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amlonging -> an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 1:38:02 PM)

I now understand why girls are so reluctant and why couples cannot find their third .... It is not the girls but the couples and dominant women. 
I have a totally NEW appreciation for the stuff these girls go through.
Yes, I am aware there are gamers and wankers, fakes and online uber sluts, but you know what?  I truly don’t believe that is the intention of 98% of gals. 

Good luck couples. When you write things like this in your journal or profile ….. “Why must the search for the serious ones always have to be so long and tedious. I have always been one to realize that nothing good comes easy, but DAMN. Just to find someone that is serious and true to themselves first would be a feat. Ah well....One Day it will happen."  ….. the lowly submissives/slaves, if they are healthy, know why you cannot find another.  It is your approach, your belittling, your impossible demands, your arrogance or just your personality.

Hugs to all you girls who so desire but only find what I have today.... may I make a suggestion?  Don’t find a couple.  Find your own Dom/me.  Be careful though.  Know yourself, know your needs, be strong and courageous for a healthy submissive is not a doormat to be treated the way you girls have been.

A genuine submissive is healthy and has a strong self esteem and doesn’t mind telling someone off respectfully....  yes girls, even I still learn.  But you don’t need to take crap from people who turn your dreams to smoke upon first contact.

I think so many “older folk,”  you know, the ones who call themselves experienced, in this lifestyle, just do not realize or care to understand what you girls go through to find someone who is compatible not only emotionally, but mentally, socially and yes sexually. 

Some of you like being property, dehumanized , devalued, dismissed.  But you ARE a beautiful creation, made for a purpose and very special in your own right.
Some of you beg and cry out to be special and treated that way. Giving your submission to someone who is totally into you and not all about themselves and their dominance.

Some of you have had encounters with arrogant, self absorbed people that call themselves dominants, but  I simply refuse to believe that dominants should be that way. 
There is a difference between self absorbed self centered arrogance and self confidence.  You can tell on first contact.   Just like they can tell if you a cringing girl with low self esteem.  They will rip you to shreds.

BDSM, D/s and M/s to some people in WIITWD is all about sex and their needs.  Do not fool yourselves.
D/s to others can be a very beautiful relationship where the submissive is considered as much apart of the D/s dynamic as the dominant.
Look at the strong submissives….  Why are they strong, why do they stand up for themselves?  They are NOT submissive to the world, but to their special one.

I have been in several different kinds of relationship and I would take what I have now way above what I had before.  He is into me and thus has received my respect and trust, and I have found it easier to give him control freely, more than ever before.

This might be a rant of sorts… but I just want to hug every girl out there who is really looking, genuine and feel as if you have something incredibly special to give.
Don’t be cynical, is it rude and disrespectful.
Don’t be disrespectful, it is only a reflection of your heart.
Be better than the dominants who tell you “kneel bitch.”
Be better than the dominant who tries to push you around with how insignificant you are to them.
Be strong and courageous !! 

Olivia Newton John has a CD out called GRACE AND GRATITUDE, might I suggest you purchase it and absorb EVERY word.

Finally,  the following words can be yours in D/s, M/s
You move your hand across my back
You trace your hand across my cheek
And all is said though we never speak

To be wanted
To want
I want to be wanted
To want

I move my hand
Across your hair
I trace my hand
across your lips
and all I need is to need like this....

Let it be so
Whither thou go
My heart will follow
Just a stones throw
Into your soul
Beyond today beyond tomorrow...

When angels dream of the perfect kiss
They want to be wanted
To want
I want to be wanted
To want
To be wanted
To want

Anne and Anna… I love you.  I am doing my best on your behalf.

In grace and gratitude, Sir Tim’s girl




SilentHunter -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 1:46:17 PM)

You are so right with that rant, or call it what you will, if someone looks for something easy, then i can put money on it not working otu as smoothly as t hey would like it to be, I rarely post much on boards, but i do read alot, and this one, unlike many do make sense. Bravo and continue.

