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KCbuttslut4U -> Some silly questions... (3/13/2005 1:13:13 PM)

Moderators, please forgive me if this is posted twive, my internet connection is acting up.

i'm not sure if this is going to be clear or not, so please bear with me and i'll try to form this into a coherent thought. i just discovered this site, but i have been a member of several other sites for a long time, and something just doesn't make sense to me.

Why is it that Dominants, especially Domme's, are always looking for the perfect submissive, but will not meet with local, willing submissives just for play? i cannot help but wonder at the wisdom of this type of thinking. While i understand that everyone wants to have that perfect Dom/sub relationship, it seems to me there are more positive things to be gained from Domme's who are not attached having play sessions with available subs. Just on the safety issues alone, there is more to be gained by practicing your craft with a likable companion than by abstaining for a fairy-tale ending.

i discovered BDSM through my love of strap-on sex... This seems to be a bit of a reverse from the norm from what i can tell. my experience with bondage is very limited, but my viewpoint is a little different because of it.

It seems to me that a Dominant who is at least practicing their skills would be more desirable than one who isn't (because they're holding out for the perfect submissive). As someone with limited experience, i find Dominants who don't practice their craft as often as possible rather disturbing.

Don't thinks like floggers and whips require some practice too? What about things like CBT, rope bondage or pick-a-fetish?

As a Domme, how do you gain the skills to land that perfect submissive if you don't ever play?

How do you know what mistakes you're making if you don't play with submissives who are experienced in types of play that are new to you?

Isn't there a really important difference in how many years you have in the lifestyle and how much experience you actually have?

Lastly and more importantly, what makes you the right Domme for your perfect submissive if your skills are either rusty or lack refinement?


Thank you for your time.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/13/2005 1:51:55 PM)

What an appropriate title for this list of questions!

First of all, I think you are overgeneralizing big time. Every Domme here on collarme.com or anywhere else on this planet for that matter, has her own agenda. Some are looking for play partners and some are looking for their soul mate. To each her own.

I don’t think it is wise to lump us all under this description of yours. Perhaps this is your experience. But it isn’t everyone’s experience. I’m terribly sorry if you can’t find a play partner. Realise that no woman, Domme or not, owes you a play session. Have you ever considered paying a ProDomme to get your needs met?

As for your comments about Dommes refining their skills, note that learning how to use an instrument properly is a very small part of being a Domme. Being a Domme has so much more to do with the power inside. Perhaps once you realise that, you might *click* more with your local Dommes.

- LA




onceburned -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/13/2005 2:34:51 PM)

KCbuttslut4U, your profile begins with these words: " i'm very new to submission, so i don't really know what i want, or need, or desire for the most part. "

This is fine to acknowledge, and I do the same. But the message you posted is rather undiplomatic, especially for someone so new. And I hate to break the news to you, but you really should know this: **Dommes do not lack for male subs**. You and I are on the wrong side of the supply/demand ratio. It means we have to be extra careful not to offend.

Perhaps you would like to re-word your message so that it merely expresses your frustration, rather than pointing a finger at an entire group of people?

JMO.




SweetDommes -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/13/2005 2:46:25 PM)

For us, we are not looking for play partners, and we can practice on each other when our first boy isn't here - we aren't looking for the "perfect sub" but we are looking for someone that we are comptatable with. And keep in mind that just because they aren't using YOU as a part-time playmate, that doesn't mean that they don't have others ... we had one for awhile, but there are other local subs that we wouldn't touch with a 50 ft pole - due to attitude problems, mostly.

Maybe you should chill out for awhile and try to get to know people... the one guy that we did have as just a playmate for awhile was a friend before he became a playmate. Maybe you shoudl try it.




Jasmyn -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/13/2005 4:57:36 PM)

It amuses Me you question about whips and floggers getting a workout when all it is you want is to be farked with a strap-on and be used as an oral sex service boy. So tell Me what whip skill inparticular are you offering these Mistresses a chance to hone?

