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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 7:41:19 PM   
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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 7:48:52 PM   
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Your edited post added all the lines past the first.  I responded to your first.
Do you have children?

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 7:50:33 PM   
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There is no real way to measure which victims will forever be scarred, as opposed to the ones who are more resilient and go on to lead happy, productive lives with some bad memories.
IMO - Until there is, I see a less than wholly justifiable outcome in simple solutions like locking these folks up forever, and throwing away the key. We have a justice system in this country - we don't live in a nation where total annihilation (of anyone) is supposedly the goal if they victimize someone else (w/the exception of murder, and I am personally at odds with the whole capital punishment idea). To me, that includes perpetrators (after they've done their time) as well as victims.
But I would like to see more victim's compensation courts implemented - because I do see more emphasis on the perpetrators than the victims.


I really do not think how emotionally scared the victim is should have any baring on the punishment for the predator. I think once a person has made the decision to harm a child in that way, there are no second chances. Our children can not afford for us to give them second chances.
Actually capital punishment has been sentenced for other crimes, not just murder.


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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 8:03:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		deadbluebird: I can understand your reasoning is highly emotional, and from an emotional standpoint, I can sometimes feel the same way.

But - you just completely decimated the justice system with one paragraph, and I don't think you realize it. Weighing the consequences of a perpetrator's actions on a victim is a cornerstone of the law, when considering sentencing, and also sentence limitations.

Justice means that - justice. It also means everyone decides what is considered appropriate behavior in a society, via elected legislators. I hear people say these things (what you said) all the time, where I volunteer. The problem is, they rarely bother to even vote. I hope you at least vote.

Aileen: I have nieces and nephews I care about very much, and I do volunteer work with abused children at least 2 days a week. Do you have any abused children?

- Susan   

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 8:07:55 PM   
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Do you realize how easy it s for someone to be laeblled a sex offender, even if they are not convicted? Even if they never commited the crime? Do you realize how easily people's lives can be ruined, almost overnight, by one kid whispering in their mom's ear that Mr. so-and-so was touching little Amy in a not-so-nice way?

It sickens me just how many people seem willing to buy that kind of information - regardless of whether it even checks out. It can really turn my stomach - almost as much as a real sex offense can.

"Better safe than sorry" - is too easy a solution (for me). It's just simplistic thinking, and it's not fair. It's the kind of thinking that got black people lynched by the Klan, earlier in this century.

Maybe there isn't an easy solution - but I would  have hoped for better, slightly more sophisiticated reasoning, from peopleon a bdsm website. No insult intended (really and truly).
- Susan


I dont belive it is as simple as that. I dont think lives are ruined over "one kid whispering in their moms ear" falsely about someone.When a child's innocence is striped and their lives forever scared in one way or another, That is not fair. I really do not care anymore at that point what is fair or not for that predator.
I in no way feel i protrayed the attitude of " better safe than sorry" I also dont feel that comparing when a person beyond a reason of doubt, with physical evidence harms a child, is given no second chance to do this with the black people that got lynched by the klan makes any sence at all. I dont think there is any need for this issue to be made more
complex than it is. It really is not a complicated issue. When an adult makes the decision to harm a child they should no longer get the pleasure to make any more choices at all.

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 8:15:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		deadbluebird: I do work with abused and vicitmized children at least two days a  week at a children's shelter. I am well aware of the thing that happen to children as a result of things like incest, rape and domestic violence.

I also think there is more than one side to an issue when considering it. I just hate it when people justify this kind of thinking by the simple statement: "Well, I am a parent". Well, I've seen and worked with kids who have been raped by their (biological) parents, so I guess we're "even" there. 

The only reason I considered it akin to the kind of thinking that got black people lynched by the Klan is because it is just as emotionally rabid - just as lacking in compassion. Of course it's easier, too - since it has societys "stamp of approval", but it's just as devoid of any ability to see beyond a lunch-mob mentality.

This isn't a personal insult (really it's not - I am referring to many comments in this thread, not yours in particular). And of course, everyone does have a right to their own opinion - and I am probably not going to change it with mine.

At the beginning of the century - black people (regardless of the fact they are of course not pedophiles) were seen as less than human, and nobody (who had any real power anyway, at the time) really gave a rat's ass about that. Trying to tell someone they were, was like talking to a brick wall. That's what I meant.

I am trying to realize that there are also people who committ these acts who are going to go through the justice system, and come out for better or worse (for everyone involved) on the other end.

Locking them up forever is an easy solution - and also extremely expesnsive - but I'd like to see a victim's compensation court, and more monitoring them taking Depo-provera.  