SH




ShiftedJewel -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 2:02:31 PM)

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Hugs to all you girls who so desire but only find what I have today.... may I make a suggestion?  Don’t find a couple.  Find your own Dom/me.  Be careful though.  Know yourself, know your needs, be strong and courageous for a healthy submissive is not a doormat to be treated the way you girls have been.


Thank you for that huge generalization and vote of confidence.
 
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I think so many “older folk,”  you know, the ones who call themselves experienced, in this lifestyle, just do not realize or care to understand what you girls go through to find someone who is compatible not only emotionally, but mentally, socially and yes sexually.


Gosh, I'm one of those "older folk" that calls themself "experienced". And not only do I fully understand what some of those girls (and guys for that matter) go through cuz' guess what??? We go through it too. Do you honestly believe that dominants of either gender don't go through the long search to find someone that is mentally, emotionally, intellectually, socially and sexually compatible??? That submissives and slaves are the only ones hurt in the process??
 
Yes, there are a lot of players out there, a lot of people that call themselves dominant when predator would be a better description, but there are just as many out there that call themselves sub/slave that could fall under the same catagory. Then you have the weekend warriors that are just looking for jerk off material when they didn't have anything else to do on a Saturday night. How about the ones that are looking for a meal ticket? I could go on and on and tell you a little about life on THIS side of the kneel but knowing my fellow posters I would be preaching to the choir.

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Some of you have had encounters with arrogant,


I know I just have.
 
Jewel




valeca -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 2:15:54 PM)

There are several things I either don't understand or disagree with in the OP.

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It is not the girls but the couples and dominant women. 

Can you clarify this please?  Why are Dominant women singled out but not Dominant men?

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Don’t find a couple.

Why?  A couple is exactly what some are looking for.  There are examples of Couples-with-a-third on these boards who appear to have happy, healthy relationships.  EDIT:  Heh, Jewel, Scooter and twice were amoung the first to come to mind when I wrote this.  Thank you, Jewel, for making an entrance at just the right moment!

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A genuine submissive is healthy

There are plenty of submissives whose health isn't at its best.  Should they just cast aside that part of themselves?  A submissive with cancer isn't a genuine submissive?

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Some of you have had encounters with arrogant, self absorbed people that call themselves dominants,

Encounters with arrogant, self-obsorbed people aren't confined to the world of BDSM, and they aren't strictly from Dominants.

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There is a difference between self absorbed self centered arrogance and self confidence.  You can tell on first contact.

How exactly?  Some of the most charismatic people turn out to be sociopaths.

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BDSM, D/s and M/s to some people in WIITWD is all about sex and their needs.

While I understand the underlying point you were making here, this is true of any relationship.  Relationships are about fulfilling needs (be they social, familial, finacial, emotional, sexual, etc.)  There are also the people who enjoy focusing on someone else's needs, and by doing so, fulfill their own.  WIITWD can be about fulfilling our needs no matter which side of the slash we're on.

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This might be a rant of sorts… but I just want to hug every girl out there who is really looking, genuine and feel as if you have something incredibly special to give.

Truly, I believe you have good intentions with your post, even if I can't agree with all of it.  I'm sure the hug is appreciated nonetheless, and just maybe it helped brighten someone's day.















ShiftedJewel -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 2:24:34 PM)

((((((((((((((((( valeca ))))))))))))))))))))




valeca -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 2:27:20 PM)

[:)]
Thanks, Jewel!  My regards to You and Yours.




Emperor1956 -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 2:28:39 PM)

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ShiftedJewel: 
Thank you for that huge generalization and vote of confidence.  [snip]


I agree with SJ entirely in this post.  That's it, people.  Its all over.  Everyone outta the pool!   Chicken little was right, the Four Horsemen are about 11 minutes away and there are penguins living in Hell.