Secondly you are in a relationship...so when in Rome do as the Roman's do... go see a Professional Dominatrix.

Mistress Jasmyn




SecretDomme -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/13/2005 5:45:39 PM)

I find it interesting that you assume that Dommes can't practice their skills unless they are with a play partner. I have spent some time using my floggers and whip on pillows in order to practice my aim. I choose not to play with every sub that comes along because D/s is a very emotional and physical thing for me, and it's something I choose to experience with someone with whom I have a deeper connection.

Be well,
Julie




LadyAngelika -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/13/2005 7:24:29 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

It amuses Me you question about whips and floggers getting a workout when all it is you want is to be farked with a strap-on and be used as an oral sex service boy. So tell Me what whip skill inparticular are you offering these Mistresses a chance to hone?

Secondly you are in a relationship...so when in Rome do as the Roman's do... go see a Professional Dominatrix.

Mistress Jasmyn


Damn! I should read profiles more often Jasmyn. LOL.

- LA




GddssBella -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/13/2005 8:42:59 PM)

G'evening all [:)]

After a bit of a break, figured I'd sound off on the boards again.....

I can't agree enough with what Angelika, Sweet, Jasmyn, Secret have all stated. After having read the OP's profile, I can't help but wonder; does his significant other truly know about & condone his activities? I think not, lol.

I'm continually amazed just how cheap some guys are. There are skilled Pro-Dommes everywhere. They don't give a whit (usually) about marital status or other contributing factors. So long as you pay their fee & agree to the terms they set, your need for anal reaming would be satisfied.

Here's a hint buttslut, stop whining & go pony up the money. In the long run, you'll be happier because you'll get exactly what you want. Bent over, lubed, & taken for a ride along the hershey highway.

{looks above @ her outside voice typing for her & laughs}

Stay safe all, play nice & share your toys......


[:D]


Bella




VictoriaStCyr -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/13/2005 10:42:52 PM)

. . . make that stupid questions. you have a lot to say for a newbie. You are quite presumptuous in thinking that Dommes need play partners. You are presumptuous in all your comments but hey its good for some debate. I have to agree with all the ladies who posted here. And as a professional Dominatrix It gets really old to hear, well if you are into BD/SM you should always want to play, want to play with anyone and as a pro Dom I add, play with everyone who calls and waste my time thinking they should not have to give me a tribute because after all I'm a Domme.

Everyone comes into the BD/SM world with a different agenda. and you will eventually come to realize this. Perhaps you have not found someone who you are on the same page with and maybe you might not find that person with your current attitude. Suggestions were given for you to see a pro Dom but from the tone of your post it doesn't sound like you would want to give a monetary tribute (and they aren't cheap!) for the lady's time because it sounds like you feel you are somehow owed free playtime for Dommes to practice on. you are so wrong.


Mistress Victoria




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/13/2005 11:48:49 PM)

Why do you assume We are abstaining?
Silly boy, with the silly questions. My play skills have nothing to do with whether or not you can do the dishes, clean My bathroom, wash My car, and countless other tasks you would be required to perform. My strap-on, which you so badly want, is not for your pleasure. It is for Mine.
If you are lounging around a club or party with the attitude that you are there only to play, then it is about you, isn't it? Most Dominas are not going to be attracted to that aura!




BeachMystress -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/14/2005 12:47:01 AM)


You feel that because no one will play with you that the Domme aren't playing? Um.. that seems like an over generalization. I think what you can say that no one is interested in you. You're very limited in what you're willing to do. You claim to want to be submissive, then you have a list of what you don't like. There are more reasons you're being turned down than that these women are holding out for someone who can have a relationship.

But that in itself is a big thing. Why would a Domme who is looking for a relationship bother giving their Dominant energy to you, when they have 20 contacts a day asking for their attention? I'd say at least half of those contacts each week come way closer to meeting her ideal than you do. You are taken. She'll be in another relationship fairly soon if she wishes. Bothering to set up a playtime with some random sub isn't worth it.

