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puella -> Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 7:36:44 AM)

[RANT ALERT]

I am a news junkie...and now, I am an outraged and disgusted news junkie.

With the current Walter Reed scandal, the struggle for debate of the single most important American issue raging in both houses of Congress, the stepped up lethality of attacks against our troops in the occupation, further revelations of signing statements and bill attachments sneaking in breaches in our civil liberties and further stripping our economy, I turn on the news to see both how the media is covering these pressing issues, and to find out more information.

...and am subjected to a farce of a court battle about a bloated dead celebutard corpse and a self indulgent idiotic girl who is self destructing...... ON THE NEWS!

Our news has been interrupted for almost an entire day with some moronic weeping judge performing his melodramatic monologue about his anguish at having to make a legal ruling which should have required about 10 minutes of common sense time,  and the bad behaviors of a second rate pop singer shaving her head and checking in and out of rehab.

What a sad commentary on or society that this is what we allow to override the news when our citizens are dieing abroad, and our people are suffering at home in so many vital ways.

What is wrong with us all?



KatyLied -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 7:39:06 AM)

quote:

What is wrong with us all?


I think the government probably approves and encourages anything in the news that takes the focus away from the middle east and casualties of war.



sub4hire -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 7:42:32 AM)

I have to say I am somewhat of a news hound myself.  Thanks to the internet I even read the papers in numerous countries around the world on a daily basis. 
Aside from all the major news channels.  News is the first thing I see in the am and last thing I see before I go to bed in the pm.

What is wrong with us as a whole?  Well, we like sensation.  We liked to watch train wrecks and car chases even when it turns out bad for the people involved.

That unfortunately is the American spirit. 



pahunkboy -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 7:53:05 AM)

Among my most polical minded buddies- the attitude is fatique and weariness over IRAQ- and NEOCON take over.  many simpy tune it out- it is a re-run.

for today i find the 2 "Stars" news as a welcomed excape.

brittany in and out of rehab 3 times this month ??   come on now- i lived as a codependent for 7 years with my ex.

on annna n smith- per the judge-   i disagree with you. a HUMAN judge.

this is modern day shaksphere unfolding. 

for what it is worth- due to crapppy tv prgramming and too many commercials i find myself putting on music- or nothing.

i had hoped for sanity in washington per 06 election.

as my 82 year old role model, Jeanne said.  "they are all a bunch of crooks"



juliaoceania -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 7:59:17 AM)

I have caught a few words here and there about these things, but I do not watch TV news, and that means I am out of the loop for these stories. I used to read several newspapers a day, but I found it depressed me and outraged me, and my feeling that way was not going to change anything... so I read the news once a day, sometimes not even that.

Infotainment is infotainment... it is sad that people think what they are getting is news, but you know well informed people do not buy anymore slimfast than uninformed people



RosaB -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 7:59:31 AM)

I'm a bit of a news junkie myself, I wake and go to sleep to the news, well maybe not go to sleep, I do like to watch that Fergurson guy on latenight TV.  But I'm inclined to blame the news media for what's blaring on the tube of late.  I end up having to turn the news off lately as to avoid the over kill of the latest, non news celebrity reports.  Frankly, I feel more sad for the ladies and their offspring and just hope the program directors get a grip and start gearing their staff back on to more news worthy reporting.

And its not just the American spirit that reeks of this desire for celebrity train recks or and sensationalizm, its the human spirit of people around the world. 

Rosa



pahunkboy -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 8:02:10 AM)

Here is what I consider news.  [;-)]

My cock is the center of the universe.  HUGE.   

write it down



Mercnbeth -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 8:10:40 AM)

quote:

What is wrong with us all?


puella,
Nothing. We are getting served exactly what we are ordering. Is is a simple matter of economics. Broadcast news must generate a profit. Profit is the only motivating factor when decisions are made concerning news content or its delivery. Gossip sells, sex sells; and it is cheap to produce.

People are frustrated with politics and politicians. They don't have the desire, and perhaps most don't have the ability to differentiate fact from rhetoric so they avoid news of that nature. I believe most don't want to be drawn into the frustration of the war in Iraq, and don't have a clue regarding the news issues that you raise. Congress just spent four days debating a referendum on the war that had no impact; and people applauded the result.

Look at the focus of the candidates for the presidency in 2008. They are here in Hollywood soliciting handouts from the entertainment industry. Their platform will not be built upon effecting any change that isn't approved by Geffin, Spielberg, and others of their ilk.

Sunday, Al Gore will get the biggest ovation when he wins the Oscar for his dramatic documentary version of the movie "Day After Tomorrow". Its entertainment. News? You have to be willing and dedicated to go get that on your own.

"Bread & Circus" provided by a media whose only goal is the bottom line.



puella -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 8:22:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
Among my most polical minded buddies- the attitude is fatique and weariness over IRAQ- and NEOCON take over.  many simpy tune it out- it is a re-run.


To that I can only say... I would imagine the weariness of our troops, many of whom have been recirculated without any r/r time for as many as 4 consecutive tours in a battle zone is a bit more acute and important than any ennui they may be feeling.  The very least we owe the people who are risking their lives for a policy we have not demanded be changed is attention... flawlessly scrupulous attention.


