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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 8:06:16 AM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I should talk about it with my Daddy (he did ask me, but then we sort of forgot about it, and got on to other topics). I do kow he isn't the type of Daddy, julia (as yours is not either) who would force me into doing this kind of thing if I was against it. I just don't think he would. Thank God. Because, as puella, you, Ex-Steel and others have pointed out, it can have lasting effects on the primary relationship.

Another thing some haven't really focussed on is - what if the females end up falling in love with eachother and the Dominant is left out in the cold? I can picture that happening, too.

- Susan 


My friend, she told me when they were searching for other couples she was constantly dismissing some of them because the women were more into her than they were in the idea of her Dom. They were highly bisexual and she said they would try to form attachments to her. She was more interested in giving him a certain experience that they could share together. It was not about women for her. Now in the swinging lifestyle they have a few categories to label bisexuality so people are on the same wavelength. Totally bisexual as in romantic attachments to both sexes, bicurious which is bisexual for the pleasure of the man, and bisocial, which is light touching.

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 8:06:49 AM   
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We have different definitions of bisexual then julia.  My defintion of bisexual means being with someone of the same sex, period.
This is not a gray area.  I don't care whether you have a romantic relationship or you meet in the bath house for 3 minutes.
Sex with your same sex and the opposite sex makes you bisexual.  Why do people change terminology to fit there needs?
When did the definition of bisexual become confusing?



Under the medical definition you do not even have to enjoy the sexual activity to be bisexual

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Bisexual: An individual who engages in both heterosexual and homosexual sexual relations. Bisexual can also refer to the corresponding lifestyle. See: MSM and WSW.
In physical biology, the term "bisexual" refers to an individual who was born with gonadal tissue of both sexes (that, both testicular and ovarian tissue). Also termed a true hermaphrodite.

 
I am referring to a lifestyle definition more than a medical one


julia? you can think whatever you want lifestyle, medical, group.  In most of society if you engage in sex with both
sexes willingly you are bisexual.  I am firm about this because, I run into too many men
that play with men and women and don't consider themselves bisexual. If my child tells me he is having sex with men
and women, I would consider him bisexual. If he only has sex with men he is gay.  I am not confused at all about this.
We can agree to disagree on this.

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 8:08:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		juliaoceania: That sounds like a very intelligent way to handle it. I am pretty sure I am not bi-sexual (not that it matters, but it might to my Dominant) - but any time I imagine myself with a female Domme, my focus is on the feeling of being totally dominated and humiliated - and almost not at all on any physical attraction to the female (although these imagined scenes definitely involve physical interaction, and of quite an intense nature). 

I am just not totally turned off by the idea of being with a female (but would prefer it be a Domme female). I'd do it, I think, but a lot more for the emotional rewards I'd anticipate from feeling dominated, not simply to be with a Domme female, per se, because I dig her body, or something. I do think the emotional connection for me with a Domme female would be different (and rewarding) as is being submissive with a male Dominant (which I also find very rewarding).

- Susan

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 8:10:40 AM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		You can be firm all the way down into the seat of your soul, it does not change the way I am going to refer to it.  Your definition is not specific enough for my purposes in describing what I am trying to describe. Not all bisexual experiences are the same, and there is nothing wrong with creating ways of talking about it that differentiate the activities into categories. I have read your opinions, nice to know, but I am still going to talk about it the way I please... thank you for sharing

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 8:12:13 AM   
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We can agree to disagree.  :)

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 8:21:59 AM   
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This is how I view it also"bisexual"when you are open to or enjoy sex with both genders then you  \bisexual ...NOW how got someone doming the other is a mystery to me...BH


I think the crux of it is in enjoying it... doing it for someone else's pleasure probably would not allow for one to categorize themself as bisexual, by that definition, I would think.

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 11:03:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think all of you women need to stop debating about the "whys" or whether you consider yourselves to be bi or not....and just start posting those pics with your faces smiling and  looking like a glazed donut....aaauuughmmmmm...donuts!

