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sensualmagirl -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/15/2007 9:54:13 AM)

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I am on South Beach....lol, I am not supposed to have anything resembling sugar


OT on chocolate...
I'm on a diet with my doctor/nutritionist and I kind of use South Beach as my guide... I found this 85% cocoa chocolate from the Swiss company, Lindt (my personal favorite for sentimental reasons).

4 pieces I beleive have like 3g of fiber and only 5g of sugar... but, I never eat that much, one piece satisfied that chocolate craving.





juliaoceania -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/15/2007 5:55:23 PM)

I like Lindt but I am going to have to find out where they get their cocoa, otherwise I am a big fat chocolate loving hypocrite[:D]




Sinergy -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/15/2007 8:21:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

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ORIGINAL: PoisonRoses

trashy scooterboy who accepts defeat and finds  life and the world hopeless so just sticks his head up his ass and goes with the easiest way out.


That is Scooter Trash as in a biker, not boy.
 
It is not that he finds the world hopeless it is that he choose to fight his battles in a non "California peace love it's all good" manner.
 
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ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash
so I support other organizations that have more pull. If you really feel strongly about something and want to make an impact, political influence or promoting a help organization would seem more prudent.


At least he posts genuine well thought out posts. After having read all of your 29 one or two liners you might want to consider that.


I am a bit puzzled what this post actually means.

Sinergy




ownedgirlie -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 12:31:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

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ORIGINAL: PoisonRoses

trashy scooterboy who accepts defeat and finds  life and the world hopeless so just sticks his head up his ass and goes with the easiest way out.


That is Scooter Trash as in a biker, not boy.
 
It is not that he finds the world hopeless it is that he choose to fight his battles in a non "California peace love it's all good" manner.
 
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ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash
so I support other organizations that have more pull. If you really feel strongly about something and want to make an impact, political influence or promoting a help organization would seem more prudent.


At least he posts genuine well thought out posts. After having read all of your 29 one or two liners you might want to consider that.


I am a bit puzzled what this post actually means.

Sinergy


I think it's yet another slam on Calfornia - founders of technology, growers of much of our nation's produce, supporters of alternative lifestyles, spearheaders of domestic partnership laws, not to mention the highest gross state product in the country.  Oh yeah, let's not forget, the place where movies are made, wine is offered, and aerospace is contracted by our government (for fighting peace loving wars, I think)....oh wait - that's bad, bad bad...

Huh. [8D]




juliaoceania -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 6:28:51 AM)

Number one in agriculture dollar for dollar

I believe we have the most national parks.

We also have the world's tallest, oldest, and biggest trees all in one state ( I think this is why we are called "tree huggers")

I could go on...smiles




Sinergy -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 7:34:51 AM)

 
On the subject of donating one's time to things that are worthwhile...

I do get paid as a mock assailant, so technically it is not a donation.

The net physical cost to my body is extensive.

The amount of money I am paid compared to the time I put in to the job is pennies on the dollar compared to what I make standing under a crane while expressing my morpheme.

I have been doing it on and off since 1989.

While on the surface, I am teaching (primarily) women to fight like cats that dont want to be held to protect their life, what I am really giving the person is the certainty in their limbic system that if it comes to a fight, she knows what to do.  From this standpoint, she is able to say yes when she means yes, and no when she means no.

But the thing which stands out the most for me, I can invest my blood, sweat, and tears into each and every student.  I know where my investment is going, and I get the feedback from those I invest in immediately.

Sinergy




Lordandmaster -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 7:38:11 AM)

Nestle is STILL feeling the effects of that massive boycott they endured in the 80's over their callous marketing in Africa.  Boycotts can work, Scooter.  It's not a matter of ending all injustice in the world, but of doing something you CAN to oppose injustices that particularly rankle you.

