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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 2/28/2007 7:16:14 PM   
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You will be held partially at fault in any State. If you weren't there the accident wouldn't have happened.

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 2/28/2007 7:16:34 PM   
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Nope, didn't miss anything here.  Remember the semi came out of no-where.  LOL Yep it wasn't already on the road and he just didn't miss it?  He was totally observent of his surroundings. 

Hes reaching looking for the free ride sounds like, since its now the stores fault for having a bad driveway?  If you don't like it don't shop there. 

Heres another one I've heard that didn't go anywhere.  Try sueing the state for not maintaining the roads properly in the middle of a snow storm.  That should take you to about the same conclusion. 

I'm sorry but when ever I have seen you on here but you have been whinning about your life.  Take responcibility for it.  Your land lord has the right at the end of your lease to raise your rent, the semi did not just appear out of nowhere, it came from somewhere.  If you don't like the enterence to the store don't shop there, you can't go after them for negligance because your not aware of whats going on around you.  Your insurance company only has to provide you with what coverage and options you paid for.  If you didn't pay for rental coverage, and its not just a gimme, you don't get it. 

Good luck with the house thing, they need repairs and utilities are not fixed, they are going up up and up there too.  Who ya going to blame for that one?  Going to try and sue the previous owner for it?  I can see the next threads coming already.  Grow up and take responciblity for your life.

Gardenia

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/1/2007 6:50:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterG333

I used to drive tractor-trailer. MOST are very safe drivers. your opinion that truck drivers these days are not professional simply is not true. Truck drivers average 1oo,ooo miles a year and if they are not safe,they simply do not last. There are,of course,newbies,or just plain bad drivers,but they are in the extreme minority. Good luck. BTW: you say it was his fault and the store's fault. you were 100% innocent?


Truck Driver traffic is increased 75% from 1990 to 2000.  thats alot of trucks. Todays big trucking companies push thier drivers to the max. US shot itslef in foot by turning evrerything into semi hauling- dumping much train transit.

lucky for me- it wasn't a truck originating from MEXICO!  :-)

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/1/2007 6:53:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gardenia100

Nope, didn't miss anything here.  Remember the semi came out of no-where.  LOL Yep it wasn't already on the road and he just didn't miss it?  He was totally observent of his surroundings. 

Hes reaching looking for the free ride sounds like, since its now the stores fault for having a bad driveway?  If you don't like it don't shop there. 

Heres another one I've heard that didn't go anywhere.  Try sueing the state for not maintaining the roads properly in the middle of a snow storm.  That should take you to about the same conclusion. 

I'm sorry but when ever I have seen you on here but you have been whinning about your life.  Take responcibility for it.  Your land lord has the right at the end of your lease to raise your rent, the semi did not just appear out of nowhere, it came from somewhere.  If you don't like the enterence to the store don't shop there, you can't go after them for negligance because your not aware of whats going on around you.  Your insurance company only has to provide you with what coverage and options you paid for.  If you didn't pay for rental coverage, and its not just a gimme, you don't get it. 

Good luck with the house thing, they need repairs and utilities are not fixed, they are going up up and up there too.  Who ya going to blame for that one?  Going to try and sue the previous owner for it?  I can see the next threads coming already.  Grow up and take responciblity for your life.

Gardenia


Fair enuff. No offense taken.

Instead of winning- I must stay focussed and take strategic steps. I tend to sidetrack-

Well- Im off to the realtor to sign papers.  Hugs to all. :-)

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/1/2007 7:03:31 AM   
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quote:

You will be held partially at fault in any State. If you weren't there the accident wouldn't have happened.


What are you talking about?   Sometimes it's entirely one driver's fault.


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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/1/2007 10:40:35 PM   
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Yep, yep...I was rear ended today, see what happens when I offer advice and am out unsupervised?  I had a yield and had to stop to let the passing traffic pass and some guy came up behind me and didn't stop.  I was completely correct to be stopped (very short ramp) and the other guy was not paying full attention, not my fault at all.

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/1/2007 10:52:16 PM   
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Back in 94 I was rear-ended by an semi in Texas.  My poor little VW Scirrocco had no back end after that.  Had to go to physical therapy and all that.  Truck insurance company didn't do anything, so, I got a lawyer.  7 months later I got a pretty nice check.  Not a huge one, wasn't smiling on a TV commercial for an ambulance chaser.  But enough to at least numb the frustration. 

If you don't think the insurance company is being fair, don't sign a thing, get a lawyer.  It's the American way.

