Stephann -> RE: Locking Up the Huddled Masses (2/24/2007 9:01:52 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Sanity No, really - if you hate being an American, you should try something else out. I can't imagine why all those people are trying so hard to get into such an awful place like this in the first place. Can you? While, like julia, I doubt this will have much of an affect, I would like to simply take a moment and thank you for encapsulating the modern ideals of America. As a citizen who has served in the Marines, lived in Okinawa Japan for three years, and has been in Latin America for the past three years, I envy your ability to make such a bald faced statement. That the world can be summed up into such simple statements such as "round em up and kill em" or "fuck them and their children" exemplifies the compassion and wisdom that the American People are capable of. I am jealous of the view, that America can be isolationistic and ignorant; while at the same time enforcing the will of the US on any other country it wishes to, in the name of commercial dominance. I think it would be far less expensive if we simply started unleashing our nuclear weapons on all those other pesky countries; after all, we can still pump oil from the ground, so long as the workers wear hardened radiation suits. And there won't be any silly wars or countries to interfere with us, eh? Stephan ========== My turn. American people, have a special birthright. IN 1917- some big shot-got a bullet put in his head. Setting off WW1, later ww2. Germany and Japan were seeking global domination. With out America [people, our fathers and grandfathers] Much of the world would be under an iron fist. We bailed out the worlds azz 2x. Therfore- we earned our standing Later generations will forget this. But the here and now- our kin folk saved the world. Hence- the American birthright. Got it? I would hate to burst the bubble, and say something to the effect that it was our fathers, grandfathers, and great grandfathers who fought those wars. It would even be scandalous to suggest that if there was any right to inflict our will on the rest of the world, it would have been there's; not ours. As it sits, your argument would be that just because your great great great granddaddy freed a slave, you have the right to claim their great great great grandchildren as slaves. It just isn't true. The United States was thrust into a position of power. We accepted it reluctantly. Our political powers have benefited in a huge way from this role as a global superpower. They have been quick to consolidate this power, and use it no different than a policeman can use his badge to coerce a woman into having sex against her will. I find it repugnant. The US was only able to achieve the power it has today, through it's compassionate use in the past. Our lack of compassion today, will bring us down the same path that the Soviet Union tread. That there is no major superpower to bring us to task, today, works against us, not for us; it would seem that, like Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan, the American people only seem to want revenge. If all we teach our children is to shoot a machine gun, it's a good bet on what their future employment will be. Stephan Edit: for jenny, Some situations would be resolved the way they resolve things in other countries; ship them to the appropriate countries embassy. For those seeking political asylum, I'm sure we could make use of a defunct military base, and provide adequate housing, shelter, and medicine. Bases are designed with security in mind; thus it needn't be turned into a 'refugee camp' i.e. families could be rather comfortable in the barracks rooms; after all, refugees don't show up with washing machines and kitchen sinks in hand. If their request for asylum is denied, we could give them a choice of other countries to go to. We would, of course, expect that those with the financial means to flee, do so at their own expense, at cost. At cost wouldn't need to be twice the price of a beach resort; it could mean just that, at cost. While this seems like a burden of expense to the public, it's wise to consider that inexpensive demonstrations of human compassion sow the seeds of future democracy. Turning away those who need and seek help the most, sows the seeds of future terrorisms, of boys growing up remembering that they asked for help from the 'Great United States' and were herded around a concentration style camp like cattle, before being delivered back into the hands of those who ultimately killed their fathers and raped their mothers. These concepts must be difficult to understand, considering the closest most people get to real political oppression is when they answer the phone, to hear a campaign worker soliciting donations. Stephan
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