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ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash

OK...and? No offence julia, but this is sort of a typical Cali mentality isn't it? They do this and they do that, so I'm not going to buy "insert your whatever here". Damnit folks, you are not going to save the world, give it up, brutality and killing will go on as it has for centuries, it's a world market, not a nursery school. I'll buy a product because that is what I want to buy and without doing a ton of research or worrying who did what to who to get it to the shelf or if it's going to cause mutants in a thousand years. If a few people don't buy a product, oh well, there are thousands others who will. I don't like McDonalds because they support gun control, but I've noticed that although I wouldn't eat a Big Mac if I was starving, they are still in business...so I support other organizations that have more pull. If you really feel strongly about something and want to make an impact, political influence or promoting a help organization would seem more prudent.




juliaoceania -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 7:58:01 AM)

You make a good point that giving does not equal martyrdom. I think there are many people that select careers in which giving is a meaningful rewarding endeavor above and beyond the pay scale... teachers for example could often make more in the private sector, but often gravitate to teaching because they are called to it.




juliaoceania -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 7:59:31 AM)

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Nestle is STILL feeling the effects of that massive boycott they endured in the 80's over their callous marketing in Africa.  Boycotts can work, Scooter.  It's not a matter of ending all injustice in the world, but of doing something you CAN to oppose injustices that particularly rankle you


You are right, it is about not giving our hard earned money to things we disapprove of.




seeksfemslave -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 8:04:13 AM)

Sorry to be rude Sinergy, because I love you madly, but why do you keep telling us you are some form of martial arts instructor.?

I myself am a non "saucer" armchair expert. Do I regularly proclaim  that ?




juliaoceania -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 8:07:34 AM)

You know, I get to hear how you are from the UK all the time.... can you tell me why you need me to know this?

People on this site crack me up




seeksfemslave -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 8:15:01 AM)

Didn't  know I did that. Are you sure I really do it.?
I've made enough posts saying how totally fed up I am with the direction the body politic in the UK has taken.

I am a non nationalist, hard line right wing , half way informed , contraversialist. Thats what I am !




Sinergy -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 8:19:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Sorry to be rude Sinergy,



Are you really sorry to be rude?

Could simply avoid being rude in the first place, as opposed to being rude and then apologizing for it.

Sinergy

p.s. I responded to a thread about altruistic activities.  I do one.  I responded to a few threads about self defense.  I work in the industry professionally.  I respond to threads about history, I have a degree in it.  I respond to threads about BDSM, I am involved in that sort of thing.

Does this clarify things for you, or can I email you a Venn diagram of how posting on message boards works?




juliaoceania -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 8:32:44 AM)

you know seeks, people who lack debating skills often resort to ad hominems, red herrings, and straw men in order to defend their lack of reasoning ability... I will let you look up which category of falacy your posts on this thread hail under...

cheers!




Sinergy -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 8:35:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

half way informed  (snip) Thats what I am !



Some see themselves as half uninformed, others...

Sinergy




seeksfemslave -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 11:11:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

you know seeks, people who lack debating skills often resort to ad hominems, red herrings, and straw men in order to defend their lack of reasoning ability... I will let you look up which category of falacy your posts on this thread hail under...

cheers!

Ad Hominem...cant be that cos I didnt attack any body, just asked a simple question.
Red Herring: could be that cos I dont even know what the thread is about.
Straw Men: no cant be, because I never err err...well whatever I didn't include one of them.
I have been known to perpetrate the odd faLLacy

cheers to you Mother Hen lol

Now see Ms JO that you originated the thread with a serious point.
Two responses
Wicked tho' it may be what would the exploited do as an alternative in the Ivory Coast if the chocolate industry collapsed. This is an Ivory Coast political problem isn't it ?

You mention the value of agricultural output in California. Am I wrong in saying that the fields are worked there, by illegal immigrants, in what many would consider exploitative conditions.

I quite like Blossom Hill and Gallo wine. What shall I do ?




juliaoceania -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/16/2007 4:12:09 PM)

Don't buy it if you feel badly about that seeks, but sorry dude, your post to my Daddy was not about the topic at hand (red herring), and you were snarky rather than add something meaningful... also Sinergy is right.. you meant to be rude. I love it when people are disingenuous and say they did not mean to be something that they actually meant to do.. it shows just how full of shit they are...




seeksfemslave -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/17/2007 1:31:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Don't buy it if you feel badly about that seeks, but sorry dude, your post to my Daddy was not about the topic at hand (red herring), and you were snarky rather than add something meaningful... also Sinergy is right.. you meant to be rude. I love it when people are disingenuous and say they did not mean to be something that they actually meant to do.. it shows just how full of shit they are...