Now we come to your really silly assumption.. that she needs to practice when she isn't in a relationship. I'm just going to laugh at that one and walk away. It's just too silly to bother formulating a reply to tell you why it is so silly. You'll understand when you've been in the lifestyle a few years. In the mean time, quit bothering women who have expressed the wish for single subs and go pay a Pro. Better yet, buy your girlfriend a strap on and beg.




KCbuttslut4U -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/14/2005 12:58:23 AM)

Interesting responses. Pretty useless mostly, but interesting... Lets re-cap some of the highlights, shall we?

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As for your comments about Dommes refining their skills, note that learning how to use an instrument properly is a very small part of being a Domme. Being a Domme has so much more to do with the power inside. Perhaps once you realise that, you might *click* more with your local Dommes.

Why would i want to "click" with someone who honestly believes this without an outstanding medical plan? Your "power inside" doesn't mean you know jello from corn nuts when a submissives safety is involved.
Question: What good is that "power inside" without someone to have power over, even if only for a short time?

quote:

This is fine to acknowledge, and I do the same. But the message you posted is rather undiplomatic, especially for someone so new. And I hate to break the news to you, but you really should know this: **Dommes do not lack for male subs**. You and I are on the wrong side of the supply/demand ratio. It means we have to be extra careful not to offend.

Thank you for the advice Chris. Wise words. As undiplomatic as my question seems, it was written in a sincere effort to understand something that i have observed through reading profiles. i realize that male subs are a dime a dozen, my questions were aimed at the quality of male subs an unpracticed Domme might expect to find, as well as how important keeping skilled at domination is to a Domme. However, since you responded consider this; as a male submissive, how wise do you think it would be to submit to, say CBT, if you were reasonably certain that a Domme is unskilled in that activity. Is that session worth the risk of permanent, irreversable damage?

quote:

It amuses Me you question about whips and floggers getting a workout when all it is you want is to be farked with a strap-on and be used as an oral sex service boy. So tell Me what whip skill inparticular are you offering these Mistresses a chance to hone?

Actually, thats sort of the point, now isn't it? What kind of twit would let someone who doesn't know what they're doing smack them around with a single-tail just because they happen to own one? i would think that more submissives would be concerned about that sort of thing. While i dearly love being "farked" with a strap-on, in order to move into a more involved sort of play, sanity tells me that emergency room visits are a bad thing.

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I'm continually amazed just how cheap some guys are. There are skilled Pro-Dommes everywhere. They don't give a whit (usually) about marital status or other contributing factors. So long as you pay their fee & agree to the terms they set, your need for anal reaming would be satisfied.

Here's a hint buttslut, stop whining & go pony up the money. In the long run, you'll be happier because you'll get exactly what you want. Bent over, lubed, & taken for a ride along the hershey highway.

Interesting comments, and a little hypocritical considering the comments in your own profile GddsBella. You are searching for "One who knows that this lifestyle is less about kinky sex than the connection; the power exchange between a dominant & a submissive." Yet your suggestion is that i pay someone for kinky sex rather than find a way to find someone with whom to connect in a power exchange. Here's a hint GddsBella, anyone can use someone elses own words against them. It's a pointless endeavor, and childish at best. Thank you for allowing me this time to connect with my own inner child though.

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I find it interesting that you assume that Dommes can't practice their skills unless they are with a play partner. I have spent some time using my floggers and whip on pillows in order to practice my aim. I choose not to play with every sub that comes along because D/s is a very emotional and physical thing for me, and it's something I choose to experience with someone with whom I have a deeper connection.

Thank you very much. i appreciate the straightforward response SecretDomme. That actually does help clear up some of my questions.

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Everyone comes into the BD/SM world with a different agenda. and you will eventually come to realize this. Perhaps you have not found someone who you are on the same page with and maybe you might not find that person with your current attitude. Suggestions were given for you to see a pro Dom but from the tone of your post it doesn't sound like you would want to give a monetary tribute (and they aren't cheap!) for the lady's time because it sounds like you feel you are somehow owed free playtime for Dommes to practice on. you are so wrong.

