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ORIGINAL: azzmaster

accidents can happen, nah mean? but ya know if yall don't knowwhat u doin or how far 2 push , dis da wrong game fer ya.

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

If I got injured and he sent me to the hospital, as opposed to taking me himself, I'd be furious. I would expect him to care enough to come with me and hold my hand the whole time. Not to tell me to find my own way there and back.

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ORIGINAL: MasterC70

I think it would be an abuse of trust to have intentionally cause lasting hurt to the sub/slave in the first place so that they required medical attention. 

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

Would a Dominant be in the right if they sent a submissive to a hospital for care for what was adminsistered in a session even though it was within the submissive's consent and limits?

Wouldn't this be an abuse of trust and responsibility?

Should a dominant intentionally physically hurt, not emotionally hurt?

Is harm a perception or a reality and how is it defined?

Can giving a submissive discipline on a regular basis be percieved as harm as a co enabling of an adictive personality?

Ross
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ORIGINAL: velvetears

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

Would a Dominant be in the right if they sent a submissive to a hospital for care for what was adminsistered in a session even though it was within the submissive's consent and limits?

Wouldn't this be an abuse of trust and responsibility?

Should a dominant intentionally physically hurt, not emotionally hurt?

Is harm a perception or a reality and how is it defined?

Can giving a submissive discipline on a regular basis be percieved as harm as a co enabling of an adictive personality?

Ross
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i haven't read all the responses, just kinda scanned them so if i repeat something someone else pointed out forgive me.  What i did read in response to his first question is that people are looking at it too literally.  i don't think he was actually asking that if a sub was injured should her dom take her to the hospital - i mean really that's a no brainer - what i read in his first question was -  should the dominants actions (as being the one ultimately responsible for the subs safety) be called into question if he went over the line and ended up injuring his submissive, even though what he did was still within her "limits" yet maybe against his better judgement.  And to this question i would say the dom should do what he feels is safe and good for his sub or you have to question - who's the sub!! 

Thank you. I appriciate the fact that many are responding intelligently and thinking in many different ways about what was posted.
 
Sometimes it is a matter of perception regarding how something reads...I do believe the safety of a submissive is number one yet within an agreement one might surpass a submissive's tolerance and endurance while trying to achieve a goal of pushing the limits....someting both may wish for...pervious sessions may have been a baseline from which to start from.
 
 


If i was injured and it happened within the scope of my consent or limit i would have to definately rethink things. 

Yes it would sem that you might need to take it down a notch...that perhaps your goal of pushing your predetermined limits was a bit too high for your current tolerances.
 


i would also question the ability of my dom to be able to make judgements and yes i would loose trust, but not because i was injured, rather because he was led by my limit and not his own.

Now I am losing you here....you say you wish to push the envelope but if you are injured for something you wished to accomplished you are not responsible but the dominant is?
 
So what would be your reaction if you had expectations to accomplish say being paddled 100 times because you did 75 last time and your dominant did only 80 because your reaction regardless of timing or duration or length of session just jidn't work?
 
What if the dominant thought in their judgement you were only capable of 65 last time yet you did 75 ok?


Injuries can happen and no one's perfect, so if let's say, he tied me to something that broke and i was injured, i would be more apt to not hold him as responsible and be more forgiving. 

Equipment should always exceed 3 times it's expected usage in my book.
 

Some subs enjoy emotional pain - i don't, but to each their own.  i would think emotional pain is riskier so knowing the sub and going very slowly in this area would be a wise thing to do. 

Agreed but some subs want a one stop shop the first time as they move from dom session to dom session...

Harm is both a perception and a reality - what i consider harm others may not and vice versa - then again a burn, tear (both kinds), a broken bone is obvious. The intent might not have been to harm, but a broken arm still hurts like hell and is harmful. 

Agreed...one might argue that spanking is harm to humans yet is fine regarding submissive five

Interesting last question - again depends on the perception of harm and what one considers "an addictive personality"

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ORIGINAL: mons

greetings to all

this has to be on hell of a beating to have her go to the hostiapl. yes it is right to take her if she were to have internal injuries jail time awaits the person who does not take care with safe and sane loving beatings. take her it is more important then anything.

mons