E




LaTigresse -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 2:31:26 PM)

amlonging, I just have one thing to say about this thread...you, are full of shit.




sublizzie -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 2:34:11 PM)

I have a feeling that your intent is good but the wording comes across badly. There are fakers and players on both sides of the slash, mostly because this is all about people. Some people are honest and exactly how they present themselves on-line. Some people are not. Some are sincere; some are not. Trying to find someone, whether in this particular lifestyle or not, takes time and patience while you weed through the ones who don't fit. Sometimes they are wonderful people, but not what you need in your life. Unfortunately, that's life whether it's in the big city or out in the boondocks. Finding someone to be connected with is difficult.




Elegant -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 2:41:13 PM)

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A genuine submissive is healthy and has a strong self esteem and doesn’t mind telling someone off respectfully


Genu Wine is on the shelf right beside the Boones Farm Wine.




Zsuzsanna -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 3:29:27 PM)

Thanks for your words. You are so very right. I am one of those girls who is really looking. (albeit not very hard at the moment) And it is not easy to find what you are looking for. But sometimes great things come in unexpected packages.




mnottertail -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 3:55:23 PM)

what is you am longing about?  It is difficult enough to imbue clarity but I gotta say the befuddlement that surrounds this post is truely gem quality.


MrJeweler 




amlonging -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 4:18:52 PM)

There are several things I either don't understand or disagree with in the OP.

I really do not care if you disagree, or say I am full of shit lady tiger….. This came from my heart and nothing will make me ashamed of it, NO ONE!! And maybe I am full of shit, so what.  I own my own feelings and opinions.

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It is not the girls but the couples and dominant women. 

Can you clarify this please?  Why are Dominant women singled out but not Dominant men?

It’s called female supremacy and the attitude that comes with it.  Have you seen any mention of male supremacy?

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Don’t find a couple.

Why?  A couple is exactly what some are looking for.  There are examples of Couples-with-a-third on these boards who appear to have happy, healthy relationships.  EDIT:  Heh, Jewel, Scooter and twice were amoung the first to come to mind when I wrote this.  Thank you, Jewel, for making an entrance at just the right moment!

Yes Scooter and Jewel are awesome examples of poly…they make it work and I have read plenty of forums from them in regards to it.  Even though Jewel spoke her mind to me, I do not feel the same toward her nor Scooter.
Why?  Because some girls come here, thinking they want a couple for many reasons and from my experience in being part of couple then looking (for 2 yrs) for a third (tis how Anne and Anna were found along with jess and becca and emilee and others) they seem to not understand the dynamics of what they really want.  I was set to finding the third like many MANY sub/slaves on here are doing and found that many ladies just didn’t realize they were going to have to share, be a beta as well as find something they might or might not want.  
Many ladies on here are longing…read the title… open letter to those who are LONGING.

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A genuine submissive is healthy

There are plenty of submissives whose health isn't at its best.  Should they just cast aside that part of themselves?  A submissive with cancer isn't a genuine submissive?

Healthy is NOT referring to physical health. Yaldah Tovah, M.D  has written about the healthy and unhealthy submissive…. http://www.submissivewomenspeak.net/healthysub.htm
I am very empathetic and sympathetic toward the unhealthy sub, been there, done that and if I can help just one, I would find a bit of joy in my corner of the universe.   Thing is, most emotionally unhealthy people do NOT even realize it.  Been there done that.
If folk take offense at my open letter, it is their right.  If others want to see some truth to it, so be it.

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Some of you have had encounters with arrogant, self absorbed people that call themselves dominants,

Encounters with arrogant, self-obsorbed people aren't confined to the world of BDSM, and they aren't strictly from Dominants.

You are correct.  But the nilla world about us is not about a control and authority exchange where as in WIITWD there is.  Power, control, domination can do weird things to peoples minds, hearts and souls if they let it. 

quote:

There is a difference between self absorbed self centered arrogance and self confidence.  You can tell on first contact.

How exactly?  Some of the most charismatic people turn out to be sociopaths.

Correct, once again you are correct.   

quote:

BDSM, D/s and M/s to some people in WIITWD is all about sex and their needs.