Um, actually no. The point of my questions were intended to find out how important Domme's think a working knowledge of there skills are. A professional Domme would not be likely to attract a very large clientel if she was ignorant of how to use her equipment. In a private sense, my questions go to the quality of submissives a Domme is likely to attract if she does not practice her skills, as well as the safety of their potentual submissives.

quote:

Why do you assume We are abstaining?
Silly boy, with the silly questions. My play skills have nothing to do with whether or not you can do the dishes, clean My bathroom, wash My car, and countless other tasks you would be required to perform. My strap-on, which you so badly want, is not for your pleasure. It is for Mine.

Why yes, as a matter of fact, i would love to experience your strap-on. Thats not the point of these questions though Ma'am. Sorry, that just had to be said. I digress...
quote:

If you are lounging around a club or party with the attitude that you are there only to play, then it is about you, isn't it? Most Dominas are not going to be attracted to that aura!

Let me use your line of thought for a moment. If you were lounging in a club, or at a party and obviously lacking in competency or any real skill, what sort of submissive would be attracted to your "I am Woman, hear me roar" aura if thats the only thing you really have to offer?

Oh well, we live, we learn not to ask serious questions in the "Ask a Mistress" Forum...

Thank you




SweetDommes -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/14/2005 1:14:27 AM)

I don't think it's a case of "not to ask serious questions" - I think it's a case of rephrasing them so as to not come across as a total ... I dont' even know what to call how you sounded.

Your profile and your post didn't impress me much at all - the fact that you are involved with someone and still looking elsewhere impresses me less. If someone local to me, with a profile and post history similar to yours, I would say "thanks but no thanks" and move on - if that offends you, then ... tough.

I notice that in your last post where you replied to everyone, you ignored my post - not that I'm upset about it, but I do want to point out again that just because someone says that they are looking for their perfect match it doesn't mean that they are "letting their skills rust" while they are looking for someone - just because they aren't interested in scening with you doesn't mean that they aren't scening with others that they have become friends with. If you approach them respectfully with a "hello, I would like to make local friends" type message, you might end up with someone willing to scene with you from time to time - but don't expect it to happen today, tomorrow, next week, or even next month. These things take time. You also might want to try meeting someone at your local munch group ... and by chance have you mentioned your interests to your SO? You never know ... she might be willing ...




KCbuttslut4U -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/14/2005 2:27:29 AM)

Dearest SweetDommes

Actually, not mentioning your post was an oversight. i found your post to be informative in a general sense, although it doesn't actually answer any of my questions. Since you posted a second time with equally generalized information, i wanted to take a moment to clear something up. i do not take any issue with someone who simply says they do not think i'm who or what they are looking for. It is rudeness and idiocy that i take issue with. So far you have displayed neither. Sadly, it seems that my OP was taken as such, although that was not my intent. However, English seems to be a second language to some of the people who commented on my post...

My questions were not aimed at how to find myself a play partner, they were aimed at attempting to discover the importance Domme's place on perfecting their individual skills, how it is possible to do so without actually spending time at them, and what sorts of submissives they truely expect to keep if they are not as skilled as they portray themselves to be.

My questions were asked after reading a great number of profiles by Domme's who make it clear that they are waiting for the right submissive to come along. Just as they feel they deserve the best submissive possible, i feel that to be the best submissive i can be, i should seek out the best Domme possible. Just as you wouldn't waste your time pursuing the likes of me for the reasons you so eloquently stated, i would not persue most Domme's for my own reasons. i have my standards, you have yours. i earnestly believe that any Domme without high standards for her craft isn't worth my time and effort...

On one level, there is a safety issue that concerns me. As i am unexperienced with a variety of BDSM activities, i would like to think that a submissives safety is a consideration before finding out the hard way that it is not. Clearly, this is not the case by what i have been reading here.

