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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 8:16:15 AM

juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

i only bothered responding because i didnt like everyone jumping all over Scooter and then Jewel and then Twice. It bothered me, and some of the posts pissed me off. i would of course stooped to name calling and insulting, as i'm already in a pissy mood - but i thought better of it. (and no i'm not directing that at you Julia)

i would normally just walk away. As i was expecting something sinister about V day to be in this thread. Like V day isnt really about love, but really some age old thing where back 2000 years ago - everyone in love was slaughtered on this day. ::shrugs:: I would even contemplate further that it was the eygptions doing it...... but alas.......

so yeah, i jumped in because i dont like seeing people i like get slammed - even if they can hold their own.

I did not slam them or donating to charity. So basically you slammed my ideas instead of the person/people that irked you. No biggie, just thought I would point that out.. the issues in the OP are ones I care about, just like you have things you care about.

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 8:19:37 AM

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I have been reading these boards for a long time, before I even bothered posting.
In fact, under my old name on here I never even bothered posting.
There are certain "groups" here, and they stick together no matter what the topic is.
They will defend each other no matter what.
I enjoy watching it all, it is better than a soap opera here.

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 8:39:31 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

i only bothered responding because i didnt like everyone jumping all over Scooter and then Jewel and then Twice. It bothered me, and some of the posts pissed me off. i would of course stooped to name calling and insulting, as i'm already in a pissy mood - but i thought better of it. (and no i'm not directing that at you Julia)

i would normally just walk away. As i was expecting something sinister about V day to be in this thread. Like V day isnt really about love, but really some age old thing where back 2000 years ago - everyone in love was slaughtered on this day. ::shrugs:: I would even contemplate further that it was the eygptions doing it...... but alas.......

so yeah, i jumped in because i dont like seeing people i like get slammed - even if they can hold their own.

Odd in that I didn't see anyone being "slammed" here; I saw some ideas being discussed, agreed with, questioned, disagreed with, etc. Different people have different ways of supporting their causes. I don't see the need to put down anyone for trying to do a good thing, whether its by determining where you put your money, or rolling up your shirt sleeves and getting involved. Either is better than doing nothing, right? The only real put-down I saw was about the populace of my fine State, and I made a light hearted remark about it, as I wasn't truly bothered by it. I don't quite get the sarcasm agaisnt supporting causes in a particular way.

There's that old story of the man who was throwing starfish back into the sea, which had been washed up on shore. A jogger passes by and stops to tell the man, "You'll be here all day trying to save those starfish! Surely you can't think you're making a difference here." The man picked up a starfish, flung it into the sea and said, "I made a difference to that one."

It all starts somewhere. I don't think we should get upset at anyone trying to do a good thing, even if it only makes a difference to one person.

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:08:00 AM

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Hmm, here i was thinking people are free to start threads, post ideas and suggestions according to their beliefs, etc... People who disagree always have to knock and mock others and their ideas... Everyone should be charged a donation to your favorite worthy cause, as 'punishment'!....i wanna see the canceled checks!

always and all ways..
colleen

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:13:45 AM

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first i haven't read all the posts, but i wanted to say that i appreciate julia putting this information out there for everyone, and perhaps making some people actually stop and think about the world around them when they make certain purchases.

because i've been a history buff since i was old enough to read, i've always been sickened by the diamond trade as a whole and i would never, ever want a diamond from anywhere, i don't care how humane a manufacturer claims to be. Daddy knows that if he wants to get me a gift that's going to really infuriate and devastate me, to get me a diamond. i'd feel like a traitor to my own ancestors if i pranced around wearing a diamond tennis bracelet. recently, an acquaintance came by and showed me a diamond "journey" ring he had gotten for his girlfriend. when i saw it my first instinct was to scream, followed immediately by projectile vomiting. but holding it in as best i could i looked at him in disgust and said, "do you KNOW where that comes from??".....kind of a party pooper, ain't i? lol

and guess what?? i'm not from california! lol. or anything close to it...i'm a southern girl, from the backwoods of virginia. people generally have always found me a little crazy for 1. knowing, and 2. caring about the effects my actions have on the planet. when i was in elementary school, i begged my parents to make an hour's drive to the nearest major recycling center once a month so that we could properly dispose of all our paper, glass, plastics, aluminum. this coming from a little girl living in an area where most people burned all their trash in oil barrels in their yard. but, who cares if i stand out? if other people think my efforts are stupid or pointless? i know that every little bit counts, and who knows...some of the knowledge and caring could rub off on someone else in the process.

