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bbwdommelilith -> penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/16/2007 8:16:46 PM)

I am looking for some ideas about how to punish a female sub who spoke disrespectfully to her Master. They must be active punishments (not simply withdrawal of attention), and the more sexually-oriented the better. Any input would be appreciated.

Lilith



justinasamerk -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/16/2007 8:19:51 PM)

When a girl speaks out  of place to her Sir, he takes her right to speak away from her. She must communicate through gestures, or  simple signs. Sadly she is learning more and more ASL because she frequently says things out of turn.  Its  a good reminder to  remember to think before speaking, its a new skill  to be taught and learned, and it reminds a girl of her place that even the right to speak can be taken away. Its  not ignoring her, because she is fully aware, serving him, just not able to say anything.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/16/2007 8:25:31 PM)

I'd suggest discussing the specific context of why the action was inappropriate, giving a handful of suggestions of appropriate responses, intentionally using them in practice conversations over the next few days. 

If there must be a punishment, I'd suggest silence for a few days in appropriate contexts.



FukinTroll -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/16/2007 9:07:09 PM)

A clothespin on the tongue connected to twine with a clothespin on the other end on the clit. The twine should make the sub hold her head down to ease the tension. You should often tell her to look you in the eye when you speak to her.



juliaoceania -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/16/2007 9:20:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bbwdommelilith

I am looking for some ideas about how to punish a female sub who spoke disrespectfully to her Master. They must be active punishments (not simply withdrawal of attention), and the more sexually-oriented the better. Any input would be appreciated.

Lilith


Why reward her bad behavior by sexualizing punishment? Is there a reason for that? Perhaps in this sub's case it would not be a reward, but from what I have read one can create a pain slut SAM by giving sexual punishments... it would seem to reinforce disrespectful behavior, not curb it... perhaps I just do not get it?



AquaticSub -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/16/2007 11:25:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Why reward her bad behavior by sexualizing punishment? Is there a reason for that? Perhaps in this sub's case it would not be a reward, but from what I have read one can create a pain slut SAM by giving sexual punishments... it would seem to reinforce disrespectful behavior, not curb it... perhaps I just do not get it?


That's what I was thinking actually. The only punishments I get involving sex are my "punishments". When I speak in a manner that Valyraen finds offensive, it's off to the corner I go.



tangldupinblue -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/16/2007 11:28:41 PM)

i have to write sentences over and over and over again until my hand wants to fall off. i hate that.

blue



andreaC -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 4:03:39 AM)

In my case, if Master was to punish me for being disrespectful, first he would talk to me and trust me......that part wouldnt be too pretty and then he would tell me that he doesnt want to hear my voice.



RPutnamJr -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 4:13:13 AM)

I agree...why reward for bad behavior...sex is punishment? yeash...all that is doing is reinforcing what she seeks...thus bad behavior. If you seek to punish then you must do the opposite of what she seeks, otherwise it is not punishment.

After all how can you spank somebody as punishment if they love spankings? They'd be bad all the time just so they can be spanked and punished. You have to become creative in your punishments if you truely wish to punish. Sometimes its better to reward good behavior rather than punish bad behavior.

Thus you should cage her...liked the tongue idea...thank you for submitting it...stick her in the corner or whatever she does not like...and tell her why you are punishing her. When she exhibits proper behavior then you can reward her for being good. Just keep the reward small, otherwise you might end up in a situation of having to one up yourself the next time.



hisannabelle -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 4:43:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: bbwdommelilith

I am looking for some ideas about how to punish a female sub who spoke disrespectfully to her Master. They must be active punishments (not simply withdrawal of attention), and the more sexually-oriented the better. Any input would be appreciated.

Lilith


Why reward her bad behavior by sexualizing punishment? Is there a reason for that? Perhaps in this sub's case it would not be a reward, but from what I have read one can create a pain slut SAM by giving sexual punishments... it would seem to reinforce disrespectful behavior, not curb it... perhaps I just do not get it?


i agree fully. seems to me like ignoring her, or asking her to reevaluate why she wants to be his submissive if she feels the need to be disrespectful, or both, would be the best way to go about it.