If it were just a matter of finding a woman willing to shag me with a strap-on, thats actually a pretty easy thing to do. i chose to explore BDSM and submission for more than just kinky sex. Frankly i'm finding more and more that most Domme's suffer from over-inflated ego's simply because they have so many men willing to settle for their paltry abilities because no one else will have them. Men follow a vagina like dogs. Theres no mystery to why there are so many men and so few women on these sites. i'm certain every Domme here has 20-30 men panting and begging to serve them. Big surprise, huh?

For myself, i have a higher standard. Do i deserve it? Am i worthy? Probably not, but if the task of finding a quality Domme were a simple one, it wouldn't be worth doing, now would it?

Thank you





onceburned -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/14/2005 6:30:13 AM)

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as a male submissive, how wise do you think it would be to submit to, say CBT, if you were reasonably certain that a Domme is unskilled in that activity. Is that session worth the risk of permanent, irreversable damage?


This is a form of play I have not experienced. Since I have little interest in casual play it is unlikely that I would encounter it outside of a committed relationship in which trust has been built up. Part of that trust is the knowledge that my Domme is not reckless, that she doesn't take risks she isn't fully prepared to deal with.

Everyone one is new to something in the beginning. Reading, watching and guided particpation can help someone gain new skills. I would not be with a domme who did not acquire skills before she tried to practice them.

At the heart of D/s, for me, is the relationship between the Domme and the sub. This is where the most important skills lie - not in kinky play.

KC, your first post seemed judgemental - with an undertone of anger. Your subsequent posts have been more plainly so. Why are you so angry? Most dommes I have communicated with have been either charming or wise or plain-spoken (and usually a mixture of the three.) And in each case, I didn't feel a need to pass judgement on them.

I don't understand your anger. Words such as
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Frankly i'm finding more and more that most Domme's suffer from over-inflated ego's simply because they have so many men willing to settle for their paltry abilities
make me wonder..."What is eating him?"




MizSuz -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/14/2005 9:32:13 AM)

It takes me about 5 minutes (or less) to get my aim back to 'on target' with a singletail if I haven't used it much in recent months. I usually do that on the tip of a pillow or I hang a long towel up in the middle of the room at about torso height (shoulder, shoulder, ass, ass). The same could be said with florentine flogging, although I've found that arm strength and duration have a lot more to do with practice in regards to using heavy floggers.

Most of the other skills I have I acquired in vanilla ways. Nursing school/jobs/etc. Lots of my skills were acquired through reading, although honing those skills were done in person; a lot of skills are about simply taking the time to consider common sense once a person's acquired the prerequisite information. I also network with people I know are experienced players if I'm going to do something new.

Of course, I spent a number of years making my living as a pro and thereby acquired a TON of experience that may have otherwise taken me decades to acquire. Not necessarily experience in new techniques so much as experience of different situations that can arise during the coarse of said play.

I don't play casually (in general) because it still requires sifting through the haystack to find someone worth the trouble to play WITH. It's a process that I've come to abhor, especially when the vast majority of male subs/bottoms looking for play are essentially looking to "be done" without having to give anything back. Their willingness to play crash test dummy (while calling it their 'gift of submission') is all they bring to the table. It's just not enough for me. I could hang out a shingle to give free play out literally ALL DAY EVERY DAY (I live close to nyc); there's nothing in it for me.

You write in a fairly erudite fashion, perhaps you are familiar with supply/demand issues and the notion of diminishing returns. For me, sifting through the haystack is a situation of diminished returns. I'm not looking for 'the one' nor am I looking for a 'partner' and even without benefit 'a relationship' I still find (in general) casual play to TAKE much more than it GIVES to me.

Does that mean that I don't play casually? Not at all, it means that I don't consider people who contact me looking for casual play. I first look for the individual who is interested in me. Everything else flows from that.

Just because we are kinky that does not mean that we are not ladies/women/individuals. Many of us are quite fed up with being approached as if we were a life support system for a whip/strap on/rope. Just because we are kinky does not mean we are loose or easy, and just because we don't play often does not mean that we are without skills.