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 8:21:44 PM   
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deadbluebird: I can understand your reasoning is highly emotional, and from an emotional standpoint, I can sometimes feel the same way.
But - you just completely decimated the justice system with one paragraph, and I don't think you realize it. Weighing the consequences of a perpetrator's actions on a victim is a cornerstone of the law, when considering sentencing, and alos sentence limitations.
Justice means that - justice. It also means everyone decides what is considered appropriate behavior in a society, via elected legislators. I hear people say these things (what you said) all the time, where I volunteer. The problem is, they rarely bother to even vote. I hope you at least vote.
Aileen: I have nieces and nephews I care about very much, I do volunteer work with abused children at least 2 days a week. Do you have any abused children?
- Susan   


I do not feel that i in any way "decimated the justice system". I do not agree that the consequences of the predators act in this situation make a difference. I dont believe that the legal system is set up so that it does.The sentencing for a predator that harms a five year old girl who has the mental strength to handle it "well" is not any different than the predator that harms a five year old girl who is now in complete shambles. If there is a difference there needs to be chances made.
And yes, i do vote.

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 8:25:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Of course it is. In most cases, the sentence is up to the sole discretion of the judge (within sentence limitations). How do you think they make that judgment? By taking into consideration the parameters of the case, and the victim impact statements (from parents, teachers, etc). But you're right, in many case, judges just givr them a blanket sentence - the maximum. It's poliitcally popular, at the moment, especially, to - and it gets them more votes come re-election time.

I am not arguing these folks don't deserve prison time, or maybe also some "chemical solution" (like Depo) for their likelihood to re-offend. I am just wondering why poeple seem to always make these discussions into "either-or" arguments.

- Susan 

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 8:41:35 PM   
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deadbluebird: I do work with abused and vicitmized children at least two days a  week at a children's shelter. I am well aware of the thing that happen to children as a result,of things like incest, rape and domestic violence.
I also think there is or more than one side to an issue when considering it. I just hate it when people justify this kind of thinking by the simple statement: "Well, I am a parent". Well, I've seen and worked with kids who have been raped by their (bilogocal) parents, so I guess we're "even" there. 
The only reason I considered it akin to the kind of thinking that got black peope lynched by the Klan is because it is just as enmotionally rabid - just as devoid of any ability to see beyond a lunch-mob mentality, just as devoid of any compassion whatsoever. At the beginning of the century - black people (regardless of the fact they are of course not pedophiles) were seen as less than human, and nobody (who had any real power anyway, at the time) really gave  a rat's ass about that. Trying to tell someone they were was like talking to a brick wall. That's what I meant.
I am trying to realize that there are also people who committ these acts who are going to go through the justice system, and come out for better or worse (for everyone involved) on the other end.
Locking them up forever is an easy solution - and also extremely expesnsive - but I'd like to see a victim's compensation court, and more monitoring them taking Depo-provera.  


It is honorable the work to do. I however do not think people try to justify it by saying they are parents. I believe it is natually justified and they feel you do not understand because you do not have children.
I still do not agree that the actions of the klan against black people and the mentality that a child assaulter having no second chances are the same. A black person being treated like less than human based only on the color of their skin Is Not the same as a child predator not being given the chance to harm again. And no that predator no longer deserves anyones compassion.
Personally i think locking them up forever is too expensive of a "solution" also. I would like to see much more final consequences. I dont see how them being forced to take a drug and to pay the victim a monetary sum is a solution.If anything i could see this having quite negative results including built up anger and resentment resulting in even worse actions.


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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 9:00:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		deadbluebird: I want to apologize for getting so emotional about my POV. 

I really do understand about the kids - and it's not fair to say I don't because I don't have children. I am certainly much more dedicated to most of these kids than their biological parents ever were, that's for sure. You can take that to the bank and cash it. Most of their fathers were just sperm donors, and many of their mothers don't deserve the title. If biological heritage is the sole determination of who is fit to be compassionate toward children, many of these children's parents are batting zero. Mere biology does not a decent parent make, in my opinion. If it did, I'd be out of a job. 

Well, whether black people deserved that treatment at the time didn't seem to really matter - and that was my only point. 

I think financial compensation would hit some of these people right where they live. They'd also have to do real work (and not just take a bite out of my money in taxes) to pay for their crime. I think prison is at least as likely to cause resentment - and the atmosphere is a lot less glamorous than a working office. But I think they deserve some prison time, too. That was my reasoning.

I don't think financial compensation shoud replace prison time, or anything like that. I am also not sure people could ever agree on what amount of compensation would be considered fair. My guess is there would be wildly varying "financial sentences."

- Susan

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 9:31:08 PM   
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Do you realize how easy it is for someone to be labelled a sex offender, by gossip and innuendo - even if they are not convicted? Even if they never commited the crime? Do you realize how easily people's lives can be ruined, almost overnight, by one kid whispering in their mom's ear that Mr. so-and-so was touching little Amy in a not-so-nice way?