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 2:30:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Actually I don't know a lot, just the common sense stuff.  Communicate only to your insurance company, forward anything from the other driver's insurance company to your insurance company.  And an accident report will not always save you.  I was in an accident where the other driver accepted responsibility, it was written into the report, a few weeks later she recanted saying she "bumped her head and didn't remember taking responsibility."  The police took it to the magistrate, the insurance companies went into arbitration.  My car was repaired immediately, but it took months in arbitration before everything was sorted out.  


OMG- i DO have some stuff to frwd. Thnaks for this great advice!!!

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 2:33:23 PM   
pahunkboy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterG333

I used to drive tractor-trailer. MOST are very safe drivers. your opinion that truck drivers these days are not professional simply is not true. Truck drivers average 1oo,ooo miles a year and if they are not safe,they simply do not last. There are,of course,newbies,or just plain bad drivers,but they are in the extreme minority. Good luck. BTW: you say it was his fault and the store's fault. you were 100% innocent?


trucking companies run these guys to hard.  the roads are over burdened. the trucker of the 80s is NOT the courteous dudes of  today.  CDLs are valuable- they better have done a urine test on the guy.

am i 100% innocent?   unlikely.


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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 2:58:26 PM   
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Pahunk you worry me...first we nearly lose you when a fridge door mounts an unprovoked attack now a high speed Tractor nearly takes.you when you least expected it.Concentrate my son concentrate. !!!

Word of advice...dont try to fix the TV aerial (antenna)

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 3:00:49 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

servant4use
You will be held partially at fault in any State. If you weren't there the accident wouldn't have happened.


What are you talking about?   Sometimes it's entirely one driver's fault.


I think thats called irony KL irony....OK ?

< Message edited by seeksfemslave -- 3/15/2007 3:02:43 PM >

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 3:20:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Pahunk you worry me...first we nearly lose you when a fridge door mounts an unprovoked attack now a high speed Tractor nearly takes.you when you least expected it.Concentrate my son concentrate. !!!

Word of advice...dont try to fix the TV aerial (antenna)



LMAO!   Thanks!  :-)

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 3:25:52 PM   
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PA - if you cant get the cctv tape from the store, try the next best thing - and I am assuming here that the same sort of thing applies in the US regarding trucks as applies in Europe.

In Europe, trucks over a certain size (and definitely semi trailer trucks) have to be fitted with a tachograph machine. This records onto a paper chart the speed of the truck throughout the day, the times it is being driven and for how long. Using this chart, it is easy to see whether the truck was driving over the speed limit at the time of the accident, and/or whether the driver had been at the wheel for too long (again assuming that in the US there are drivers' hours regulations), either of which could be useful to you in proving negligence - both of which should the driver have been within the law, the truck company would I am sure provide to you readily to put you off - meaning that if this chart is available and shows breach of regulations/laws, they are not going to want you to see it, though should all this be in place in the US then its for sure that for the moment the police will have these charts to analyse themselves regarding the accident with a view to prosecution in the case of breaches.

Alternatively, and far better, we now have in Europe a digital tachograph implementation. The new machines do not use paper charts to produce records, but instead produce a digital record which can be downloaded. Same principles apply. I could check for you if it comes to it, as to whether these machines also record braking etc.

Also relevant could be the maintenance records for the truck, which might show for instance that it had not been serviced in the required period, and thus maybe give you a shot at showing that for instance, the brakes might have been defective, the tyres needed replacing etc. Also maybe relevant - was the trailer loaded at the time, and if so to what weight? if it were overloaded for its design or legally approved payload then this would have a definite effect on its ability to stop in time, if thats an issue here. Any innocent trucking company would be happy to provide you with all this information to prove their innocence I'm sure - otherwise I'd have thought a decent lawyer could force disclosure of it.

But in closing, I'll just say that in Europe at least, the vast majority of the guys (and a few gals) that drive these rigs as a job are outstanding individuals. They drive for up to ten hours a day, and do another four or five hours other work on top of that every day too. They have to put up with being away from their homes and families for weeks at a time often, and are working to deadlines in often difficult conditions in a way that not many others will ever know. Having travelled across Europe on two occasions as a passenger in the cab with drivers, I know for sure that I couldnt do their job, and having spent nearly 20 years around them I can say that with very few exceptions they are true professionals who would never do anything that might affect their careers.

E





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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 3:38:53 PM   
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Lady E: you disappear and then post as tho' you are the original Urban Space woman.
Do you need a good rub down ?

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 3:56:08 PM   
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Lady E: you disappear and then post as tho' you are the original Urban Space woman.
Do you need a good rub down ?



Best offer so far today. There is an hour to go though.