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

for today i find the 2 "Stars" news as a welcomed excape.


To that I respond by asking... what escape do you think is being afforded to the men and women we have slapped down in the middle of a civil war, the likes of which they have not been properly trained or armed for?  No offense pahunkboy, but I do not think any of us sitting here on our comfy fat asses are entitled to escapism until we have ensured that those who were meant to protect us, are not being utilized for imperialistic agendas, and are safe.  I might also suggest that if you do need that escape, the place you should find it is on Entertainment Tonight, not CNN.

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

on annna n smith- per the judge-   i disagree with you. a HUMAN judge.



I hate to burst your bubble, pahunkboy, but you do realize that the judge in question has been 'shopping' out a demo tape to try to secure himself a contract as another TV judge in the pantheon of lame ass court TV show, correct?  And that a great amount of time was wasted, and tax payer dollars, don't forget that, while he rhapsodized about his own personal experiences, which had nothing to do with the court issue he was supposed to be dealing with... and that while that was happening, he had to be reminded that the corpse was rotting.


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

this is modern day shaksphere unfolding. 


No, Shakespearian theater was just that... theater.  It was fictional (and occasionally historical fiction) drama employed as an entertainment in the appropriate venue, a theater.  This is the hijacking of news channels, preventing their actual raison d'être, should not be viewed as entertaining but scandalous. 



news  [image]http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/premium.gif[/image]  [image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png[/image][image]http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif[/image]  /nuz, nyuz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nooz, nyooz] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun (usually used with a singular verb[image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png[/image])



1.
a report of a recent event; intelligence; information: His family has had no news of his whereabouts for months.



2.
the presentation of a report on recent or new events in a newspaper or other periodical or on radio or television.

Shakespearian Theater can be found on PBS or Fox, depending on whether you prefer intellectual entertainments or reality/exploitative 'talk-show' entertainments.




pahunkboy -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 8:32:40 AM)

Puella, may I ask what your news sources are?

Constant war pics serve as proaganda to control the masses.  So long as the masses  are distraacted, confused, divided- the ruling 1% gets to rule.  I you rise high enuff to be of a threat to the 1%, things will happen to you. You will be shot down.

In none of the news is solutions asked for.

I friken POs me- per the presidential deabtes.  I want to ask the question, i want a reqal debate.


the 1%. you are a peon, in the 99% like me.

How do we band toagther and fix this all?





puella -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 8:33:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth


puella,
Nothing. We are getting served exactly what we are ordering....

"Bread & Circus" provided by a media whose only goal is the bottom line.


I hear what you are saying, Mrcnbeth... but I still find that scandalous and sad commentary upon us all. 



puella -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 8:36:18 AM)

Certainly, you may. 

For TV news I flip between the BBC, CNN, CSPAN and MSNBC, as well as one local news program for news more specific to my region. 

I had a bit of trouble understanding what else you were saying after you asked that, sorry pahunkboy ;)



pahunkboy -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 8:37:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: puella

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
Among my most polical minded buddies- the attitude is fatique and weariness over IRAQ- and NEOCON take over.  many simpy tune it out- it is a re-run.


To that I can only say... I would imagine the weariness of our troops, many of whom have been recirculated without any r/r time for as many as 4 consecutive tours in a battle zone is a bit more acute and important than any ennui they may be feeling.  The very least we owe the people who are risking their lives for a policy we have not demanded be changed is attention... flawlessly scrupulous attention.


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

for today i find the 2 "Stars" news as a welcomed excape.


To that I respond by asking... what escape do you think is being afforded to the men and women we have slapped down in the middle of a civil war, the likes of which they have not been properly trained or armed for?  No offense pahunkboy, but I do not think any of us sitting here on our comfy fat asses are entitled to escapism until we have ensured that those who were meant to protect us, are not being utilized for imperialistic agendas, and are safe.  I might also suggest that if you do need that escape, the place you should find it is on Entertainment Tonight, not CNN.

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

on annna n smith- per the judge-   i disagree with you. a HUMAN judge.



I hate to burst your bubble, pahunkboy, but you do realize that the judge in question has been 'shopping' out a demo tape to try to secure himself a contract as another TV judge in the pantheon of lame ass court TV show, correct?  And that a great amount of time was wasted, and tax payer dollars, don't forget that, while he rhapsodized about his own personal experiences, which had nothing to do with the court issue he was supposed to be dealing with... and that while that was happening, he had to be reminded that the corpse was rotting.


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

this is modern day shaksphere unfolding. 


No, Shakespearian theater was just that... theater.  It was fictional (and occasionally historical fiction) drama employed as an entertainment in the appropriate venue, a theater.  This is the hijacking of news channels, preventing their actual raison d'être, should not be viewed as entertaining but scandalous. 




news  [image]http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/premium.gif[/image]  [image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png[/image][image]http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif[/image]  /nuz, nyuz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nooz, nyooz] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun (usually used with a singular verb[image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png[/image])



1.
a report of a recent event; intelligence; information: His family has had no news of his whereabouts for months.



