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swtnsparkling -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 2:31:26 AM)

Good lordI got home from work yesterday and thought I'd sign on for an hour or so and catch up on some threads. This was the 1st one I came too. After spending the whole time catching up to page 37 I had  enough - didn't even read any others and singed off. This morning it is now Page  47    I am almost afraid to see what page it will be after work today LOL

wow- I just started page 48




swtnsparkling -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 2:33:29 AM)

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duckykarma
ROTFLMAO good lord what istn a hard limit for this lady?


Are you kidding me?  Her Hard limits is a teeny list compared to mikeys




swtnsparkling -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 2:34:44 AM)

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michaelOfGeorgia
it's MEN (bi, gay or straight) i hate.

This is so freaking bizarre to me.

I'm female- I don't hate all females
Your male- and yet you Hate all males?
Hate Your dad?
No sports player No Male actor
Male friends-    Hate them all?

I think you are so adamant about Hateing men - all men b/c you really are gay
and cant bring yourself to admit it- You totaly freak out about it and I bet when we tease you- you cry.
deny deny deny Just keep saying  I Hate all Men I Hate all Men I Hate all Men  LOL




swtnsparkling -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 2:41:33 AM)

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hisannabelle
and face slapping = abuse in her world


That and anyone who would let it happen to them or likes it has no
Dignity




MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 4:19:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

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michaelOfGeorgia
it's MEN (bi, gay or straight) i hate.

This is so freaking bizarre to me.

I'm female- I don't hate all females
Your male- and yet you Hate all males?
Hate Your dad?
No sports player No Male actor
Male friends-    Hate them all?

I think you are so adamant about Hateing men - all men b/c you really are gay
and cant bring yourself to admit it- You totaly freak out about it and I bet when we tease you- you cry.
deny deny deny Just keep saying  I Hate all Men I Hate all Men I Hate all Men  LOL


Asking Michael to be logical would be like asking him to  spend less time on the computer.




MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 4:23:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: needdiscipline23

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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

Well I suppose tea doesn't much compare to rum.


True, but tea does sound nice! Got any earl grey, Ma'am?




Need something a little more brisk this morning....sticking to columbian.




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 4:46:03 AM)

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This is so freaking bizarre to me.

Your male- and yet you Hate all males? Yes
Hate Your dad? My dad beat me all during my childhood, regardless of who did what, i was the first to be blamed. (i have 1 younger sister, one older brother and two younger brothers)
No sports player No Male actor i absolutly dispise sports, my old man used to take days off from work and watch that crap on TV after i had picked something else on TV a week or two in advance. i hated him for it.
Male friends- Hate them all?
i have no male friends.




KatyLied -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 4:53:52 AM)

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i have no male friends.


And we know with certainty why that is.
You hate men.  We understand why.
Do you?




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 4:58:02 AM)

because i just don't like them




porthuronsub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 4:58:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

i have no male friends.


SOOOOOOOOO, have you sought out counseling yet? 




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 4:59:13 AM)

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SOOOOOOOOO, have you sought out counseling yet?


what for?




porthuronsub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 5:05:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

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SOOOOOOOOO, have you sought out counseling yet?


what for?



*Doctors Office Open*

For your obvious issues,  are you repressing thoughts about something that happened to you as a child?  Are these repressed feelings now being manifested as a hatred for the same gender that injured you as a child?




findmedaddy -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 5:30:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: porthuronsub

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

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ORIGINAL: needdiscipline23

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

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ORIGINAL: findmedaddy

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

The only thing left to argue about is politics.


OP a Bush fan, maybe?



Not really. I'm pretty liberal in most of my views, however, I would vote for any presidential canidate who wants to put an end to off-shoring and outsourcing. I have nothing against the idea of mexican immigration, but the combination of outsourcing, off-shoring, and immigration is wrecking the # of decent paying jobs available in the US. 


According to YOU. I mean, why don't you get that dbg world is not the one that we all choose to live in??  You just toss out your opinion as though it is a fact worth basing our lives and profiles on.




Do you mean to tell me that all those IT workers and auto manufacturers still make the same kind of money they did before the off-shoring and outsourcing took away their jobs? I wouldn't say according to me. I would say according to them.


I live in michigan and I wouldn't say outsourcing killed the automakers.  Maybe the suppliers to them, but the big three are still located in Michigan.  They just made alot of mistakes thinking they didn't have any worldwide competition, turns out Toyota and Honda can make decent cars.  They found out too late and have been struggling ever since to turn it around.  That is what arrogance in business gets you.
I don't have any problem with Mexican immigration, but damn it if they are going to work here then they should become American, and pay taxes to support the government that treats them so well.


Uh, they do pay taxes, they just don't get any of the benefits of the taxes they pay.




mnottertail -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 6:12:40 AM)

Was it a Bass Ale?

get it in your profile, you just ran into someones hard limit somewhere..