E

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 3:57:49 PM   
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You might be better off dealing directly with the other insurance company.  If you do not have collision coverage, then they might not do much.  From what I've heard, Liberty Mutual is a decent company.  If you had Lizardesque insurance, you'd really be up a creek. 

However, if Liberty is going to go to bat for you, it will probably end up in subrogation, which means that they will determine the amount of liability for each party, and decide awards from there.  Did the police determine who is at fault?  When did Pennsylvania become a no-fault state?   You should be able to get a rental from the other party's insurance while they are having your vehicle repaired.  The advice to hold off on settling as long as you can is good advice.  You should wait till you are absolutely certain, and don't let them bully you.   I've been taking classes in insurance, so I know a bit. 




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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 4:35:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

PA - if you cant get the cctv tape from the store, try the next best thing - and I am assuming here that the same sort of thing applies in the US regarding trucks as applies in Europe.

In Europe, trucks over a certain size (and definitely semi trailer trucks) have to be fitted with a tachograph machine. This records onto a paper chart the speed of the truck throughout the day, the times it is being driven and for how long. Using this chart, it is easy to see whether the truck was driving over the speed limit at the time of the accident, and/or whether the driver had been at the wheel for too long (again assuming that in the US there are drivers' hours regulations), either of which could be useful to you in proving negligence - both of which should the driver have been within the law, the truck company would I am sure provide to you readily to put you off - meaning that if this chart is available and shows breach of regulations/laws, they are not going to want you to see it, though should all this be in place in the US then its for sure that for the moment the police will have these charts to analyse themselves regarding the accident with a view to prosecution in the case of breaches.

Alternatively, and far better, we now have in Europe a digital tachograph implementation. The new machines do not use paper charts to produce records, but instead produce a digital record which can be downloaded. Same principles apply. I could check for you if it comes to it, as to whether these machines also record braking etc.

Also relevant could be the maintenance records for the truck, which might show for instance that it had not been serviced in the required period, and thus maybe give you a shot at showing that for instance, the brakes might have been defective, the tyres needed replacing etc. Also maybe relevant - was the trailer loaded at the time, and if so to what weight? if it were overloaded for its design or legally approved payload then this would have a definite effect on its ability to stop in time, if thats an issue here. Any innocent trucking company would be happy to provide you with all this information to prove their innocence I'm sure - otherwise I'd have thought a decent lawyer could force disclosure of it.

But in closing, I'll just say that in Europe at least, the vast majority of the guys (and a few gals) that drive these rigs as a job are outstanding individuals. They drive for up to ten hours a day, and do another four or five hours other work on top of that every day too. They have to put up with being away from their homes and families for weeks at a time often, and are working to deadlines in often difficult conditions in a way that not many others will ever know. Having travelled across Europe on two occasions as a passenger in the cab with drivers, I know for sure that I couldnt do their job, and having spent nearly 20 years around them I can say that with very few exceptions they are true professionals who would never do anything that might affect their careers.


Ok- ty.

I have 3 letters to mail out. i am in action as of NOW.  with out going into specifics- the screwer- aint going to be happy.
once i get into gear- i can play hardball. fair, but firm.

Thanks to all the replies on this.

I have filled out some forms and think I have it all covered for now.

My brain is my best muscle.

as long as teh apple cart is upset, FREE apples for all!!!!

yay!!!


BIG HUGS to ALL!!!!

:-)

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 5:18:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Yesderday- I headed out for a latte, very close to house. I had the free coupon.

/out of nowhere- smashh. the dude was mad at me.  police/ambulance/extracation/ER

here I am no car. I dont know PA traffic law- tho it is a "no fault state."

It certainly did not help my existing injury.

Does anyone know PA law?

My insurance is Liberty Mutual.
I did not have collission. 

Truckdrivers  are rather unprofessional these days. This cant happen now! But it did. I am looking for the local paper. Scanner listening is big here.

I did not have collision.

Please reply- per advice.  I made a few calls to see if I can get folks to offer rides. we have no bus here.  The cab company hours are 9-5????

When is it a convenient time to have a car acccident? lol.

As a rule I dislike insurance companies.

In any event- anyones experience/knoldge- the good the bad the ugly. on board or off.
Thanks all!


(Gawdammit....it's like rain ain't it?)

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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 5:43:57 PM   
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LOL- well- I have accepted my share of the responsabily.  paid in FULL.

now- the axe comes down. for the knuckleheads- that skirted consumer law.

free apples for all!!!


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RE: Tractor Trailer, totalled my car/ !!! - 3/15/2007 5:51:12 PM   
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I think thats called irony KL irony....OK ?


Oopsie, my bad!  


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