While I understand the underlying point you were making here, this is true of any relationship.  Relationships are about fulfilling needs (be they social, familial, finacial, emotional, sexual, etc.)  There are also the people who enjoy focusing on someone else's needs, and by doing so, fulfill their own.  WIITWD can be about fulfilling our needs no matter which side of the slash we're on.

Correct again.  But in relationships, the sexual aspect is not always the driving force. In BDSM if a D does not connect in some way with an s on the sexual side, compatibility is not there.  There are so many other layers to connect on, even in BDSM.  There is also the emotional, the social, the psychological, philosophical and spiritual.  If  my need is to be cared for as a prized possession and all I hear is,  “find me a fucking slut or else”…. How is that meeting my need as an s.  If his need is to fuck a new sub every week because I found her for him and I am left as an option, and not finding his need,  how is that meeting his need if I am received with, damn you girl, “you are being his pimp.”  That is neither meeting his need nor is it meeting my need to me healthy.  Needs in WIITWD DO have other goals than sex. 
I can probably say that Scooter and Jewel and other successful poly and or swinging couples, have other needs met by their SO than just sex.  Tis what makes their relationship healthy. 
A new sub or an unhealthy sub will think she is some unworthy slut because she cannot meet the D’s needs.  Not true.  They simply are incompatible. If it is difficult to be compatible with one person, being compatible with 2 (couple) at the same time, is even more taxing.  Those who find it and make it work are definitely blessed to be sure.

quote:

This might be a rant of sorts… but I just want to hug every girl out there who is really looking, genuine and feel as if you have something incredibly special to give.

Truly, I believe you have good intentions with your post, even if I can't agree with all of it.  I'm sure the hug is appreciated nonetheless, and just maybe it helped brighten someone's day.

My intentions were to hurt no one but simply to poor out my heart to those ladies who are still longing.  Everyone can interpret my post as they like. 




amlonging -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 4:22:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

what is you am longing about?  It is difficult enough to imbue clarity but I gotta say the befuddlement that surrounds this post is truely gem quality.


MrJeweler 


Diamonds were once carbon !!
Pearls were once oysters !!
Roses were once nothing but a seed in dirt !!




mnottertail -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 4:31:21 PM)

Time--Time--Time--- see what's become of me?








ownedgirlie -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 4:34:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Time--Time--Time--- see what's become of me?


(just dedicate your sorrow....here and now....)

great song :)




littleone35 -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 4:40:38 PM)

I do agree with the op on one big point it is great to have a Master/ Mistress that is into you.  I was licky to find that because i am so into him. 

I disagree with the point about arrogance i thougt my Master was very arrogant wehn i first talked to him on the phone but i decided to give him a chance.  I am glad i did he is the best thing in my life.

I say give them a chance it could be nerves on their part as well that is making them act that way.

Matt's littleone






mnottertail -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 4:43:13 PM)

This  one goes out to all them heart stabbing bitches that decided that I should have known they were fucking somebody else by dint of their hint of changing the color of their nail polish, this one goes out to all the other girls that wanted to be my friend, this one goes out to all the girls who have ever had a headache---

This one goes out to all the girls I've loved before---

Julio Eglaisias




ShiftedJewel -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 4:44:21 PM)

amlonging,
 
To quote someone here, all you have to do is highlight the text you want to quote, right click on it and choose "copy" then click on the "quote" button in the reply box and paste what you copied between the two ][. Really, it will make reading your replies so much easier.
 
Jewel

edited because I forgot a step in that process. oops




amlonging -> RE: an open letter to all my younger "sisters" who remain longing (2/27/2007 4:51:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

amlonging,
 
To quote someone here, all you have to do is highlight the text you want to quote, right click on it and chose "copy" then click on the "quote" button in the reply box and paste what you copied between the two ][. Really, it will make reading your replies so much easier.
 
Jewel


Thank you Jewel.  I do know this.  Am sorry it complicated the reading.  It was just easier for me to put it to WORD.  I will not need to post much longer.  I am leaving soon




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