It's prudent to be concerned about your safety in the hands of another, it's also prudent to understand your audience when you are trying to interact with them. It's also a good idea to have a very clear idea of what you bring to the table.

KCbuttslut4U, what do you bring to the table (another 'silly' question)?




SweetDommes -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/14/2005 10:37:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: KCbuttslut4U

Dearest SweetDommes

Actually, not mentioning your post was an oversight. i found your post to be informative in a general sense, although it doesn't actually answer any of my questions. Since you posted a second time with equally generalized information, i wanted to take a moment to clear something up. i do not take any issue with someone who simply says they do not think i'm who or what they are looking for. It is rudeness and idiocy that i take issue with. So far you have displayed neither. Sadly, it seems that my OP was taken as such, although that was not my intent. However, English seems to be a second language to some of the people who commented on my post...




Apparently, I failed to get my point across. Once again - who is to say that they are not practicing? We do not play casually with random people, but we are not "out of practice" because we "practice" on each other. And just because they are not "practicing" with you does not mean that they are not "practicing" with others or with dressforms or towels or pillows or whatever else they choose to practice with. You made a generalized assumption that because they aren't advertising for casual play that they are totally against it, and that if they aren't playing casually that they aren't "practicing." Since you are not in their bedrooms/homes, you cannot possibly make that assumption. And Suz has a good point as well - you can learn a lot about the safety considerations from other people and from doing research on whatever it is. We have learned a lot about a lot of things - not all of them are things that we have interest in, but we still know the basics and between our knowledge of basic human anatomy and my more specific knowledge as a nurse I think that we can get what we want done without harming whoever we are doing it to. I have actually had people who have told us that they would feel safer scening with us because I am a nurse than they would with someone with 10 more years of experience than we have.




GddssBella -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/14/2005 3:26:31 PM)

G'afternoon all:

It appears we have another "angry" sub on our hands. If I had a dime for every time someone took my posts out of context, I'd be a millionaire.

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Interesting comments, and a little hypocritical considering the comments in your own profile GddsBella. You are searching for "One who knows that this lifestyle is less about kinky sex than the connection; the power exchange between a dominant & a submissive." Yet your suggestion is that i pay someone for kinky sex rather than find a way to find someone with whom to connect in a power exchange. Here's a hint GddsBella, anyone can use someone elses own words against them. It's a pointless endeavor, and childish at best. Thank you for allowing me this time to connect with my own inner child though.


I never recommended you pay for kinky sex. Pro-Dommes would never have intercourse with their clients. That's prostitution. They also never allow oral or anal sex upon their person either. Knowing several, I speak from experience & observation, not conjecture.

How would you possibly gain a real connection for power exchange when you're attached to someone else?? Where's the TRUST? A core component of any successful relationship, be it vanilla or bdsm, revolves on trust. A concept which seems to be alien to you.

Regarding a domme's skill levels: don't assume that just because she's not playing w/ you or other unspoken for subs, that she lacks in experience or aptitude simply because she won't spend her energy on you. I personally practice my floggers, whips, canes, bats, & a myriad of other tools on items around my apartment in order to stay on top of my game. Which several other ladies have attested to doing as well.

Everyone, whether top, bottom, sub, dom/me, slave or whatever should always seek to ensure their own safety. It would be stupid to do so otherwise. "Playing" without knowing your partner's skill level or tolerances is foolish. That's why there's negotiations. How would you know from just a look if someone lounging in a club lacks competence? Nice assumption. {eye roll}

buttslut, you got the backlashes you earned from the pissy tone of your original post & your snippy rejoinders. If you do nothing but accuse an entire portion of the lifestyle community of incompetence, you're going to just reflect poorly on yourself & no one else. Bdsm can be a wonderful journey to share with someone special & both can learn along the way. Then again, I never bought for a minute your claim that your significant other has knowledge of your activities & consents to your search outside of your relationship to fulfill your fantasy.

If you didn't care for the answers, you never should've asked the silly questions. Especially in a forum not catering to your chosen designation.