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:13:48 AM

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LOL colleen, you sounded very "domme" there...Ha Ha

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:17:11 AM

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Thank you daddysprop, I feel that way about diamonds too. It kinda sucked for my ex husband. He returned my engagement ring, because I did not know he was going to buy it we had never discussed it. Millions have been impacted by dirty diamonds.

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:18:01 AM

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Chocolates... well, that one, I'm going to have to live with the chance... again, you have to take it on face value that a company says they are fair trade... do I beleive them? I'm a skeptic when it comes to big business telling the market the truth about such things.

Divine chocolate is putting money into schools and the local economy
http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/

Oh, cool... thanks Julia... I have such a hard time trusting that businesses aren't lying through their corporate teeth about this stuff... but, well, again, for me, it's all about feeling like maybe in some little way, I might have helped... besides doing what I try to do to make my little piece of the world a better place.

Well, these days, with a looming IRS bill and also trying to not eat a lot of sugar, I look more at the price and the nutritional value labels first anyhow.

But, still the link is food for thought (pun intended... heheheh)

Thanks!

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:19:18 AM

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I am on South Beach....lol, I am not supposed to have anything resembling sugar

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:20:20 AM

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Julia and hers and me and mine have debated this way for months and I doubt that is going to change anytime soon. But that's ok.. I respect that she stands by what she says even when I don't agree with her and I hope she is aware of that. She has said nothing that could be construed as "slamming".. she is far to adept with the english language for that... lol

I think the reference was to a certain poster that added nothing to the thread except hateful remarks.

As irritated as I may sound, or even get with some of julia's posts.. I still appreciate an open and honest debate and she doesn't mince words or pull punches and still handles it with diplomacy and intelligence. I, for one, never under-estimate an adversary and something tells me that she doesn't either.

Admit it people, it makes for interesting reading.

Jewel

sorry for the momentary hi-jack.

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:23:06 AM

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Wow, Julia.. why the hell didnt i think of this? If i can sound 'Domme', i can be the charity! Tributes disguised as charitable donations..what an idea! You're so hot looking i'd tie ya up in a second <G>

ok, this was my 'in fun' post... i don't have a 'Domme bone' in my body!

colleen :-)~~

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:26:29 AM

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daddysprop... I always like the look of diamonds, but the actual idea of spending that much money on a piece of jewelry as well as not wanting to risk that the jeweler is telling me the truth about them not being blood diamonds... I have discovered that I love Diamonique... still set in Sterling or Gold (am allergic to costume jewelry), relatively inexpensive, and have a lifetime guarantee--you break one, they fix/replace it for you... works for me anyhow... either that or crystals are a nice alternative.

This leads me to wonder sometimes thought about the jewelry industry as a whole? Does anyone know if these pieces are made in sweat-shops? Sometimes though, I wonder if I really want to know ... otherwise, maybe I'll be running around naked, no jewelry, no makeup or perfume, afraid to buy chocolate or coffee... LOL

I guess it all boils down to doing what you can, where you can, when you can and how you can, and most importantly for you and your loved ones -- they are the most important charity of them all.

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:30:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: asubmissiveheart

I have been reading these boards for a long time, before I even bothered posting.
In fact, under my old name on here I never even bothered posting.
There are certain "groups" here, and they stick together no matter what the topic is.
They will defend each other no matter what.
I enjoy watching it all, it is better than a soap opera here.

I hang only on off topic and polls- per the board.

If someone has a huge number of posts- and I have watched them a while. I understand their posting style. If someone walks in with 29 posts- vs someone with 800. The poster with 800 is going to be considered- as there is a history to follow. Where-as the person with 20 posts could be a drive-by poster. [one who arrives upsets all- then leaves]

Now- for Julia, she knows about my increable endowment, and the very thought of her tight sexy body- in unison with mine on a beach at sunset, waves crashing, drives me wild! So of course- this hot momma deserves attention.

Scooter is a cool dude as well. I never seen him slam anyone- I have no problem with him.

In terms of message boards- this is a decent place.

Im not sure what you mean by soap opera.