Of course I meant to be, I would say abrasive, but what I said was TRUE.




juliaoceania -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/17/2007 8:12:07 AM)

Seeks, You are just some internet person, while the person you are dogging on is someone I happen to know. I really do not care what your "truth" is

Now having spent quite a bit of time with the person you are dogging , I will say he devotes a huge chunk of his free time to teaching women's self defense, so of course it is something he thinks about a lot. He also devoted years of study to martial arts, perhaps if you had a third degree black belt you would talk about it too? I have seen his certifications when I helped him move. Now perhaps you have nothing that you do for anyone but yourself, perhaps your mother freaking theresa, I really do not care what you are... but in my reality it is pretty common to talk about one's daily life.. He does not need me to defend him against personal attacks.

I am soooo glad he is as giving as he is. I am grateful that he knows so much about martial arts because it makes him a skilled and talented sadist. I am also glad he openly talks about his life the way he does.

I am absolutely positive he cares more about my opinion than yours.. you are just a snarky poster on CM




Sinergy -> RE: Dark Side Of Valentines Day (2/18/2007 9:00:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

i only bothered responding because i didnt like everyone jumping all over Scooter and then Jewel and then Twice.  It bothered me, and some of the posts pissed me off.  i would of course stooped to name calling and insulting, as i'm already in a pissy mood - but i thought better of it.  (and no i'm not directing that at you Julia) 

i would normally just walk away.  As i was expecting something sinister about V day to be in this thread.  Like V day isnt really about love, but really some age old thing where back 2000 years ago - everyone in love was slaughtered on this day.  ::shrugs::   I would even contemplate further that it was the eygptions doing it...... but alas.......

so yeah, i jumped in because i dont like seeing people i like get slammed - even if they can hold their own. 



Odd in that I didn't see anyone being "slammed" here; I saw some ideas being discussed, agreed with, questioned, disagreed with, etc.  Different people have different ways of supporting their causes.  I don't see the need to put down anyone for trying to do a good thing, whether its by determining where you put your money, or rolling up your shirt sleeves and getting involved.  Either is better than doing nothing, right?  The only real put-down I saw was about the populace of my fine State, and I made a light hearted remark about it, as I wasn't truly bothered by it.  I don't quite get the sarcasm agaisnt supporting causes in a particular way. 

There's that old story of the man who was throwing starfish back into the sea, which had been washed up on shore.  A jogger passes by and stops to tell the man, "You'll be here all day trying to save those starfish!  Surely you can't think you're making a difference here."  The man picked up a starfish, flung it into the sea and said, "I made a difference to that one."

It all starts somewhere.  I don't think we should get upset at anyone trying to do a good thing, even if it only makes a difference to one person.


I was doing my mock assailant thing today, and one of the students was this little tiny thing.

I got the energy from this one that she had spent her life being picked on and put down for being tiny, as if
lack of size correlates with being helpless.  She started off kinda wimpy, but after we had started increasing the
energy of our assailant nasty vibe, she kicked the crap out of me and the other mock assailant.

Tears ran down her face for most of it.

At the end of class she indicated that what we had done had totally altered her worldview in a positive way.  I was talking to her parents and pointed out that I am a non-violent, tree-hugging, granola eating pacifist.  Not sure they believed me; I had just finished pulling their 10th grader to her knees, shoving her head in my crotch, and telling her to suck me off (bitch).  Which caused her to smack me as hard as she could in my (well protected) testicles and kick me in the head.

I dont know.  I go home when it is over.  The memories haunt me.  What gives me strength to keep doing it
is the idea (hope) that I will make a positive impact in somebody else's life which will longitudinally change society and end the cycle of violence.

Sinergy




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