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 11:05:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO


I have to say, though, that whenever I've imagined myself in this sort of scenario, it's been with a female Domme who is either lesbian or bi-sexual, never with another female submissive.


- Susan   


Isn't that interesting? The idea of another woman dominating me makes me fantasize about knocking her teeth out. I am repulsed by the thought of a woman dominating me. I do not know why that is so, but the thought is disturbing to me.

When I have contemplated doing this it has been more of a vanilla experience in my head, with power being exchanged with my Daddy in a very sublime way undetected by the third. I have no desire for another submissive around sexually either. That is the way it has played out in my head when thinking what I could or would do. Funny how people feel differently about such things.


Yeah, it really is funny, lol. The thought of me pleasing another woman at my owner's demand really doesn't do that much for me. It doesn't repulse me, but it doesn't turn me on, either. On the other... I have fantasized about him dominating another female, forcing me to watch.
 
Human sexuality is so wonderfully complex and nifty, isn't it? ;)
 
 
Stella
 

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 12:17:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will agree with this wholeheartedly, bisexual is one thing, lesbian or homosexual (why they gotta have two different words for it) another, to do it as a matter of pleasure in a distaff sort of way, and to absolutely be repulsed another...........

What only needs to be determined is where on the sliding scale anyone person lies, (and this is important) at any one time and in any one relationship.


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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 12:33:48 PM   
puella


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Status: offline 		.... At one point in the Barber of Seville is that said, and by whom?  Dr. Bartolo?

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 1:07:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I had a dom who ordered me to perform a bisexual act, I would tell him no. If he tried to force the issue, I would no longer be his sub. To me, anyone who performs a bisexual act, even if ordered to, has bisexual tendencies. People claim to be straight and say since they were "forced" to do it, it doesn't count. Since BDSM is consentual, how can that be?

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 1:09:54 PM   
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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 1:14:46 PM   
mnottertail


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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 1:16:46 PM   
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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 1:20:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to disagree with "or else". A sub always has the option to leave if he/she not bisexual. What creeps me out is the fact that people who have done this call themselves straight. Some of us women don't want a man who has ever sucked another man's cock for any reason.

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 1:28:25 PM   
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I have to disagree with "or else". A sub always has the option to leave if he/she not bisexual. What creeps me out is the fact that people who have done this call themselves straight. Some of us women don't want a man who has ever sucked another man's cock for any reason.


I realize from reading your responses to other threads that you tend to see things in a very black and white light.  If that works for you, then more power to you. 

But for a different perspective, you may want to take a jaunt over to the Shape of Submission thread and read Puella's response to Sly. 

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 1:29:33 PM   
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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 1:33:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I have to disagree with "or else". A sub always has the option to leave if he/she not bisexual. What creeps me out is the fact that people who have done this call themselves straight. Some of us women don't want a man who has ever sucked another man's cock for any reason.


I realize from reading your responses to other threads that you tend to see things in a very black and white light.  If that works for you, then more power to you. 

But for a different perspective, you may want to take a jaunt over to the Shape of Submission thread and read Puella's response to Sly. 



I am also a fairly black and white thinker.  Aren't we allowed to exist in the community?  I know we may not be the majority,
but some of us don't see as many shades of gray.  I talk to men all the time on here that believe in that "forced bisexual" agenda.
I just don't buy it, I have met straight men and it is a hard limit for them.  Limits are created for a reason, and hard limits should not
be crossed.  Now, if it is NOT a limit, then that is something else.

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 1:39:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Everyone sees a few things in black and white. That doesn't mean they see everything in black and white. I have two female friends who are bi. I just don't want to be more than friends with anyone who is bi. Unfortunately, it's difficult to find a male sub who has never performed a bisexual act.

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RE: Dominant Asking For Submissive to Be BiSexual - 2/18/2007 1:41:47 PM   
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