Stay safe all, play nice, & share your toys w/ others.....


[:D]


Bella




LASub4Real -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/14/2005 7:28:19 PM)

Perhaps I take a risk speaking here... but I will try anyway.

Dear KCbuttslut4U:

So much of anything begins in the mind. Perception is the thing. Permit me to ask you how you would feel about going to a pro, and paying your $300.00 if you thought that all the while she was saying to herself, "Boy, working this guy over is making $300.00 the hard way!!!" What if you suspected that she'd take your money, then comment to the other Dommes on what a sorry sack of %%#@ you were? Or what if she thought of you as a pathetic loser just for being desperate enough to show up on her doorstep? If you suspected this, do you think that you would enjoy her services much? Would you pay for them?

Criss cross. So now think of the Ladies here. If they suspect that what you are really after is to somehow manipulate them into doing something that actually only turns you on sexually. If they believe that you care nothing about them really and are only in it for yourself. If they come to think that you truly offer them no submission of heart or service, or humility, but instead will revert back to "I am superior" mode 5 seconds after you cum, then you offer them the same thing as our imaginary pro offers you. Nothing.

Much of the thrill of anything sexual is gone if we think that the person is only doing if for their own alterior motives--whether that be money, of a novel orgasmic experience. These Ladies are not interested in most of us for our bodies, as much as for our minds, if they are interested at all. Remember, these are not men.

My advice, perhaps, will not be well received or terribly helpful, but it is honestly offered and honestly meant.

LAsub




GentleLady -> RE: Some silly questions... (3/14/2005 9:34:06 PM)

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As undiplomatic as my question seems, it was written in a sincere effort to understand something that i have observed through reading profiles

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an unpracticed Domme

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as well as how important keeping skilled at domination is to a Domme.

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What kind of twit would let someone who doesn't know what they're doing smack them around with a single-tail just because they happen to own one? i would think that more submissives would be concerned about that sort of thing

and what makes you believe that other submissives are not just as concerned? Just because the Dominas you have met or contacted are not willing to play with you on a casual basis does not mean that They are not playing with other submissives and keeping Their skills honed. For your information it is NOT safe to practice flogging/whipping on a live person. Most Dominas practice first on something like a pillow until They are confident that They are not going to accidently take a chunk of flesh out with each blow.
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A professional Domme would not be likely to attract a very large clientel if she was ignorant of how to use her equipment. In a private sense, my questions go to the quality of submissives a Domme is likely to attract if she does not practice her skills, as well as the safety of their potentual submissives.

Now that is an excellent question and I suspect you would have saved a lot time and energy had you posted just that the first time. However, please bear in mind that skills with a particular item are still not going to demonstrate a Domina's skill as a Dominant. That must be experienced first hand to be determined and is a very subjective value. In addition, "practicing" (if you will excuse the phrasing) the skill of being Dominant can be done anywhere and does not necessarily require a play partner as such. I am Dominant at home, at work, with My family, and when I am with a submissive.

If you want to know if a particular Domina is worth your time/is skilled at Her craft/knows what She is doing/etc., then go down to your local club and watch Her behaviour and scenes. Look at how She treats those around Her. Talk to Her and find out how She views the safety of a submissive. Ultimately this is going to be the only test that is acceptable to you. And....*quick chuckle*....that is the whole point of taking the time to get to know each O/other BEFORE play occurs.

MizSuz put it beautifully

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Does that mean that I don't play casually? Not at all, it means that I don't consider people who contact me looking for casual play. I first look for the individual who is interested in me. Everything else flows from that.


On a personal note, I studied, asked questions, and read for six months before using a strapon the first time to make sure I was not going to injure the submissive. I learned My CBT skills under the training of the submissive I was practicing on. he had close to 20 years of experience and, because it was his body I was training on, could tell Me exactly what to do and when and for how long and what it felt like. your assumptions that Dominas are not practicing Their skills because They are not advertising for casual play in Their profiles is just that...an assumption.

Gentle Lady





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