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RE: __________________: annoying? - 2/12/2007 2:51:14 PM   
porthuronsub


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Status: offline 		I capitalize Mistress when speaking of my Mistress,  otherwise it is just a noun.  The slashes make reading very difficult and I think they are useless.  Once the point is made in a paragraph that there is a sub and master together, do we really need to have that reinforced with the W/we crap?  No, I don't think we do.  We are all adults and most are at least semi literate and can figure that out without it being crammed down our throat throughtout the entire text.

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RE: __________________: annoying? - 2/12/2007 2:54:16 PM   
Celeste43


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Status: offline 		The slashy stuff is a pain to read, so much so that if the post is more than a line or two I won't even read it. More than that, vision impaired people who use reader technology find it impossible to tell what the post says with the "why slash  why" being heard.

Myself, I'm not allowed to refer to myself in lower case.

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RE: __________________: annoying? - 2/12/2007 2:57:36 PM   
sensualmagirl


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This is an eye opener for me... really. Being relatively new, and having begun from the internet, that's just how I thought things were done. I had heard so many varying opinions about whether things get capitalized, I just went with the safe bet... capitalize things that would normally be capitalized and adding the caps for things like Dominant or my Master... I didn't realize it was annoying to others... I forget many times, and I always would be in fear of reprocutions (somebody would be insulted) on the boards here, so far, no one has mentioned anything. 

In our relationship, there's not so much of strict rules for capitalization or even formality as much, we are just us... but, we also started out as friends first chatting and emailing for months first before meeting.

oh, and yes, that S/slashy thing is very annoying, I can't read the posts very well with that.

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RE: __________________: annoying? - 2/12/2007 2:59:21 PM   
wyldsubmissive


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

ORIGINAL: wyldsubmissive
...Thoughts?


here at CM, it seems these types of threads serve as a platform to put others down/puff oneself up for something that is purely a personal preference. it also appears to serve some folks with an online humiliation scene.  to each their own.


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When I put up a post its generally one in which I ask for multiple viewpoints because I'm generally interested. I don't need to toot my own horn, I'm not that important.

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RE: __________________: annoying? - 2/12/2007 3:04:04 PM   
lateralist1


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Status: offline 		It doesn't bother me at all. What does annoy me is people using lower case i . Why because it confuses me. I'm having a conversation with someone who says he's a Dom and he uses i. What do I think?
Well I could think that he is telling me he is submissive to me. Or I could think he's too lazy to hit the shift key.
Or I could think he's winding me up on purpose in which case I feel like giving him a little verbal humiliation but then it wouldn't be consensual now would it lol. So I point it out but don't follow it up. Even if you are dominant you can't dominate everyone you have contact with. I chose who I try to dominate. If I didn't I would be prey to everyone who likes to wind people up. And lets face it there are a lot of them.

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RE: __________________: annoying? - 2/12/2007 3:07:31 PM   
wyldsubmissive


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ORIGINAL: lateralist1

It doesn't bother me at all. What does annoy me is people using lower case i . Why because it confuses me. I'm having a conversation with someone who says he's a Dom and he uses i.


It would just annoy me from a linguistic point of view.

*sigh*

The letter "I" is capitalized. Silly people.

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RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? - 2/12/2007 3:13:38 PM   
LadyHugs


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Status: offline 		Dear wyldsubmissive, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my mind's eyes I see, the use of capitalized "Dominant" is the connection to a title whereas, dominant is a state of being and or behavior.
 
Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: __________________: annoying? - 2/12/2007 3:16:58 PM   
daddysprop247


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quote:

ORIGINAL: wyldsubmissive

quote:

ORIGINAL: lateralist1

It doesn't bother me at all. What does annoy me is people using lower case i . Why because it confuses me. I'm having a conversation with someone who says he's a Dom and he uses i.


It would just annoy me from a linguistic point of view.

*sigh*

The letter "I" is capitalized. Silly people.

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it's so interesting what little things can annoy us. i've always lowercased "i", even back in grade school. that big, bold "I" just never felt like "me." so i couldn't ever bring myself to use it. maybe it was the subbie in me? lol

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RE: __________________: annoying? - 2/12/2007 3:29:57 PM   
GeekyGirl


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Status: offline 		I tend to prefer that people use some semblance of proper grammar and capitalization. The caps thing is something that I find silly, but can easily just ignore. The slashy thing is just flat out annoying and I usually won't read a post that utilizes this specific mechanism. It's just too hard to read, right along with the "this girl thinks that ___ and it's the opinion of this girl that _______." I understand that some people feel it's part of their protocol, but it's choppy and doesn't flow well in my opinion.

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RE: __________________: annoying? - 2/12/2007 3:30:28 PM   
MadRabbit


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Status: offline 		I tend to capitalize Dominant and Master quite a good bit, even in my own profile. I cant give a real explanation as to why I do it now that I think about it. However, I dont capitalize my own name, the words my or mine, dont have a nifty title for myself, and dont have a special online persona. I certainly dont and wont require any of capitializing, lowercasing, "this girl", blah, blah, blah from a submisisve of mine. Since any submisisve I have will be a completely real time relationship, there isnt a point to make it a protocol.

