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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 2:43:42 PM   
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Jersey i do have sympathy for you, its not as easy to deal with as some people make out, everythings easy in hindsight but sometimes we ALL let ourselves open and certain people take advantage and not always on purpose, some people out there need a firm NO in their life or they will keep borrowing and asking for stuff and soon enough someone trusting and decent like you comes along, dont you dare blame yourself and dont stop trusting but perhaps next time someone asks you a question relating or even hinting at money atleast give yourself time to think about it or ask a close friend, i've learned that you can always say no at first then give yourself time.

It's abit like a salesperson trying to persuade you to buy, even if it sounds wonderful atleast give yourself time to cool off. Not everyone out there is a user, some cant help it and those who cant understand why you did what you did will be of no help to you. Being as you are a fan of my Ass you can ALWAYS speak to me about this kinda thing.   

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 2:51:59 PM   
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krissi, I notice that person is not around anymore.

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 2:52:22 PM   
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Right.. This should NEVER have been posted.

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 2:55:06 PM   
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I reckon you've pulled up a chair and you can't wait for it all to unfold......

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 2:55:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cuddleheart50

krissi, I notice that person is not around anymore.


I am not going anywhere.. Because I did nothing wrong. I am sorry Krissi feels that I did. I am sorry she got hurt, but I made no commitment to her, and I even tried to talk her out of sending any money at all. I wish I had not agreed to accept it at all now. That was my only mistake. If I truly had not needed the medications (I had even planned to stop taking the medications but Krissi would not hear it, she was upset that I would consider it - they are my diabetes and blood pressure meds), I would be trying to send it back, but she refused.



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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 3:08:54 PM   
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I wish I could post! I wish I could post! (Domiguy shakes fingers at the screen like magician)  I wish I could post.

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 3:11:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

I reckon you've pulled up a chair and you can't wait for it all to unfold......

You reckon incorrectly, pardner.

Krissi's trainwreck of a life holds no fascination for me.  I'm just killing time waiting for a maintenance window so I can upgrade some router firmware.

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 3:15:00 PM   
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Sounds like the author of Black Velvet (Lie) Seductions seduced another one. Playing someone's heart/intentions/or self perception is never an honorable journey. As they say; the streets of hell are paved with good intentions...however in many cases the intentions are self serving and have manipulation hidden within their messages. Smooth talk and warm seductive assurances are a form of mind control and manipulation. Let all buyers beware.

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 3:15:53 PM   
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domiguy... waiting approval... what does that mean?

Back on topic...

Wow, I sincerely feel for you both, this sounds like a lot of hurt feelings and misunderstandings... it can be hard to deal with these emotions.

Well, I just want to say do not let these kinds of things harden your heart to others. It can be too easy to become jaded and put up walls, and not let others in your life again. I've been there, done that. I live with my heart and emotions out in front of me, to feel everything, good and bad.

I hope you two can resolve this, in private, and remain friends.

Best of luck to you both, you two are some of my many favorite CM posters here.

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 3:27:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlindDescent

Sounds like the author of Black Velvet (Lie) Seductions seduced another one. Playing someone's heart/intentions/or self perception is never an honorable journey. As they say; the streets of hell are paved with good intentions...however in many cases the intentions are self serving and have manipulation hidden within their messages. Smooth talk and warm seductive assurances are a form of mind control and manipulation. Let all buyers beware.


I am an author FROM Black Velvet Seductions.. not of it.. that is no lie.. and I seduced no one..
Nor, did I try to play anything, her self perceptions were low, being used by someone as dirt... is there anything wrong it telling someone they are worth more than that. Yet telling them you are a friend. She feels I lied, I understand that, it is easy to get the misconception. As far as checking out whether I am an author or not, do the search yourself. Search my name Robert Cloud, and the first two words of my first novel Toy's Story, and find out for yourself.

Now, I do not lie, I will not lie, if she was mislead, it was by her desires, and her dreams, I kept telling her I did not know where things would go, for I did not know. Yet, I also told her it had to stay platonic, and she kept understanding saying that there was no problem that their would be no sex. So... I am truly sorry she got hurt... I wanted to remain her friend, and I still would love for her to come visit. If she would admit some of the things she failed to mention. Like I did try to refuse her money and she insisted, like I did say from the very beginning that it was just friends, and that I had told her before a few days ago that there were others and she had tried to back out but I told her then that there was no reason. No commitment had been made at that time, which was true, I also told her I did not know when a commitment might be made.

