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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

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ORIGINAL: wolffeathers

Tal,

First, I'll admit I only skimmed through most of the responses. However, in my little corner of the community, gender bias does/doesn't exist.

Now I'll explain.

It's felt by those of us that there is a way everyone should interact. Men Dominat, females submissive. The same as in almost all other speices of animal. Therefore, it's not bias when it's the truth!

Ever wonder why we hate Goreans?

Yours,


benji

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ORIGINAL: novicecourtesan
However, I would say that this feeling is familiar to any woman who wears a hot, vaguely slutty dress but covers it up with a coat because she doesn't want to be whistled at on the street. Women too have been trained to take many precautions that men don't feel are necessary, and we get used to it even though we didn't like the unfairness of it. If that woman in a hot dress gets raped, she's going to have her own "guilty until proven innocent" problems. I'm not taking her side; every case is different. I think in the large scheme of things, despite the confusion that men may have in their roles and the bias they deal with in the media and in the law, the balance still tips in the favor of women as being more oppressed.

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ORIGINAL: petdave

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ORIGINAL: novicecourtesan
However, I would say that this feeling is familiar to any woman who wears a hot, vaguely slutty dress but covers it up with a coat because she doesn't want to be whistled at on the street. Women too have been trained to take many precautions that men don't feel are necessary, and we get used to it even though we didn't like the unfairness of it. If that woman in a hot dress gets raped, she's going to have her own "guilty until proven innocent" problems. I'm not taking her side; every case is different. I think in the large scheme of things, despite the confusion that men may have in their roles and the bias they deal with in the media and in the law, the balance still tips in the favor of women as being more oppressed.

That IS a classic example of gender bias. A woman can wear something that she knows will make her attractive to the opposite sex, then gets upset when men find her attractive. As someone who has never been attractive to anyone, it really blows my mind. Let's set aside for a moment the danger of non-consensually being taken by force, and consider a simple lingering look, or an invitation to dinner or drinks from a man who is clearly not in her league. What will he get? Hostility, self-righteous anger, a sense of having been greatly wronged. Do women get that same response when taking the initiative with men who are unavailable or uninterested? Anyone? Ever?

As dogthing discussed, women take for granted that they can flaunt their sexuality and, by and large, receive positive reinforcement for it. Men? Uh, yeah. Feel free to count the admiring glances thrown my way when i'm rocking the beach in my banana hammock.
(Joke... before i start getting bills for vomit-damaged keyboards... just a joke)

i'll set aside the "lies, damned lies, and statistics" of salary discrimination. In my working life, i've had three male and two female bosses. Frankly, i'd rather be a housepet, and have not-inconsiderable skill in cabinetry, electrical work, automotive maintenance, and other home-improvement skills to add to the usual "Washing, Ironing, Fucking, Et cetera" that most female houseslaves bring to the table (i know there are exceptions). But, obviously, as a male my place is in the office, and if i desire anything different, i'm just a leech and a wannabe. But that's okay, because being submissive by nature is a huge asset to men in the workforce- no one expects us to be aggressive to get ahead.

And speaking of submission... how often have you seen clubs or parties that have one price for single women (usually free), one price for couples, and the highest price of all for single men? Niiiice.

However, i do admit that to holding a theory that if men and women had equal sex drives, our economy would utterly collapse, so perhaps it is all for the best... for someone, at least.

...dave

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ORIGINAL: novicecourtesan
(why do I have a detachable penis?). 

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ORIGINAL: Sab

The gender bias is always to the woman.

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ORIGINAL: slave2feet07

This link is a perfect example of the topic of this thread. This should not only apply to american women, it should apply to western women in general. Sadly I think this person hates women but he is closer to the truth than what most people would like to admit.

http://www.the-niceguy.com/Sexism.php

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ORIGINAL: slave2feet07

It all comes down to that a lot of today's women are malignant narcissists. So many women are more in love with them selves and their gender than they are with men. 

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ORIGINAL: slave2feet07

It all comes down to that a lot of today's women are malignant narcissists. So many women are more in love with them selves and their gender than they are with men. 

Dont hold back.  Say what you really feel.

Sinergy

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How often do women express the wrong things men do? Have a very long think about it and than question your views on equality.

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My questions are, in this life of BDSM, D/s and M/s is how much do you think gender bias comes into play both on the boards and in real life where the men are often found more often guilty until proven innocent then women on things in this life, have you ever caught yourself in a double standard and for message board purposes maybe some of the reasons this sometimes happens is because there can be a difference in how some males write that cause this bias (more coarse language and less description at times)?

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ORIGINAL: slave2feet07

lol of course, a man is a misogynist for expressing the wrong things women do but I wonder if a woman is a misandrist for expressing the wrong things men do? How often do women express the wrong things men do? Have a very long think about it and than question your views on equality. :-D