B.S. out of caitlyn's link, it boils down to Al Gore having said this: " During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

So he didn't say he invented it, he claimed to have created it... only a partisan hack could see any real difference there.


Sanity:
Again I would only suggest that you read the article you are basing your opinions on.  It says catagoricaly that you are wrong in your assessment.  Perhaps it is your lack of comprehension of the english language...for this is explained in the link that you posted if you would care to read it in its entirety.  It goes into detail to explain the difference between  create and invent.  Now if you do not know the difference perhaps you might invest in a dictionary.
thompson


Hey Thompson   Are you a dictionary salesman?   Inquiring minds want to know




KenDckey -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:28:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PoisonRoses

invented the internet...  sounds like someone believes all the bullshit the right wing puts out.    He never said that.  It was a misquote from a female reporter.   Try reserching things instead of just regurgitating things that are untrue.


Hey Roses    It was said in humor   hence  ROFLMAO  




cjenny -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:36:57 PM)

Heh the server it is on hiccuped while I was at the bottom of page one, that isn't fair.




KenDckey -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:39:10 PM)

Jenny   I hate it when that happens




cjenny -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:43:02 PM)

Ah well it's okay, I got the gist of it at least. I think he is more popular than a lot of people know or want to believe, that much I will say.




farglebargle -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:43:52 PM)

Al Gore and the Internet

By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf

Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development.

No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among people in government and the university community. But as the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time.

Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective.

As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.

As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.

As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today, approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven operation.

There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political support for its privatization and continued support for research in advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.

The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.

http://outreach.lib.uic.edu/www/issues/issue5_10/wiggins/




domiguy -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:47:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Who is the mindless simpleton???

According to caitlyn's link, YOU are. He claimed that he created the internet, according to her... that isn't a far cry at all from claiming to have invented it.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

Thanks, caitlyn.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

To state that Al Gore ever once claimed to invent the internet is simply idiotic, biased, and uninformed.

Sinergy

Enjoy your ROFLMAO, but realize that anybody who has actually read about the subject will simply view you as a mindless and uninformed simpleton.




It must be a shame to be unable to understand words such as "initiative"....so many mindless simpletons.




MsPoetress -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:48:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

It must be awfully embarrassing for you to have to try to defend Al Gore this way, ahttp://www.collarchat.com/post.asp?do=reply&q=1&messageID=823910&toStyle=tmnd to try to convince yourself that there's any difference between the words "create" and "invent".

I really feel sorry for you. It must suck!


Gore said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system" Maybe some individuals would missinterpet that, but I think it is pretty clear that he has supported the idea of the internet.

Though I don't care for his politics or his motto "Do as I say, not as I do." I do believe that he did not mean he invented the interent.

~poe

Edited to state: He has been invovled with the information highway since the 70s and as a Senator he got the "Gore Bill" (High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991) passed.





farglebargle -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 5:53:04 PM)

I think Vint and Bob explained it all in sufficient detail... WHO is really competent to argue against THEM???




MsPoetress -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 6:09:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

I think Vint and Bob explained it all in sufficient detail... WHO is really competent to argue against THEM???


Exactly, if they had believed that he meant he invented the internet, they would have slapped with a law suit.

~poe




Subject2Approval -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 6:50:13 PM)

All Al Gore is good for is hunting down manbearpig

For those who do not know it is the single biggest threat to our planet. Something out there which threatens our very existence and may be the end to the human race as we know it. I'm talking of course, about... "manbearpig." It is a creature which roams the earth alone. It is half man, half bear, and half pig! Some people say that manbearpig isn't real. Well, I'm here to tell you now, manbearpig is very real, and he most certainly exists!




KenDckey -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 7:38:50 PM)

Sheesh   A guy interjects some humor and everyone gets soooooo serious.     LOL




Subject2Approval -> RE: Run, Al, Run? (2/12/2007 8:19:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

Sheesh   A guy interjects some humor and everyone gets soooooo serious.     LOL


Manbearpig is real, he is not a laughing matter!




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