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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 11:51:49 AM   
mnottertail


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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 11:54:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

*raises a hand*

I have a question. Why is the living room this roommates room?

I could see a lot of this being dealt with simply by giving him his own bedroom.

Or better yet, he moves out and you move in. I mean, if you are 24/7 all ready, that would say you traveling and paying for another place.

Tom has his desk and his space in our house -- it is not my or my slave's responsiblity to clean it and we all chip in on doing the housework. However, these spaces that my rather messy husband has are not in public view.


He lives in the living room because it's a small house and he didn't pay rent for about a year and ahalf so Master wasn't going to give him his own room, my bedroom is upstairs in the attic apartment (which I only use to store my stuff, I sleep at the foot of Masrer's bed most of the time) I have sugjested to Master that the roommate move in up stairs, but Master wants me to have my own space.

Shylah



Perhaps you have to explain things a bit more to your master about the living room and guests and the issue of keeping the place clean. Then frankly it is up to your master to deal with the roommate.

It is up to you to deal with your assigned duties -- unless you really like you want more, I wouldn't do more. I suspect this is probably hard.

Sometimes Fox starts to do Tom's chores and I stop him. Why? Tom is an adult who is supposed to be my equal partner in this family, Fox is not his slave, he's mine so Fox helps me with my side of the chores. Tom can get his own slave if he wants one or hire a maid to do his share. But Fox says that he knows having things out of place bugs me and isn't it his job to make my life easier? I point out that if something happens to Fox his doing Tom's share has trained Tom to not do his share and this my work load would increase.

Aside from the family aspect, what I'm trying to say is that I can imagine that you feel really disconcerted or even upset by the mess you see. Sadly how you can deal with it really depends on what your negotiated dynamic is with your master. If you are supposed to deal with this all, then I second BitaTruble and say hire a maid and charge the roommate. Either he'll start cleaning up or he'll pay for the maid -- either ways things get easier for you, right?

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 11:55:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

If it is not your house leave the guy alone. Who are you to tell someone how to live their life. If the guy is a slob so be it. It is not your place to change him. When you are there it is your duty to focus on your Master. You are getting sidetracked by someone else. Learn to focus.


My  Master wants a clean house, including the living room where the roommate lives.
It is my busness to try to get him to change this behavior becaus my master has said "get hin to clean his room"

The roommate doesn't pay the bill anymore then I do... his rent sometimes buys food, but so do I so as far as having a right to bitch at him about it I feel that I have full right.

Plus I live in this house too, I don't like looking at the mess that I can't do anything about every fucking day.

I have a right to live in a clean house and so does Master.

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 11:59:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

If it is not your house leave the guy alone. Who are you to tell someone how to live their life. If the guy is a slob so be it. It is not your place to change him. When you are there it is your duty to focus on your Master. You are getting sidetracked by someone else. Learn to focus.


My Master wants a clean house, including the living room where the roommate lives.
It is my busness to try to get him to change this behavior becaus my master has said "get hin to clean his room"

The roommate doesn't pay the bill anymore then I do... his rent sometimes buys food, but so do I so as far as having a right to bitch at him about it I feel that I have full right.

Plus I live in this house too, I don't like looking at the mess that I can't do anything about every fucking day.

I have a right to live in a clean house and so does Master.

Shylah





Oh, now this is new information.

If your master has told you to get this guy to clean up, then you need to get into top mode and do it. Think of this roommate as beneath you in the household's hierarchy. Don't ask him to clean up, tell him to clean up. Stand there and watch him, get a spray bottle of water and spray when he slacks, be the top with him.

Or maybe that's just how I would handle it or expect my own slave to handle things in a similar situation.

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 12:02:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl
It is my busness to try to get him to change this behavior becaus my master has said "get hin to clean his room"

I'd tell your master that getting another full grown adult to do something when you are
a) not his mother
b) not his friend
c) hold no legitimate authority over his living space whatsoever

is a ridiculous task.  Since he can't order you to become his mother or friend, he could allow you give the roommate a new lease agreement outlining responsibilities which need to be followed or eviction will be forthcoming.