Its a nice gesture when people capitalize words in reference to me just like its nice when people refer to me as Sir, but to be honest, I dont pay much attention to it. I once had a 40 year old woman in a munch group constantly refer to me as Sir and capitalize letters in reference to me when she talked to me online. Then when I finnally met her, not only did she not refer to me as Sir once, but treated me like one of her children and her personality didnt resemble her online persona at all! Then when we talked online again, the Sir's were back and the humble persona.

More often than not, at least in my experiences and opinion, its just a bunch of "Lets pretend to be something we really arent" crap.

Capitializing the letters in my name and in reference to me doesnt make me any more of a dominant or the person doing any more of a submissive than sticking feathers up my own ass makes me a chicken.



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RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? - 2/12/2007 3:49:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear wyldsubmissive, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my mind's eyes I see, the use of capitalized "Dominant" is the connection to a title whereas, dominant is a state of being and or behavior.
 
Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs


But slave is also a title, so to speak, and no one ever capitalizes it

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RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? - 2/12/2007 3:49:57 PM   
Wildfleurs


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ORIGINAL: wyldsubmissive

I personally find that capitalizing letters for a dominant, regardless of gender comes and goes for me. I understand why its done (or at least I -think- I do.) I think that dominants require the capitalization (some of them) because they want their submissive to remember every time they type that capital letter about why they're doing it.

To me its just irksome at times.

Thoughts?



To me its a silly onlineism.

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RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? - 2/12/2007 3:57:30 PM   
Najakcharmer


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Status: offline 		Within the context of a consensual D/s relationship, folks can set rules as they like about how the submissive partner should speak or write or whatever.  It can be a useful training or mnemonic device.

Outside a consensual relationship, it's either annoying or just plain silly to see people put on pompous airs and affectations and generally butcher the English language.  Also it borders on the unreadable.  I don't care how you train your submissive, but don't use the entire BDSM community as a nonconsenting prop for their training.

Capitalizing specific names and titles is fine, but mucking about with pronouns (You or i) and doing the W/we thing is just bloody annoying. 

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RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? - 2/12/2007 3:59:10 PM   
MadRabbit


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quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear wyldsubmissive, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my mind's eyes I see, the use of capitalized "Dominant" is the connection to a title whereas, dominant is a state of being and or behavior.
 
Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs


But slave is also a title, so to speak, and no one ever capitalizes it


For the sake of fairness, that is the point. Capitalizing the dominant titles/references and lowercasing the slave titles/references is done to show power exchange, Top and bottom.

But I still find it trite and annoying

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RE: __________________: annoying? - 2/12/2007 4:03:57 PM   
nephandi


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Status: offline 		M/me, Y/You can look a little strange, but do not bother me. But i refer to myself whit a lover case nick and to Dominats whit a big front letter. i say Sir and Master/ Mistress and so on when i think the Dominant will apriciate it. So no it do not bother me at all.

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RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? - 2/12/2007 4:08:25 PM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

quote:


But slave is also a title, so to speak, and no one ever capitalizes it


For the sake of fairness, that is the point. Capitalizing the dominant titles/references and lowercasing the slave titles/references is done to show power exchange, Top and bottom.

But I still find it trite and annoying


I know it's the point of the capital/not capital thing.

However you can't say "I capital this because it's a title" and not capital the k in "Kitten Aqua". Kitten is still my title. If you say you capital it to show your power dynamic then I'll go "Ok, whatever. It's annoying but fine." It's when people say they capitalize it because it's a title that it annoys me. I view "kitten" as my title so according to the logic of giving it a capital because it's a title, my subbie kittenness deserves a capital letter too.

Make sense?

Edited to make more sense

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 2/12/2007 4:44:02 PM >

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RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? - 2/12/2007 4:16:52 PM   
MadRabbit


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Status: offline 		I understand what your saying, but your looking at it from the rational that any of this crap we do online has anything to do with proper grammar.



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RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? - 2/12/2007 4:45:09 PM   
AquaticSub


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Status: offline 		I hold out a hope that we might still respect grammar online, feeble though the hope may be. I know I don't always suceed at spelling and grammar but I do try. 

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RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? - 2/12/2007 4:45:47 PM   
cjenny


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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

I understand what your saying, but your looking at it from the rational that any of this crap we do online has anything to do with proper grammar.




Exactly lol. Sometimes I am a lazy typist but only when texting with a friend. Usually I do type Master and Dom yet don't with submissive nor slave. There are times that it is actually handy to have an immediate reference to anothers probable status without asking. It gives a chance to infer.

But it drives me nuts.


*Adding: My typing skills have greatly improved since arriving at CM  . I use punctuation now lol.

< Message edited by cjenny -- 2/12/2007 4:47:20 PM >

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RE: Capitalization for Doms: annoying? - 2/12/2007 4:57:12 PM   
MadRabbit


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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I hold out a hope that we might still respect grammar online, feeble though the hope may be. I know I don't always suceed at spelling and grammar but I do try. 


Pfft...silly, silly! We dont respect people anymore so why would we respect grammar? The people who make profiles identifying as submissives are less than huiman and supposed to treat the super people who identify as dominants with special treatment, remember? I mean this is clearly the norm of the BDSM world given the endless piles of garbage that float into my sub friends' message boxes.

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