It sickens me just how many people seem willing to buy that kind of information - regardless of whether it even checks out. It can really turn my stomach - almost as much as a real sex offense can.

I realize these people have committed real crimes - and against children, too. And that rapists have committed them against people unable to defend themselves. But -

"Better safe than sorry" - is (in many ways) too easy a solution (for me). It's just simplistic thinking, and it's not very fair. It might be the only realisitc solution at the monent, but it's also the kind of thinking that got black people lynched by the Klan, earlier in this century. 

Maybe there really isn't a better solution - but I would  have hoped for better, slightly more sophisiticated reasoning, from people on a bdsm website. No insult intended (really and truly). It sounds to me like almost nobody can even sympathize with the fact these are real people. Everyone is entitiled to their own opinion.

But - It seems it's either-or black or white, good or bad. Is it really? I doubt it. 

I find myself wondering whatever happened to seeing different sides of an issue.

- Susan


I was talking about convicted pedophiles, SusanofO.

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/22/2007 9:34:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		 I know. I sort of got off-track there, I admit. I can get a wee bit enotional in discussions, sometimes (but so can other people). Sorry.

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/23/2007 5:55:06 AM   
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I'll take cynical and jaded everday instead of having my head in the clouds. 
Whatever keeps my girls safe.  That's what a parent does.  We keep our unmentionables as safe as we can.


Then, nothing I say will have an impact on your opinion.  Period.  I'm not picking on you, personally, nor is this intended as an attack.  I use your post as an example of how this issue is; very similar to abortion in nature, where no hundred or thousand good reasons will carry the least bit of weight, in either direction.  The knee-jerk, gut reaction simply doesn't leave much room for debate, and is evidence of the real crisis our penal system and society faces.

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/23/2007 7:13:22 AM   
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Then, nothing I say will have an impact on your opinion. 
Take care,

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And vice versa.  It would be lovely if rehabilitation worked.  But it doesn't.  I'd be all gung ho for giving people a second chance when the day comes that someone is able to find an effective means of curing this.  As for now, the present method of trial and error is unacceptable.  And no, I don't have any kind of solution other then keeping them in jail.  That is the only 100% method of guaranteeing no repeat.  If they didn't commit a crime, then they wouldn't have to worry about their rights and liberties being taken from them. 
So....I'll leave it that we agree to disagree. 

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/23/2007 7:22:19 AM   
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If you haven't raised your children well enough to handle firearms responsibly, have you raised them at all?

If firearms are such a bad idea, why does every police officer carry one?

And 911's a joke.




I completely agree with this. As the daughter of two cops, I grew up with guns on the coffee table and kitchen counter from the time I was about 8. I knew how to shoot them and I knew to respect them and I knew to never EVER touch them without permission. Kids have grown up with guns for hundreds of years...they've only started shooting each other on a regular basis in the last 20yrs of so, when parents have decided that teaching responsiblity and giving their kids proper supervision wasn't terribly important.

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/23/2007 7:29:00 AM   
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perhaps their sex drive should be taken away


Isn't sexual assault more about power than sex?

I don't think chemical castration is the answer.  There are other ways to penetrate and abuse victims, taking away the sex drive, I don't see that as a workable solution.

Like Aileen said, if you want them in your neighborhood, fine, but I don't want them living close to me.


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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/23/2007 7:45:42 AM   
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perhaps their sex drive should be taken away


Isn't sexual assault more about power than sex?

I don't think chemical castration is the answer.  There are other ways to penetrate and abuse victims, taking away the sex drive, I don't see that as a workable solution.

Like Aileen said, if you want them in your neighborhood, fine, but I don't want them living close to me.



Ditto...I work with pedophiles and I have talked with them about their condition We have a whole floor of the county jail dedicated to them.

First thing you have to understand is that there is a huge difference between true pedophiles and guys messing around with 16yr olds. Psychologically, a true pedophile is one who abuses a person who has not yet reached puberty.  The rest of the guys are in their for having "teenage girlfriends" which is a different thing.

Regardless of age, you can't really fault a man for feeling an attraction to a creature which has reached puberty, is exuding sex hormones, has the body of a grown woman, is feeling sexual attraction herself etc. Yes, he should respect that "18 is the law" and should control himself, but it doesn't make him unnatural or evil just because he was 20 and she was16. His brain is not that of a pedophile. His actions are driven by pure sexual desire (and often the female is consenting in these cases.)

True pedophilia has NOTHING to do with sex or sex drive. (I don't have links, but I have read studies about the subject.) They will tell you this themselves. I have heard them say, "I'm sick...I wish I could change, but I can't...I'll never change." Studies showed that even after castration (removel of all sex hormones/sex drive), the pedophile will still continue to abuse. They will utilize objects in place of their penis. In fact, even in uncastrated pedophiles, true intercourse is rare (it's usually fondling, insertion of fingers/items, etc.)  That's because it isn't orgasm or sexual gratification they seek but rather the feeling of wielding power.