Ron




porthuronsub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 6:22:41 AM)

Since when do the illegal immigrants that are working for cash pay taxes?  Are they set up in the social security system.  Do they pay toward social security?  They don't pay taxes, if they did they wouldn't be able to pick beans for 5-6 dollars an hour.  That is why the American public don't take those jobs.  If we did and got paid 5-6 dollars an hour then paid taxes and social security out of it it would be the equivalent of around 3.50 -4 dollars an hour.  they are strapping our system by getting free food assistance, they qualify for section 8 housing and subsidized rent, they qualify for free health care, their children get free breakfast and lunches at school, they require bi-lingual teachers and text books, they qualify for relief from high energy bills, if they become disabled they qualify for SSI even theough they never paid into it. There are other ways they make demands on our system, so that you may not even think of such as having to have bi-lingual police officers and signs which all cost money. 




viperess -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 6:28:55 AM)

Holy hell batman...er batgirl...hell can't remember who hates guys and who hates girls or is it girls who hate..oh never mind..Here i sit down with my morning coffee trying to wake up and dang if this thing is not up to 48 pages now. Ans she still don't get it buckwheat....*sighs*




findmedaddy -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 6:44:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: porthuronsub

Since when do the illegal immigrants that are working for cash pay taxes?  Are they set up in the social security system.  Do they pay toward social security?  They don't pay taxes, if they did they wouldn't be able to pick beans for 5-6 dollars an hour.  That is why the American public don't take those jobs.  If we did and got paid 5-6 dollars an hour then paid taxes and social security out of it it would be the equivalent of around 3.50 -4 dollars an hour.  they are strapping our system by getting free food assistance, they qualify for section 8 housing and subsidized rent, they qualify for free health care, their children get free breakfast and lunches at school, they require bi-lingual teachers and text books, they qualify for relief from high energy bills, if they become disabled they qualify for SSI even theough they never paid into it. There are other ways they make demands on our system, so that you may not even think of such as having to have bi-lingual police officers and signs which all cost money. 


Yeah, as a matter of fact they do pay into the system. See the following messages from me.




findmedaddy -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 6:49:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: porthuronsub

Since when do the illegal immigrants that are working for cash pay taxes?  Are they set up in the social security system.  Do they pay toward social security?  They don't pay taxes, if they did they wouldn't be able to pick beans for 5-6 dollars an hour.  That is why the American public don't take those jobs.  If we did and got paid 5-6 dollars an hour then paid taxes and social security out of it it would be the equivalent of around 3.50 -4 dollars an hour.  they are strapping our system by getting free food assistance, they qualify for section 8 housing and subsidized rent, they qualify for free health care, their children get free breakfast and lunches at school, they require bi-lingual teachers and text books, they qualify for relief from high energy bills, if they become disabled they qualify for SSI even theough they never paid into it. There are other ways they make demands on our system, so that you may not even think of such as having to have bi-lingual police officers and signs which all cost money. 


FYI: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/business/05immigration.html?ei=5090&en=78c87ac4641dc383&ex=1270353600&pagewanted=all&position=

Article lead:

[image]http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/dropcap/s.gif[/image]TOCKTON, Calif. - Since illegally crossing the Mexican border into the United States six years ago, Ángel Martínez has done backbreaking work, harvesting asparagus, pruning grapevines and picking the ripe fruit. More recently, he has also washed trucks, often working as much as 70 hours a week, earning $8.50 to $12.75 an hour. Not surprisingly, Mr. Martínez, 28, has not given much thought to Social Security's long-term financial problems. But Mr. Martínez - who comes from the state of Oaxaca in southern Mexico and hiked for two days through the desert to enter the United States near Tecate, some 20 miles east of Tijuana - contributes more than most Americans to the solvency of the nation's public retirement system. Last year, Mr. Martínez paid about $2,000 toward Social Security and $450 for Medicare through payroll taxes withheld from his wages. Yet unlike most Americans, who will receive some form of a public pension in retirement and will be eligible for Medicare as soon as they turn 65, Mr. Martínez is not entitled to benefits.

There are lots more articles like this, just FYI.





findmedaddy -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 6:50:50 AM)

And--

Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service
May 1, 2006 Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think
Eight million illegals pay Social Security, Medicare, and income taxes
By Shikha Dalmia
Denying public services to people who pay their taxes is an affront to America's bedrock belief in fairness. But many "pull-up-the-drawbridge" politicians want to do just that when it comes to illegal immigrants. The fact that illegal immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two-thirds of illegal immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes. Yet, nativists like Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., have popularized the notion that illegal aliens are a colossal drain on the nation's hospitals, schools and welfare programs — consuming services that they don't pay for. In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified illegal immigrants from nearly all means-tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization. The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education.....

http://www.reason.org/commentaries/dalmia_20060501.shtml





sensualmagirl -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/21/2007 7:13:38 AM)

~fast reply~

You know you've spent too much time here when you think about this thread as you are walking to work... lol

I was thinking, by dbg's theory (that being have sex once with same sex = bisexual), that not only am I bisexual because I've had sex with a woman, but even though I was raised Catholic and born in Boston, according to her deduction, I am also a Muslim and Jewish as well as an immigrant from some south american countries and the mediterranean because these are the kinds of people with whom I've had/have sexual relationships (I don't do one night stands, so, can't even say it was "one time")

Not that I would complain mind you... I have absolutely no issue with being a bisexual Muslim from south america... besides, much more interesting than being associated with narrow minded people.  Don't you think?

Can I get my multi-national citizenship pass now please? [;)]

LOL




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