WhiplashSmile -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 5:49:42 AM)

Here's an idea!  It's the complete opposite of chasity or the silent treatment. Force her to constantly masterbate, hands, toys whatever.. constantly for a prolong period of time.  Make that her primary focus to do as punishment.  Force to continue doing so, even right after she cums.  She must prolong the experience when she does cum as well.  Come up with something for her to repeat to herself while she is doing this.  In short make her OverDose on getting off...

Basicially it's taking chasity and turning it around doing the opposite.

You could make her suck her suck her fingers, as if doing oral, and expand masterbation to include ANAL...  Ummmm Hell make her use all the holes at the same time.. see how long she can keep that one up...






slaveofdarkhold -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 7:14:05 AM)

I think a good punishment would be sending her online and making her collect/invent a whole bunch of kinky punishment stories for you to masturbate to...



CreativeDominant -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 7:34:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bbwdommelilith

I am looking for some ideas about how to punish a female sub who spoke disrespectfully to her Master. They must be active punishments (not simply withdrawal of attention), and the more sexually-oriented the better. Any input would be appreciated.

Lilith


I am more into discipline than punishment but either way, I've never seen any good in making sex or BDSM behaviors part of the punishment/discipline.  I've read on a previous thread how spanking for punishment can be different than spanking for pain/pleasure/submission and I understand the differences but in most cases, I just prefer not to bring in anything that might be remotely pleasurable.

If she wants to exhibit a smart mouth, then perhaps duct taping that mouth for a while so she cannot speak at all and having her write out...since she is so smart...a report as to why her behavior was disrespectful, why she chose that behavior, and the possible consequences and what the ramifications of those consequences mean to her because of her choice of this particular behavior.  Depending on just how disrespectful she was and how she behaved after being told to stop could help to determine the length and depth of the report and the time period of silence.



MasterMataeo -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 7:39:53 AM)

i can think of intricate rope bondage,, "full body as like a one peice bathing suit ,,, then forced masturbation, while pleasing oraly the Master Mistress, the stripping away of any gifts/rights, ie.. the right to wear clothes around the house, the right to use the bathroom, the right to eat when they want,, in other words strip them of all dignity,, you could also force them to do any sexual act that you might find arousing ,, ie.. to full fill one of your darkest fantisies that they ahve no clue of / or have express the want not to engage in.. // but like others have mentioned ,, why would you want to reward her actions with sex,, i do find that a ST Andrews Cross and a good flogging while ball gaged does work well,, but alas ,, i also belive in knowing what types of punishment that they dont like and instilling those,, kinda like a child,, you take things away when they are bad and give them things whe they are good,,, some call it being fair and just,, others "the Just REwards"

                  Mataeo



mnottertail -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 7:41:10 AM)

Three hail mary's...a blow job, gargle with holy water, recite a novena.

Go in peace my child.

DomPerignon



Aine -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 8:56:24 AM)

*giggles*



mmsprecious -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 9:24:23 AM)

the first and immediate response from my Master when i get "a bit saucy with my verbal responses" is to place me on restriction. i do not get to pleasure myself. i also may not get to give Him pleasure. i don't like it at all!



PeggyO -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 9:28:13 AM)

Hello,

Physical exercise is always a good one.  I've deprived my submissive of the privilege of using the elevator (she lives on the 6th floor).  I myself have done countless push-ups, sit-ups and jumping jacks, sometimes in the snow, as a result of not knowing when to shut up.

Take care,

Peggy



FelinePersuasion -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 9:36:19 AM)

quite simple, spank them harder than they like with impliments they hate, perhaps while sticking something up their ass if they hate ass play. or put a pony bit in their mouth while spanking them it gets pulled on, or spank them with an electric zappper.

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ORIGINAL: RPutnamJr



After all how can you spank somebody as punishment if they love spankings?



MasterMataeo -> RE: penance ideas for smartass f sub (2/17/2007 9:56:17 AM)

you dont  ,, you starve them of what they enjoy,, hence a punishment in itsself,, you take away what they like



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