Otherwise, the order itself is empty and ridiculous for you to have.

And that if he moved the layabout to his own space, you could at least keep the mess completely contained and be able to take care of the social areas as necessary.

I think Bita's idea of hiring cleaning and making him pay for it is awesome also.

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 12:02:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds like your master is afraid to actually do anything about this problem with his roommate/businesspartner and is passing the buck.

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 12:24:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Stop cooking. Tell your master you see  no reason to cook when there are no clean plates to eat on. Clean your own room. Buy a screen to close off the living room from public view.  Your problem is that his mess is visible, hang curtains or a screen so it isn't visible. If he leaves the bathroom a mess, don't clean it and tell your master that this is at his orders for you not to clean up after the slob.

Moreover, save your money and move out. Let your master deal with his own problems, they are his problems and not yours.

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 1:04:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

If it is not your house leave the guy alone. Who are you to tell someone how to live their life. If the guy is a slob so be it. It is not your place to change him. When you are there it is your duty to focus on your Master. You are getting sidetracked by someone else. Learn to focus.


My  Master wants a clean house, including the living room where the roommate lives.
It is my busness to try to get him to change this behavior becaus my master has said "get hin to clean his room"

The roommate doesn't pay the bill anymore then I do... his rent sometimes buys food, but so do I so as far as having a right to bitch at him about it I feel that I have full right.

Plus I live in this house too, I don't like looking at the mess that I can't do anything about every fucking day.

I have a right to live in a clean house and so does Master.

Shylah





I do sympathsize with your situation. My own thoughts is even though you moved in after the room mate, your needs and wants should be taken into consideration more. Even though the room mate is a friend and business partner of your Master's, you are your Master's cherished property. I would think that a Master would be more proactive to ensure His cherished possesion is happy and not become resentful. From what you've been posting here, I don't believe your Master wants you to become so frustrated by this living situation and it causes you to resent the room mate and your Master.
I do wonder if you do your best to avoid cleaning up after the room  mate and let his mess build up, then maybe your Master will finally see how much of a slob the room mate is. You are still obeying your Master by serving Him and rememeber, you said your Master did not want you to serve the room  mate

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 1:09:29 PM   
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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 1:11:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl

In responce to people thinking that Master isn't doing anything about this... He has threatened to kick the roommate out sevral times. For his messy room.

The rommate takes care of the mess for about a week then it just gose back to how it was before.



This roommate has proven his unreliability and his slovenly manner. He keeps doing what he's doing because he knows there are no consequences for his actions (inaction, in this instance). ~shrug~ Why should he change?

Give him a consequence ... like picking up his belongings from the front yard (or they will be tossed within two days) and get out. Play time is over, my dear.

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 1:13:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		lol... Alot of responces on here seem to be sugjesting that I don't do the dishes or clean up at all when it's the roommates mess... But like I said before, Master has put me incharge of cleanning the house (one of my many responsabilatys) If I just stop and get bitchy with Master by saying, "well there's no clean dishes so I didn't make dinner" I will end up out on my ass.
 
I am Master's servant/pet... when I am in service mode and I'm told to make dinner, I make dinner, doesn't matter if I have to clean all the dishes in the sink first it gets done.
 
That was the agreement when I became 24/7 and I will keep up my part of the agreement. Plus I really don't want to move back in with my mother. Cleanning up after the roomate was not part of the agreement, however... but if I don't do all the cleanning, nothing gets done.
 
Telling Master, "No.. and it's all his falt that I'm not going to do that" won't fly. I value my relationship with Master much more then weather I do the dishes or the roommate does. I just want to know how to get this grown man to take resposabilaty for his own mess and not treat me like my only perpous in this house is to clean, cuz it's not.
 
I am not a doormat, the only reason I've been taking care of everything is because if I don't then no one will and we'll have a mouse problem like we did the first few months that I became 24/7.
 
