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Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/22/2007 10:12:47 AM   
hereyesruponyou


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Status: offline 		Hey guys, I'm curious. This is a mind bender kinda question, i am addressing it to male slaves, but anyone feel free to give me an opinion, that's all you can have on this topic anyhow. Just trying to understand the mindset....

If you truly believe in Female Supremacy, that women are just better and meant to rule you poor weak males....how do you justify the fact that there are femal subs/slaves. Do you think only some females are worthy of being worshipped? Because i find with males who have this attitude that they are ready to immediately lie at my feet without even knowing me. A little insane in my opinion, but i'm a safety nut.

I guess i wonder where do you see these other women then? Still above you? Or somewhere else entirely....

Thanks in advance for the effort if you answer!!!



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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/22/2007 10:21:15 AM   
porthuronsub


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Status: offline 		Thats a really good question.  Myself I see them above me still.  If I were in a poly houshold I would be below the Mistress and her female subs. 
As far as their mindset as being submissive to other men when I believe in female superiority?  To each their own. 

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/22/2007 10:23:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually I find it more prevalent for female subs to look down or not be able to understand male subs. 

Male subs tend to just believe it's the female prerogative to be in that place and disregard it in their estimations of women.

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/22/2007 10:34:48 AM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		I think like lucky said i do not understand male subs (as i have often said to my Master).  I guess it is just the flip side of the coin.  If there are female subs why not males.  I don't look down on them i see them as equals.

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/22/2007 10:34:50 AM   
porthuronsub


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Actually I find it more prevalent for female subs to look down or not be able to understand male subs. 

Male subs tend to just believe it's the female prerogative to be in that place and disregard it in their estimations of women.


I think upbringing has alot to do with it.  I was raised to respect all women, and to address them appropriately.  There are some women that I could never be submissive to, just no respect for them what-so-ever.  The Springer white trash kinda women, but in general I am below women. 
I think the country would do well to have a female President, I don't want Clinton, because I simply disagree with her politics. 
Sorry I seem to have run off on a tangent....

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/22/2007 11:24:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I consider most submissive women as superior to me because most of them are actually quite strong and confident. The only reason why they choose to be submissive is because it gives them pleasure. And they know how to get this pleasure as well. I have to say that I read a lot of profiles of submissive women and some of them turn me on. Not because I imagine what it would be like to make them submit to me but rather because I realize that they are attractive and that I will never have sex with them. It is a bit like having to endure cuckolding.

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/22/2007 11:58:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Any kind of supremacy makes no sense in my mind. I'm not superior or inferior to women just because I happened to be born with a cock. 

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/22/2007 12:19:04 PM   
hereyesruponyou


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the insight!  I personally have no specific feelings toward any one gender or any other identifying trait as being superior or inferior. I tend to see everyone as an individual and think we might be different rather than above or below. As i said i am trying to understand this from the perspective of those who do feel this way.

More responses???

ps: don't get us started on politics now porthuronsub, i am so not ready to go there yet, just hoping i can vote FOR someone this time rather than picking the least dispicable character

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/22/2007 12:26:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Precisely, there are female slaves/subs. I don't feel any one person is better than another, even in the lifestyle. Being submissive is not being inferior. A matter of fact, it takes alot of strength to submit to anothers will.

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/22/2007 12:28:10 PM   
toservez


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Status: offline 		I must write I hope a lot of male submissives respond as this is an interesting topic.

I agree with LA in the respect that I struggle with my feeling and thinking with male subs. It is not that I do not respect them but do have a hard time understanding them and I know that is really stupid.

While not a male sub the gross generalization of something like all males are inferior to females is, I am sorry, but no way true so the statement is more about living in a certain mindset then truly living and treating every single woman on the planet as their superior. So when I hear statements like this uttered by people I choose, right or wrong, to believe that it is more of a mantra/high percentage and not something they believe 100% literally.


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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/22/2007 2:29:37 PM   
porthuronsub


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ORIGINAL: hereyesruponyou

Thanks for the insight!  I personally have no specific feelings toward any one gender or any other identifying trait as being superior or inferior. I tend to see everyone as an individual and think we might be different rather than above or below. As i said i am trying to understand this from the perspective of those who do feel this way.

More responses???

ps: don't get us started on politics now porthuronsub, i am so not ready to go there yet, just hoping i can vote FOR someone this time rather than picking the least dispicable character


Sorry about bringing politics into your thread. But, yea isn't that great, picking the lesser of two evils.  We just had the same thing in our governor race.