Study after study shows that you cannot rehabilitate these people...they are like rabid animals. Death is the only way to stop them from spreading their sickness.

Even in jail, when years of their life is on the line, they still go through magazines and newspapers and cut out pictures of small UMs. They hide the pics in their bibles and legal work so we won't find them. These aren't nudity pics...just faces. They want to see those faces and think about the power they would get from abuse.

It's absolutely sickening....and it's my least favorite floor to work.

Someone a few pages back stated that we would feel different if it was our family member of friend in jail for these crimes...well as I mentioned on another thread, my stepbrother is serving time for 5 accounts of aggravated sexual assault of a minor. He was 18, she was 13. She was consenting. It was still wrong. Is he a "true pedophile"? No. I don't think he is. But he took advantage of a young and naive girl and he deserves to be punished for that. I don't look at him any differently than those men I work with. My parents have disowned him and as far as I'm concerned, he doesn't exist. He deserves to be put on a list so others can know to keep their preteens away from him.

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/23/2007 8:12:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		The same thing might be said of many other criminals, too - so why the focus on pedphiles, is all I am wondering?

There are many, many people who are considered "career criminals" - and most of them are not pedophiles (although pedphiles are at very high risk, generally, to re-offend.) These types are well-known to the justice system. No matter how many years they spend in prison, or whether or not they recieve whatever "counselling" the prison system offers, the still go back out and re-offend. They're just not all pedophiles.

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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/23/2007 8:17:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Because Susan, it has been shown that most other crimes have at least SOME chance at rehabilition. Even heroin users have known to get clean and stay clean. It is almost completely unheard of for a pedophile to rehabilitate. They themselves will tell you that it is not possible. Other crimes are done for other reasons (greed, money, addiction, etc.) Being a pedophile is like having some incurable disease. There is no way to treat it and no way to make it go away. The studies are pretty conclusive. If you cut a man's penis off, he'll just buy a dildo and go back to abusing UMs. It's a sickness of the mind (NOT of the chemicals of the brain.) It's a sickness of the soul. It doesn't go away. BELIEVE me, I work with men in their 70s and 80s who have records going back 50yrs...they tell you it does not go away.

It's like truly kinky people...I had an interest in BDSM from the time I was about 5.  It was always there and never went away. There's not a program in the world that could turn me vanilla forever. It's like being gay...you can put gays in all the programs you want but they are still gay. They did a study that said sexual orientation is set by the age of 6. The study was in reference to homosexuality but I wouldn't be surprised if other sexual preferences are set for life by that age.

ETA: career criminals are not sick. They make a conscious decision to become career criminals because they like the lifestyle. I was talking to one about two weeks ago...he told me, "Being in jail is ok...I'll be in jail on and off for the rest of my life. I LOVE the criminal world...it is beautiful! I have beautiful women and all the money I could ever spend...I wouldn't give that up for the straight life."

Career criminals don't want to change. They like their life. That's why they do it. Pedophile usually hate themselves and what they do...they are disgusted by it. They couldn't change if their life depended on it.


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RE: Keepin'It Real - Locate Offenders in your area! - 2/23/2007 8:26:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		GeekyGirl: My theory about career criminals has always been that they are too scared to really compete with the rest of society, and would rather have society house and feed them. Then they can stay behind bars and talk about how "tough" they are, etc. 

IMO, the kind of Scarlet-letter branding of pedophiles, while it provides a supposedly "workable solution" makes even less sense to me then it otherwise might have - not more. It's not working if they are too compulsive to care, that's why.

Because shaming them just won't work - they're too compulsive for it to work - remember?

*And you think the solution is to kill someone whose behavior is completely out of their control to begin with? Hmmm. Maybe it's me, but that doesn't really sound all that fair.

So why are we branding them even after they've done their time? Because it's a crime? Lots of behavior is criminal. Murder, grand larceny, rape, etc, etc. I agree pedophilia is criminal behavior - it's just too compulsive for rehabilitation?

Then what the _ell are people doing, acting like it's gonna go away if they just say the magic words? If the desire is pure retribution I can understand it (a little, completely ineffective as it may be). But then again, it doesn't work, does it? if it won't prevent a relapse.

If what you say is true - then I'd think it would be come very obvious that it is behavior that is out of (the pedophile's) control.

If the best society can do as far as managing someone who is completely out of control is to brand them with a Scarlett letter in the hope it will deter their behavior - then it's clear to me that is a response that is a complete band-aid just waiting to fall off, as far as being a real solution.

My guess is people don't know what else to do with them - but that's really not good enough (for me). They should think a little harder as far as coming up with a better solution, IMO.

Maybe re-location (as popeye suggested) is a good idea after all.

- Susan 

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