You don't want to know how grose this house was before I got here. ;)  (two singel men living together is icky)
 
Shylah 

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 1:15:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will echo again what some other just said. Your Master has a responsibility to protect you and put you in positions to succeed and not fail. He has not done that with you in this case.

To paraphrase what LA wrote, your Master appointed you sheriff but and gave you a gun without any bullets and you are not even allowed to arrest the person. That was just a mistake on his part. Does not make him a bad Master or a bad relationship but outside of accepting the situation and having the energy to do it with all the other things on your plate, you can only do so much. If you need things to change you have to stress this to your Master and he has to step up and take responsibility which he has not done so far at all.


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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 1:25:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl

lol... Alot of responces on here seem to be sugjesting that I don't do the dishes or clean up at all when it's the roommates mess... But like I said before, Master has put me incharge of cleanning the house (one of my many responsabilatys) If I just stop and get bitchy with Master by saying, "well there's no clean dishes so I didn't make dinner" I will end up out on my ass.
 
I am Master's servant/pet... when I am in service mode and I'm told to make dinner, I make dinner, doesn't matter if I have to clean all the dishes in the sink first it gets done.
 
That was the agreement when I became 24/7 and I will keep up my part of the agreement. Plus I really don't want to move back in with my mother. Cleanning up after the roomate was not part of the agreement, however... but if I don't do all the cleanning, nothing gets done.
 
Telling Master, "No.. and it's all his falt that I'm not going to do that" won't fly. I value my relationship with Master much more then weather I do the dishes or the roommate does. I just want to know how to get this grown man to take resposabilaty for his own mess and not treat me like my only perpous in this house is to clean, cuz it's not.
 
I am not a doormat, the only reason I've been taking care of everything is because if I don't then no one will and we'll have a mouse problem like we did the first few months that I became 24/7.
 
You don't want to know how grose this house was before I got here. ;)  (two singel men living together is icky)
 
Shylah 


Sorry, but I've read through this thread and you do seem to be contradicting yourself. Is this the bottom line: Your master wants you to keep the house clean, deal with both the roommate's mess and with the roommate's anger if you clean up after him (you DID say the roommate told you not to clean up after him, right?), and not bother Master with any of the details about how this gets accomplished or with your feelings about it?

I'm not a slave, but it seems to me from everyting you have said that you have two choices. 1. Be a slave and do as your master asks; or 2. Ask for your release and leave the situation.

I'm sympathetic to your complaints. But pretty much everyone here has said that yes, they think the roommate should be doing his share, and they have given you some ideas for how to make that happen. You say none of those ideas are possible with things as they are currently organized. So...what exactly do you expect anyone else to be able to say that will help?

I'm sorry for your situation, but apparently it's entirely in your hands to change it.



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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 1:32:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl
If I just stop and get bitchy with Master by saying, "well there's no clean dishes so I didn't make dinner" I will end up out on my ass.

Interesting standards your master has for you vs the roommate.  He doesn't have to pay rent for months at a time, but you allow the natural consequences of his orders to run their course and you're out on your ass.

I, of course, agree with the others- your master is passing the buck and the roommate has two great slaves.

quote:

Plus I really don't want to move back in with my mother. Cleanning up after the roomate was not part of the agreement, however... but if I don't do all the cleanning, nothing gets done.

Is there no option?  Are you living rent free with the master and have no source of income?  You can pay rent just as easily with another good roommate who can be held accountable as you can to your master.

quote:

Telling Master, "No.. and it's all his falt that I'm not going to do that" won't fly. I value my relationship with Master much more then weather I do the dishes or the roommate does.

Then what are you upset over?  You've made your choice, now enjoy it.

quote:

I just want to know how to get this grown man to take resposabilaty for his own mess and not treat me like my only perpous in this house is to clean, cuz it's not.

You can't- not unless you decide to make a change and/or your master makes a change.  That's the good thing about being independent beings- we don't have to change unless we want to.  And really, why should he change?  
quote:


I am not a doormat, the only reason I've been taking care of everything is because if I don't then no one will and we'll have a mouse problem like we did the first few months that I became 24/7.

