Mercnbeth -> RE: Locking Up the Huddled Masses (2/24/2007 6:32:04 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Sanity Those web pages that you're referring everybody to aren't real news sites, and when you look them over carefully you'll see that they are obviously extremely biased. Anyone can make a web page, and anyone can make a recording.- and so, anyone with half a mind won't believe a thing that's said or written on either one of those sites, because odds are it's all completely bogus "news". quote:
ORIGINAL: juliaoceania I thought this was an interesting article about how we are locking up immigrants into tent cities... some of them applying for political assylum, some of them undocumented. We are locking up entire families, and these are basically prisons in which parents cannot have access to their children at night. http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=628f948c767d51b91f4157dda2a64da9 Today's Democracy Now had a show interviewing some of these detainees, one family happened to be unlucky enoug to be on a plane that had an emergency landing for a heart patient, they were detained because they lacked an American visa and they are Iranian http://www.democracynow.org/ Sanity, Glad you also noted that the source is a little left of Pravda. However, taking it as fact, considering that there are by the most conservative estimates 4 Million criminals, aka "illegal aliens" currently in the county, it would appear that they are stretching to make a point. Look at the numbers from the article: quote:
Thanks to the DHS' Operation Reservation Guaranteed, the number of immigrants in detention has risen from 18,000 when the operation was launched in July 2006, to 25,000 by the end of September. President Bush's budget for 2007 includes funds to increase detention bed space by 25 percent. The point is a meaningless and the number detained compared to the number of law breakers currently in the county. Since they are not US citizens they are not entitled to US constitutional protection. The children born here are another matter. The born in the USA equating to citizenship is a byproduct of the Civil War. It was a way of making children of slaves citizens. It should be removed from the books. I believe, but maybe wrong, no other country offers any other short cut to citizenship. Its a pity that some people are ashamed of their county due to it enforcing their borders and laws. I don't think it is in support of anarchy and lawlessness; but pragmatically what else can the argument be? Fight to change the law. We in the process of making many things legal and illegal on the basis of "good intentions". This issue has support from both sides of the political aisle; which should tell you something right there. They are both in the pockets of the employers exploiting these people. Both parties are pushing for some form of amnesty to continue the exploitation. This is a very simple problem to solve. Enforce the existing employer laws. ALL enforcement at the employer level with the only consequence of an illegal being caught deportation - at the expense of the employer, times 2 as a fine. End of illegal immigration. ] These "hard working" people need to work hard in and for their own county.
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