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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:51:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

If you have no desire to have relations with another woman, why would you go against your own sexual orientation just to please someone else? If I had a fettish for watching two men go at it (which I don't) I would find a bisexual sub. I would be worried that expecting someone to go against their sexual orientation would cause severe psychological damage.


Because some people do things to make their dominants happy regardless of it makes them happy. It's called submission and everyone does in different ways. They don't mind repressing (ok not the best word but I can't think of a better one) their sexual needs and desires to make their dominant happy.

Different, not better, but still deserving of respect.

Edited - well, everyone who is a sub anyway!

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 2/21/2007 11:54:05 PM >

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:52:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Don't despair darlin. I'll console you and keep you safe! *weg*


*giggles* I'm under instruction to tell you that you may BBQ him after you engage him in a duel. And that he will sic his herd of dinosaurs on you.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:54:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh slurp! I love dinosaurs. What duel would he like? I am game for all!

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:55:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I would be worried that expecting someone to go against their sexual orientation would cause severe psychological damage.


ANd that is the crux of the issue. if someone was forced to do it, than maybe it could. But assume that most that do it, are doing it of their own free will, this is one "limit" that doesn't stand in the way of their service, submission or adoration of their Dom. Butler isn't gay, nor bi but if I asked he'd go down on Daddy in a heart beat if I wished. There is a difference, as we all know, between wanting to do something and not minding when having to do something you may not want to do naturally. For some people homosexual acts just aren't that hard a limit.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:56:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I shall relay his response as he is currently watching Jurassic Park.

He says "Katanas on the beach at dawn"

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:57:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

If you have no desire to have relations with another woman, why would you go against your own sexual orientation just to please someone else?

Because the desire to please the Dominant/Owner is more
important.

If I had a fettish for watching two men go at it (which I don't) I would find a bisexual sub.

The spectrum from completely hetero to completely homo is
wide.  Many Dominants will force a submissive/slave to have
same sex behavior for humiliation or simply because they
find pleasure in it.


I would be worried that expecting someone to go against their sexual orientation would cause severe psychological damage.


The relationship between a Dominant and a sub/slave has to be
negotiated and agreed upon by both parties.  Safe Sane and
Consensual.  The sub/slave has the right to have hard limits.
They have the right to say no and walk away from the situation
and the Dominant.


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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:58:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

If you have no desire to have relations with another woman, why would you go against your own sexual orientation just to please someone else? If I had a fettish for watching two men go at it (which I don't) I would find a bisexual sub. I would be worried that expecting someone to go against their sexual orientation would cause severe psychological damage.


everything we do someone somewhere accuses us of causing psychological damage.  IMHO, it means even more that she is doing it to please her dominant and for no other reason.  That is an act of true submission, because other than pleasing her dom, there is nothing in it for her.....

edited to add:  I am going to bed, I actually have to go in the office in the morning for the first time this week, so will pick it up where it left off, IF it is still going, in the am. For my comments however, I think I have said the same thing as many ways as I can say it, so don't think I will have much more input, but I know, like any good trainwreck, I will probably watch it till the bitter end.

< Message edited by kc692 -- 2/22/2007 12:00:49 AM >

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:58:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I shall relay his response as he is currently watching Jurassic Park.

He says "Katanas on the beach at dawn"


Well crap. I may not make it by dawn. I am a Gemini and have a lot of katana's to choose from.

Wait... Ven which one should I bring?

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:59:08 PM   
defiantbadgirl


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Status: offline 		I could never live with myself if I did that to someone. In my opinion, that's crossing the line, although many dommes are of a different opinion......to each their own.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 12:00:08 AM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Hell Aquatic,
 
Between your boobs and red hair and my boobs and red hair -
The censors would never let the show on the air! 

 
Signed,
 
A feisty, stubborn, opinionated, passionate Domme!  
 




Put some wine in me and they may not even be able to tape it!

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 12:01:17 AM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I could never live with myself if I did that to someone. In my opinion, that's crossing the line, although many dommes are of a different opinion......to each their own.


Which is why we feel you shouldn't call their subs liars when they say they are straight.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 12:02:22 AM   
Vendaval


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quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
*giggles* I'm under instruction to tell you that you may BBQ him after you engage him in a duel. And that he will sic his herd of dinosaurs on you.


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So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 12:03:28 AM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Well crap. I may not make it by dawn. I am a Gemini and have a lot of katana's to choose from.

Wait... Ven which one should I bring?


Oooo.... that could be a problem. He's turned into quite the early riser. *considers* You might be able to negotiate for the afternoon though. I'm sure that an agreement can be reached, through patience and understand. And then there shall be dueling?


Wait... should I make food for the duel? Is BBQ an acceptable dueling food or should I go for something more formal?

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 12:04:48 AM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Yes, but are they purple dinosaurs!? 


quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
*giggles* I'm under instruction to tell you that you may BBQ him after you engage him in a duel. And that he will sic his herd of dinosaurs on you.



I suspect not. Unless he's been drinking...

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 12:05:04 AM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		The biggest and the baddest, Captain, just like.... 
"I shall fear no evil, because I am the biggest and baddest mofo in the valley!"

quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Well crap. I may not make it by dawn. I am a Gemini and have a lot of katana's to choose from.

Wait... Ven which one should I bring?


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So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 12:05:47 AM   
FukinTroll


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Status: offline 		We are eating the looser you silly Strumpet! And pushing all your hard limits!

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 12:06:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess I just have problems understanding how someone could do that to themselves. If I was forced non-consentually to have relations with a woman, I'd permanently flip my lid........I'd be in a padded cell seeing pink elephants.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 12:06:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

The biggest and the baddest, Captain, just like.... 
"I shall fear no evil, because I am the biggest and baddest mofo in the valley!"

quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Well crap. I may not make it by dawn. I am a Gemini and have a lot of katana's to choose from.

Wait... Ven which one should I bring?



I was thinking the Gold one... but the claymore will do.... hey... he said Katan's. Your not friggen helping.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 12:07:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I guess I just have problems understanding how someone could do that to themselves. If I was forced non-consentually to have relations with a woman, I'd permanently flip my lid........I'd be in a padded cell seeing pink elephants.


Thats why people have hard limits and say no. What you are preaching to the masses is hate.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 12:09:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		It isn't non consentual....If they were on their own, they would never do it, but they CONSENT to do it to make their dom/me happy.

And with that I'm off to bed

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