You aren't are doormat- you're just not happy with the agreement you made, but not unhappy enough to really force a change in the situation.
quote:


You don't want to know how grose this house was before I got here. ;)  (two singel men living together is icky)

Shylah 

And you want a medal?  You agreed to do it, you WANTED to do it.  Now you're not happy that you are expected to keep doing what you've always done since you got there.

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 1:37:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can relate to some of the issues. But limited. I live 24/7 with my Master. I have a space in the upstairs area. We have a roommate who i do not always feel does his share of the work. He is a gay leather boy not a submissive. So he understands the M/s and he is respectful of my relationship and role in the house. but i sometimes feel overwhelmed in the house with chores. 

Other then doing my chores and what Master tells me to, the roommate is the Master's problem. Rent issues, utilities, messes, pets. It may sound like i am passing the buck but it is more claification. Sir the utilites have not been paid, do you want me to do anything? Sir, the carpets are covered in pet food and litter do you want to deal with it or me. i inform Sir of the problem and ask his guidace and then i'm done with it.. i either deal with it under his direction or i let it go if He is not bothered by it.

I have NO problem stepping in and tell the roommate to toe the line. But if Sir has said to not worry about a said issue then i have have no problem letting it go. (ok i have a little difficulty letting somethings go but it is good practice for me..lol)

Tell your Master and the follow his guidance, ask Him if he is happy with a dirty livingarea, if he is then that is on him and keep the rest of the house (bedroom your room) sparkling clean.

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 1:48:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl

In responce to people thinking that Master isn't doing anything about this... He has threatened to kick the roommate out sevral times.


 
Threatening him many times is meaningless ... after being threatened so many times ... with no consequences to follow ... it's nothing more than a joke and nothing will ever change.  I think if anything, overtime it'd make him more lazy knowing he can get away with it and your Master seems to be dependent on him for business purposes.  Seems the roommate holds the most control in the house.

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 2:39:04 PM   
Aine


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Status: offline 		I'd have to agree with pretty much everyone here.

Both you and your Master or perhaps just your Master needs to set up REAL consequence for this roomate who has the attitude of a mere teenager. 

As harsh as some of us may sound, but neither of you have really done a darn thing but whine at him.  He is completely walking all over both of you...taking complete advantage.

--Not paying regular rent
--Not taking care of something as simple as cleaning up after himself.(If I remember correctly, he's almost 40?  What a ...You know what?  I'm not going to say it, I'm sure you can image what I think of him)
--Mostly ignoring any kind of polite request and even not so polite requests

If he can't get his shit together, your Master needs to suck it up and kick the squatter out of his house.  A person of that age should be MUCH more self-sufficient than that and he doesn't deserve to live with the two of you.  Both of you are catering to his whims whether you think you are or not.  He sounds like a spoled brat, and needs a swift kick in the ass.

Personally, I'd have given someone like that a -very- short ultimatum and actually ENFORCE it.  Considering how many times both of you have talked to him, I'd say a week to get his shit together or he'll come back to find all of it on the side of the road.

Don't pussy-foot around the issue and tell him straight-up that he needs to grow up.



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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 3:00:00 PM   
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All i've grasped from your posts so far is a basic principle, he is choosing the roomate over you.

From what you said, he would feel more comfortable tossing you out of the house instead of a 38 year old pig. Think about that for a minute.

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 3:10:04 PM   
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...I call him Master's roommate because I have no controle wether he is here or not.

Shylah



and therein lies the problem.  YOU have no control over this person OR the way he behaves in your Master's home, they both know it and frankly, don't seem to care much.  has your Master set limits as to the lengths you should go to to persuade this guy to clean up after himself?

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RE: Master's roommate needs to do his shear of the hous... - 2/20/2007 3:13:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rumtiger

to the op

All i've grasped from your posts so far is a basic principle, he is choosing the roomate over you.

From what you said, he would feel more comfortable tossing you out of the house instead of a 38 year old pig. Think about that for a minute.

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Good point.  Now that I think about it....I can see where you're coming from.


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