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/24/2007 12:22:25 AM   
ServenteMail


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Status: offline 		Hereresyuponyou,
fortuanetly i believe in nothing now so the whole lot of 'em is below anything.
F slaves to a F domme are just an even weaker female.
M slaves to a F domme are below them.
F slaves to a M dom are just one chair to the left on the darwin scal

Had this been asked when I was

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/24/2007 6:55:24 AM   
MissEnchantress


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Status: offline 		A slave I know, well call him slave j, would say that even though the female 'appears' to be submissive she really is in control of the realationship.  Serving the Dom to get what she wants.  Just an interesting thought.

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/24/2007 7:50:06 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: MissEnchantress
A slave I know, well call him slave j, would say that even though the female 'appears' to be submissive she really is in control of the realationship.  Serving the Dom to get what she wants.  Just an interesting thought.

Getting what you want does not equate to being in authority.  In healthy relationships, everyone should get what they want.

This is a line that female subs often hear in order to make them feel better and more relaxed about this new type of relationship "You're really still the one in control."

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/24/2007 8:18:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

This is a line that female subs often hear in order to make them feel better and more relaxed about this new type of relationship "You're really still the one in control."


I hear it from my kinda-kink-kinda-vanilla friends all the time too.

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/24/2007 8:25:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
I hear it from my kinda-kink-kinda-vanilla friends all the time too.

Ha yeah.

Hence why I always say "It's not about control, it's about authority."

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/24/2007 8:36:50 AM   
BOUNTYHUNTER


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Status: offline 		I find that male subs/slaves are strang creatures,many are in it for the sex only.Now I hear you all screaming but its true..AS a married dom couple we find that at the start males are on their best behavior and as time goes by seems to forget that they are there for one reason and turn into whinning little sobs..Kept in chasity begging for release at out discreation...especially ts and gender benders turn into divas ... For that reason we shall only consider a top of the line bi male slave,I know this is harsh but thats the way I see the situation...BH

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/24/2007 9:21:21 AM   
kinkiminx


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ORIGINAL: Lewis28

I consider most submissive women as superior to me because most of them are actually quite strong and confident. The only reason why they choose to be submissive is because it gives them pleasure. And they know how to get this pleasure as well. I have to say that I read a lot of profiles of submissive women and some of them turn me on. Not because I imagine what it would be like to make them submit to me but rather because I realize that they are attractive and that I will never have sex with them. It is a bit like having to endure cuckolding.


Well this would be true for some of us, but there are others -and plenty on this forum- who'd disagree and claim to be genuinely submissive and from what I can see, they're very genuine and do it very well!

I'd annotate that though - both my pleasure, and the pleasure of my partner. And believe it or not, that applies to both subbing, and Domming. Strength and confidence doesn't have to mean selfishness!

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/24/2007 9:23:58 AM   
kinkiminx


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ORIGINAL: rick19

Any kind of supremacy makes no sense in my mind. I'm not superior or inferior to women just because I happened to be born with a cock. 


Lol My thoughts exactly, but reverse that, not having the cock of course!

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RE: Male slaves & Female Supremacy - 2/24/2007 9:29:21 AM   
kinkiminx


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ORIGINAL: hereyesruponyou

Hey guys, I'm curious. This is a mind bender kinda question, i am addressing it to male slaves, but anyone feel free to give me an opinion, that's all you can have on this topic anyhow. Just trying to understand the mindset....

If you truly believe in Female Supremacy, that women are just better and meant to rule you poor weak males....how do you justify the fact that there are femal subs/slaves. Do you think only some females are worthy of being worshipped? Because i find with males who have this attitude that they are ready to immediately lie at my feet without even knowing me. A little insane in my opinion, but i'm a safety nut.

I guess i wonder where do you see these other women then? Still above you? Or somewhere else entirely....

Thanks in advance for the effort if you answer!!!



I love this post because it brings up a topic I'm always noticing - I'm not a female or male supremacist, but believe in free choice. I don't define myself as a sub, beyond when I am subbing in a BDSM situation I'm a person lol, and don't believe a sub puts him or herself beneath anyone else by subbing, except perhaps the person he or she is subbing to. 

Subs also don't all have the same reasons for subbing, some may do it because they're naturally submissive, some for pleasure, relaxation and a different way of expressing how they feel to their partner... and I can imagine, plenty of other reasons! I think this side of me gives me a bit of balance in life; in everyday life, I'm much more dominant than submissive and have a tendency to take responsibility and to look out for other people, if I didn't have a sub side in this area of my life, I'd either be driven up the wall, or I'd become extremely big-headed, and my head would explode for certain...

The idea of one sex being better than another, might at times ignore all subs of the "offending" gender, simply because everywhere I've seen this it's not necessarily so much about the person's ideals as it's about their fantasies. Not all female supremacists I've met necessarily believe women are better at everything, they just enjoy the idea of women on top.
I can't answer your question about what female-supremacist male subs think about female subs/slaves/switches, being a female, though I'd also be curious to know!

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