-regards-

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:32:12 AM

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I worked as a hospice nurse for years and Meals on Wheels really helps a large number of seniors daily

imo, hospice is one of the most single difficult job on the face of the planet...very few people have the capacity to do that job. I certainly don't.

I think that if more people were exposed to the rewards of giving time/energy to charity early on in life it would have a profound effect on them...maybe make them more willing to be a catalyst for change. my mother delivers meals on wheels on a regular basis, she has brought my unmentionables along with her several times, and I *hope* it teaches them to respect the elderly and what it's like to be elderly in this country.

*sigh*

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:33:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: TrueCalling

Wow, Julia.. why the hell didnt i think of this? If i can sound 'Domme', i can be the charity! Tributes disguised as charitable donations..what an idea! You're so hot looking i'd tie ya up in a second <G>

ok, this was my 'in fun' post... i don't have a 'Domme bone' in my body!

colleen :-)~~

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:36:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: lighthearted

quote:

ORIGINAL: twicehappy

I worked as a hospice nurse for years and Meals on Wheels really helps a large number of seniors daily

imo, hospice is one of the most single difficult job on the face of the planet...very few people have the capacity to do that job. I certainly don't.

I think that if more people were exposed to the rewards of giving time/energy to charity early on in life it would have a profound effect on them...maybe make them more willing to be a catalyst for change. my mother delivers meals on wheels on a regular basis, she has brought my unmentionables along with her several times, and I *hope* it teaches them to respect the elderly and what it's like to be elderly in this country.

*sigh*

I absolutely agree. I took care of my step father for two years, he was wheelchair bound, blind, had COPD and brain damage. It was physically and emotionally taxing for me in a way that nothing else ever has been, but it was rewarding too. I miss him, he will be gone 1 year in April. He was a relative, and I do not know how people do this for a living. They are heroes.

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:38:27 AM

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General response ...

I admire julia for taking a stand. No offense to anyone intended, but calling this a PC, Cali thing .. or whatever ... only cheapens what she clearly feels strongly about. It used to be an American virtue to allow for individualism and the courage of conviction. Not unique to America of course.

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:38:31 AM

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Thank you Jewel, I appreciate your kind words... and I do not have to agree with people either to find them informative, intelligent, and having much to contribute. I have often read your posts in Gen Discussion and got a lot out of them.

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:42:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: sensualmagirl

daddysprop... I always like the look of diamonds, but the actual idea of spending that much money on a piece of jewelry as well as not wanting to risk that the jeweler is telling me the truth about them not being blood diamonds... I have discovered that I love Diamonique... still set in Sterling or Gold (am allergic to costume jewelry), relatively inexpensive, and have a lifetime guarantee--you break one, they fix/replace it for you... works for me anyhow... either that or crystals are a nice alternative.

This leads me to wonder sometimes thought about the jewelry industry as a whole? Does anyone know if these pieces are made in sweat-shops? Sometimes though, I wonder if I really want to know ... otherwise, maybe I'll be running around naked, no jewelry, no makeup or perfume, afraid to buy chocolate or coffee... LOL I guess it all boils down to doing what you can, where you can, when you can and how you can, and most importantly for you and your loved ones -- they are the most important charity of them all.

sensual, you probably don't want to know lol. i've done a fair amount of research over the years on the mass-produced jewelry industry as a whole, and many come with a history (and present) as evil and bloody as diamonds. however, certain jewels are significantly less "dirty"...like rubies, opals, or pearls. as far as metals go, silver and copper are generally okay. which works out great for me since imo silver (not sterling...the matte looking stuff) and copper are the most beautiful metals, and the very few pieces of jewelry that i have are made up of those metals. i've never thought diamonds or any other jewel was particularly attractive tho. it's like...ooh, shiny. whoopty doo. think i'm different from most females in that way. i would never wear any piece of jewelry purely for the aesthetics...it means nothing to me if it doesn't come with a significant history i can be proud of, or a symbol of something of great significance in my life. but to wear something just because it's all shiny and sparkly? not my thing.

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RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day - 2/15/2007 9:50:07 AM

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daddydrop... said in the voice of hammy from Over the Hedge (love that movie)

but, but, I like the shiny and sparkly

I hear you though, I just happen to love jewelry, mostly silver, so, yes, I don't think I want to know... LOL

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