2.
the presentation of a report on recent or new events in a newspaper or other periodical or on radio or television.


Shakespearian Theater can be found on PBS or Fox, depending on whether you prefer intellectual entertainments or reality/exploitative 'talk-show' entertainments.





I informally announce a post of the day- I selected this to be the post of the day.
It is well thought out- and adresses urgent issues of our time.



pahunkboy -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 8:49:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: puella

Certainly, you may. 

For TV news I flip between the BBC, CNN, CSPAN and MSNBC, as well as one local news program for news more specific to my region. 

I had a bit of trouble understanding what else you were saying after you asked that, sorry pahunkboy ;)



In short, the wealthiest 1% control the globe. [hide under corporations, seldom photgraphed]  This group has no allegience to any nation or any flag. Their allegience is to wealth.


Among the 99% remainder of us- while some have impressive assets- we have not changed from the king/serf system.

If you upset teh status quo. you can loose your job, endless barrage of things can happen.

Face it- you are a peon. [as am I]

For commerical media- your sorta ok on your sources- lou dobbs- rocks.

BUT

democracy now- with amy goodman   http://www.democracynow.org/

free speech tv  http://www.freespeech.org/fscm2/genx.php?name=home

link tv 
http://www.worldlinktv.org/
indi media
are better sources.

=======both satilite providers offer these , Direct and Dish. OR check the sites podcasts.

Media is propoganda. US military uses propaganda. for instance voice of america, and drops of leaflets.

Would the US  propagandize their own people?

Lets ask Katrina    /snip



Rule -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 8:55:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied
I think the government probably approves and encourages anything in the news that takes the focus away from the middle east and casualties of war.
Quite. Most news is intended first as propaganda and only secondly as news. I once read an advice not to pay any attention to the news. I am gradually moving to that position. How does one benefit from watching or reading or listening to news? Usually not.



pahunkboy -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 9:08:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied
I think the government probably approves and encourages anything in the news that takes the focus away from the middle east and casualties of war.
Quite. Most news is intended first as propaganda and only secondly as news. I once read an advice not to pay any attention to the news. I am gradually moving to that position. How does one benefit from watching or reading or listening to news? Usually not.


if the average joe- truly could access partipation in our democracy- then news would be relevant. i have called, emailed, wrote my senitors and reps several times. BUT- i pick my fights carefully.
Many people have no idea who there rep is even.



canupleaseme -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 9:59:13 AM)

As a fellow news junkie I must agree thatthe state of thenews is saddening right now.
Im not very upon the ins and outs of the war, but it saddens me daily to see the suffering thats happening becasue of it and how its all been handled.

I find italsoshocking that on the news website the headline is Britney Spears latest crisis, and whilst i feel almost sorry for her, Its outrageous that the 4th item on the headlines, after other comparatively silly news, is that a 2 year oldbaby is raped and killed by her uncle!!!

We live in very sad times.

On lighter new note I found this yesterday on a bbc news website that made me chuckle cos it was so sweet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/6371901.stm?ls



NorthernGent -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 11:37:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: puella

What is wrong with us all?



In one respect, we're no different to our ancestors. The majority of the population are not political and never have been. Ok, voting levels are down by 20%ish in 30 years, but did most people really know what they were voting for? I'm sceptical.

Maybe it's different in the US, but in Britain most people have always been far more concerned with a beer, family, personal wealth and leisure activities. There has never been a time when the population has moved en masse for a cause. Yes, there were riots in the 17th, 18th, 19th centuries, but they were driven by personal aims - food being the primary one. The British Labour Party is the exception to the rule - it was bound by the common aims of working men and women.

In another respect we are different to our ancestors. The Western world has come a long way in 200 years. We have achieved what our ancestors could never have imagined in terms of universal suffrage (although today we have effectively been disenfranchised) and a considerable advance in our standard of living. In a nutshell, we don't have the same concerns (of substance) and, consequently, we can roam in the world of the superficial.

In conclusion, the majority of the population are not political and we have a high standard of living and the vote. It follows some people will spend their spare time charting the lives of celebrities. Next time you walk in a bookshop, have a look at the amount of books on serial killers - there are hundreds of the things with details from girlfriends, cars, how they used to pull the wings off flies etc. It's a strange world and one obsessed with fame and notoriety.




windchymes -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 11:51:19 AM)

The mass media only puts out what most people really want.



puella -> RE: Anna Nicole, Brittany.... a Sad Sign of Our Times (2/23/2007 12:11:42 PM)

Hello NorthernGent,

Thank you for a thoughtful reply.

I understand your assertion and agree with them on the whole.  However, there is a vast difference between the very general 'mass media' and the very specific news broadcast.  I have absolutely no problem with people charting the latest heart throb, or even their self immolation.  What I find objectionable is news outlets taking the day off from covering the most important and urgent NEWS of our day, and perhaps our generation, to cover a screwy kid singer shaving her head or a large breasted corps decomposing as a judge pontificates upon how he became a judge. 

There is a place for everything and a time for everything....and it was inappropriate on both counts to shut of real news to morph into entertainment tabloidism...in my opinion.



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