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Let it be...Let it be - 3/13/2005 3:45:09 PM   
FragileRose


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Status: offline 		I'm letting this go. In the words of John Lennon,

"There will be an answer.
Let it be. Let it be."

Peace everything. It is unlikely that I will return to post on the boards.

Everything has good and bad to it. I had a great conversation today with someone that contacted me via this bulletin board. So, on to new friends and new experiences.



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RE: Outta here...Not into Flogging and Pain - 3/13/2005 6:12:32 PM   
proudsub


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Status: offline 		Please don't leave rose. I reread doc's last few posts and can't find anywhere where he attacks you, in fact i feel he supports you. Maybe i missed something. He has a strong reply to Lily, but even that is respectful. IMHO

edit--now my post makes no sense since rose chaged her original post for the third time.

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RE: Outta here...Not into Flogging and Pain - 3/13/2005 6:23:43 PM   
FragileRose


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Status: offline 		I was not attacking DocWatson. Sorry it was unclear. I was unhappy being called a bitch in another post. I have changed the quote above to clarify exactly what I was responding to.



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RE: Outta here...Not into Flogging and Pain - 3/13/2005 6:36:58 PM   
mistoferin


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Status: offline 		Rose,
In the post that you are referring to, I don't believe that you were called a bitch...unless you really were the woman in the hotel room with that slave's ex husband....and I don't think you were. You have come here and told the world that you are in a relationship with a married man who's wife has given no consent to such activity. There are a lot of women here and everywhere else in life who have been that "wife". It is a very painful position to be in. You can not expect that people will not have some very strong opinions in regards to such an arrangement. You do have to expect that it will trigger some very strong emotion in some. I am not judging the position you are in as I have no idea what that would be like. I don't however, believe that you were called a bitch, I believe she was trying to get you to see that by your admission, this is how a certain percentage of the population (those who have been cheated on) will view you. Most likely this man's wife would have similar terminology should she find out.

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RE: Outta here...Not into Flogging and Pain - 3/13/2005 6:52:52 PM   
proudsub


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quote:

In the post that you are referring to, I don't believe that you were called a bitch...


I agree with erin. I think bitch was being used as a generalization.

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RE: Outta here...Not into Flogging and Pain - 3/13/2005 6:54:15 PM   
FragileRose


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Status: offline 		Sorry, but if we are not going to engage in moral relativity here, then I am not going to accept language that clearly says, "You are that bitch..." Not acceptable. Not at all.


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RE: Outta here...Not into Flogging and Pain - 3/13/2005 7:04:19 PM   
mistoferin


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Status: offline 		Rose, I am not attacking you. I am not trying to say that the comment was right or wrong....just that I read it differently than you did. I am certain that your perspective is different as I am not the one in your shoes. I would hate to see you leave as a result of one comment.

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RE: Outta here...Not into Flogging and Pain - 3/13/2005 7:24:33 PM   
onceburned


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quote:

I am not going to accept language that clearly says, "You are that bitch..." Not acceptable. Not at all.


I wouldn't like to be insulted either. When I read the original message I believed that beth meant that the situation you are in reminds her strongly of a something she faced in her past - something she still feels great anger about. "You are that bitch" did not mean to call you a bitch but that you are in the position/role of a person that caused her great pain. I think she was sharing how much hurt this situation can cause.

I don't think she meant to insult you.

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RE: Outta here...Not into Flogging and Pain - 3/13/2005 7:41:45 PM   
domtimothy46176


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Status: offline 		jeez, I missed out on the fun, I guess. Are you saying that posted that you're cheating with some guy on his wife and now you're leaving because someone suggested that makes you a not-so-nice person? You expected accolades, maybe? LOL, I would say that if you're going to impose on someone else's committed relationship on the sly you might want to consider growing a thicker skin. Last I checked, that type of behavior tended to make one wildly unpopular with those who consider committed relationships to be sancrosanct.
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RE: Let it be...Let it be - 3/13/2005 7:44:53 PM   
painworthy


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Status: offline 		Seems to me that anyone that sensitive is going to be doing a lot of leaving.

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RE: Let it be...Let it be - 3/13/2005 7:54:37 PM   
domtimothy46176


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Status: offline 		Yep, I would think so too. Maybe she isn't cut out to be a cheater. Most of the ones I know really don't give a crap what anyone thinks of them or their activities. I always figured it a pasttime that pretty much required narcissism to be developed beyond the point where reproach had any meaning. *shrugs*
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RE: Let it be...Let it be - 3/13/2005 8:46:48 PM   
RiotGirl


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RE: Outta here...Not into Flogging and Pain - 3/13/2005 8:57:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: domtimothy46176
Are you saying that posted that you're cheating with some guy on his wife and now you're leaving because someone suggested that makes you a not-so-nice person? You expected accolades, maybe? LOL, I would say that if you're going to impose on someone else's committed relationship on the sly you might want to consider growing a thicker skin. Last I checked, that type of behavior tended to make one wildly unpopular with those who consider committed relationships to be sancrosanct.
Timothy


Thought the very same thing; wasn't going to say it because she says she's been spanked by someone describing how she felt when she was betrayed, and how Ironic Rose is so sensitive.