This thread is going to become a bashing party and I do not care... but I will not let my honor be besmirched because at this point it is going into slander and libel. You have no proof and unless you do, be wary of what you say. This should never have gone public at all, I still say that.

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 3:32:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JerseyKrissi72

...Ladies, don't be as stupid as me..when your intuition tells you something doesn't sound right...it's almost always right...
Wow.
i hope, for your sake, your experience with this one leads to you following your own advice.
And, by all means, take my share too please... i'm all set. Good luck to you , regardless... better luck with the next one..

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 3:38:09 PM   
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Wow!  So much for another boring Saturday night.  High, high drama!

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 3:41:50 PM   
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 This is a general statement not intended specifically for RC. (And yes there are at least 3 sides to every story) It's hard to understand why someone doesn't withdraw from an impending disaster. When we see someone getting in deeper than we had originally expected (too soon or not); why is it so hard for some of us(regardless of lifestyle genre) to sayWhoa!
I have been guilty of it as well.What begins as flirtation and getting comfortable with another's emotions gets deeper fast. In this realm we pin the purity of ideals on the abstract murk of emotion and perception. Perhaps incremental 'report cards' of  depth might be a prudent consideration?  No one is perfect 100% of the time. Let us hope that as lessons are taught' they are also learned and then integrated. And as we all know; words are simply expressions...behavior is the key to it all.

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 3:54:47 PM   
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First of all I never mentioned your name so if you feel bad about me posting this than you must have something to feel bad about...I am glad that I found out about you before I made the mistake of coming all the way out there... I am better person for it and thankyou for opening my eyes. I do realize I am way too good for you.

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 3:58:46 PM   
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It would appear that da'foot has stepped in da'poo.
 
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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 3:59:35 PM   
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Krissi, dumb move. Learn or don't, that's up to you and for Christ's sake, take the fucking money back and chalk up the other $300 to being foolish.

Robert, damn, just damn. You really tried to talk her out of it?  How did she know where to send it? Who gave her the information? Wasn't that you? Did you try to talk her out of sending it before or after you gave her the information on 'how' to send it to you? When you got to the place it was wired, did you refuse it and send it back? Did you do one damn thing to take some responsibility for that money other than take it and spend it?

Send it back. If she cashes the check, she cashes it, if she doesn't, she doesn't. You want your honor, buddy, pay for it because reading this he said/she said, she comes off as foolish, but you, my friend, hardly look like a saint in all this.

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 4:02:19 PM   
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What hurts the most is that he told me prior to me sending the money that I had a chance with him.....I sent it not to win his heart, but to make sure his blood sugar was in check as I am a sufferer of type 2 diabetes myself and I know how that feels...After he got the money in his pocket suddenly I didn't have a chance anymore....does that seem a  bit coincidence?

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 4:02:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

I reckon you've pulled up a chair and you can't wait for it all to unfold......

You reckon incorrectly, pardner.

Krissi's trainwreck of a life holds no fascination for me.  I'm just killing time waiting for a maintenance window so I can upgrade some router firmware.

~stef


Can't argue with that.

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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 4:03:53 PM   
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This is the proof that this should not be in a public forum...

Krissi is using this as a personal attack at me because she was hurt. I told her that I should have known better than to take her money when she told me that it was what frieds did for friends because now it is obvious that she was trying to buy my heart. Her response to me was: "i wasn't trying to buy your heart because you don't have one and now everyone knows what you are about"

No... This is still a personal issue between Krissi and I and should not be in a public forum. Krissi taking it public was immature. It had nothing to do with her being scammed or seduced. It had to do with the fact that we were talking and trying to see if there was something and she knew I was talking to others and she was still planning to come see me. She sent me the money supposedly because friends help friends and yes, I was in a situation I needed the help. But I would have and could have done without it, she refused to accept no for an answer. Then after she cancelled her reservations she refused to accept me paying her back. THAT IS NOT A SCAM.

Nor is that a seduction, that is simply how the situation unfolded and I am sorry Krissi got hurt. I truly am, but to behave in this manner and bring it public is still immature. It should have been handled privately.


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RE: A Warning To The Ladies - 2/17/2007 4:03:54 PM   
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Wow, Krissi, I don't really think he wanted your money for prescription medication.  

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