I don't believe in cheating; I believe that making a different choice because this one is not fullfilling is what divorce is for; if your life is tooooooo wonderful to risk divorcing, than buck up and live it wonderfully as it is; don't try to have it all, it simply does not work, I believe sooner or later the proverbial shit will hit the fan and you'll all have to clean it up.

Rose, I really don't want you to leave, because whatever choices you make, will require thinking and re thinking, and you may find some of the advice here useful. You will need to learn to take it a little better though because what you're proposing to do is touchy to many people for a lot of reasons. Good Luck, M


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RE: Let it be...Let it be - 3/13/2005 9:04:45 PM   
happypervert


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Status: offline 		I think if you want to leave, then go and good riddance. There are few things as annoying as some drama queen announcing she's leaving because her feelings are hurt for such petty reasons, because it really looks like you're just fishing for everyone to come with the group hugs and beg you not to go.

And if you're really going to go, then get lost and stay gone -- don't keep on posting to say that you really are going and you won't be persuaded to stay. Sheesh!

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RE: Let it be...Let it be - 3/14/2005 12:38:32 AM   
domtimothy46176


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RE: Let it be...Let it be - 3/14/2005 1:17:42 AM   
BeachMystress


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Rose, I just talked about this subject in a personal note to someone. These people do not know you. They do not know your situation. Their opinion of you doesn't matter. Shrug and ignore them. Just move on. Getting upset over it just gives power to the people being insensitive or downright rude and hurtful. Think about how frustrating it can be for someone trying to hurt you when you find their attempts humorous, or worse, don't even notice.

I've no clue what thread this post refers to, since I've not been dealing as much with the boards lately. Things went downhill after that the multi personality poster. Nasty flames seemed to come back into fashion. When a thread starts having personal attacks in it, I don't bother with it anymore. I'm here to share information, gain knowledge and enjoy others. I'm not here to listen to everyone be nasty. I make allowances for bad days, since we all have them. The mood of the board has gone far beyond that. My way of dealing with it is avoidance.. not coming on for days at a time. I'm hoping that when spring comes to the eastern states, and things get nice outside again, people will be in a more cheerful mood and the boards will stabilize again.


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RE: Let it be...Let it be - 3/14/2005 1:55:13 AM   
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I agree with m'Lady Beach, rose...

Do not be chased away, as this gives people power. Power I am sure, You are not wishing to submit to. You are fairly new to the site, and attacks and flaming happens more than it 'should' on a forum for a Lifestyle that constantly is up in arms because it isn't 'tollerated' or 'portrayed in a bad light'...

People don't know you... they don't know the whole situation. Yes, It can be argued that if something is brought into the forum, then you have to accept that its going to have good and negative points made. But don't let it put you off. It's fear that causes people to attack, pure and simple. Even if people cannot see it...

One of the bravest, and most powerful things you can do now, is come back.

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RE: Let it be...Let it be - 3/14/2005 3:31:00 AM   
ElektraUkM


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Status: offline 		Well I might as well jump in at the deep end with my first real post. I've been wanting to 'come clean' since I joined... and with all the recent hoo-har (the politics of which I, as a newbie, haven't fully understood) I thought now is as good a time as any.

Well, I am involved with a married man. He's my Master. To compound my 'offence' it's a relationship conducted entirely online and on the phone. The reason for this is that neither of us are happy about the situation at the moment... he doesn't want to cheat, but he has 2 young children and doesn't want to divorce his wife and turn their lives upside down. On the other hand, we both know its a bad situation for everyone concerned. What do we do..? Mess up his children's lives because we fancy some real life D/s..? I know that I don't like what I'm doing, but there it is. And I'm not here to defend it. Just thought I'd put it out there and say 'hello all'.

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RE: Let it be...Let it be - 3/14/2005 3:39:18 AM   
darkinshadows


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oh no...

Your involved with a married man, online, phone AND you have the audacity to be a slave WITH A CAPPED NAME *shocked look*....

Welcome to the forums hunni, and I hope you enjoy your journey. Your very brave for your openess.


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RE: Let it be...Let it be - 3/14/2005 11:10:57 AM   
SweetDommes


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ElektraUkM

he doesn't want to cheat, but he has 2 young children and doesn't want to divorce his wife and turn their lives upside down. On the other hand, we both know its a bad situation for everyone concerned. What do we do..? Mess up his children's lives because we fancy some real life D/s..?


My $.02, since I have taken the classes on child development and the psych classes that have discussed this - it actually "messes up" the lives of the children involved just as much to stay in a relationship where the parent(s) are not happy. It is never easy no matter which decision is made, but the thought of "staying together for the children" isn't a good reason to stay together - if there are other, better, reasons for him to stay with his wife, then so be it, but if the children are the only reason, then he might as well go through the divorce and do his best to keep it amiable and friendly - that is what has been shown through research to be the best for the children.

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