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LotusSong -> Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 3:05:42 AM)

Gentlemen-
 
What is your technique you use to attain this situation?
 
(and no.. I manage my own orgasms quite nicely thankyouverymuch :)




BrainSlugs83 -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 5:30:02 AM)

After the sub has been going at it a while you could announce a time limit (45 seconds?) -- if they can't get it done before the time's up, well they can try again tomorrow... maybe... if they're good.

They almost always need 5 seconds more, if you really do want them to finish, you can play the "one and three quarters" game when time gets close, but don't be too lienient or it won't work next time, at all.

It's not "on command", but it's the next best thing, IMO, and it's fun anyway.




catize -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 5:37:17 AM)

The first dominat who did this to me (the bastard! <grins>) got me right there and commanded me to count to ten before I could cum.  I started counting and he started laughing, ordered me to "slow down!" and I had to start over.........I managed it but it was close!




justfortheforums -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 5:49:51 AM)

I am not a Master but was trained by one to do this. I never even knew what hit me.  Master and I had an LDR for the first few months.  He would call me every night and talk about everything and anything.  Then he would just stop and say my name in  a different voice and ask me if I wanted to cum for him.  He would tell me what he was going to do to me when he saw me again and then he would just whisper "cum for me, baby."  We did this over and over again for weeks.  One day he called me during the day.  I was at lunch just sitting at the beach soaking up the noon sunshine.  As soon as I answered the phone..he said my name in that voice and my legs began shaking...he said "cum for me baby."  I did right there on the beach in full daylight with people around and my phone pressed against my ear.  He was elated.  The next time I met with him in person...we were on an elevator and he stepped up to me and whispered those words...I orgasmed many times.  He never touched me or I myself.  It was amazing...smiles...I sure miss him.




BrainSlugs83 -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 6:45:19 AM)

Wow, that's a handi trick!  I want to learn it! [:)]




Stephann -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 7:35:57 AM)

I tacked this onto the 'Orgasm Control' thread a couple weeks ago. 

My experiences have been that orgasms are a product of the mind, the body is little more than a prop to permit it.  The same can be said for a burst of adrenaline, too though; we can't just 'will' ourselves to get an adrenaline rush, there must be some sort of unconscious stimulus.

For submissives, a combination of 'permission' and 'expectation' of orgasm can often be a trigger for orgasm (thus one or the other, or both, can be key elements in orgasm control.)  I've been involved with two women who were able to orgasm 'on command' without any physical stimulation of the clitoris or vagina, and one girl who required no physical stimulation at all.  Knowing that the source of the orgasm is between our ears, not our legs, illustrates the means by which orgasm control, or 'orgasm on command' becomes possible.

The technique I used to teach orgasm control is relatively simple.  It requires the woman to masturbate for me.  While she does, I'm talking to her, whispering in her ear.  As she becomes very close to orgasming, literally on the brink, I demand she come for me.  At that moment, I grab her hand hands by the wrists, and pull them away from her body.  She's been given the command to orgasm, is very close to it, and then restrained; the orgasm usually comes right away.  The key, is that she is experiencing that first orgasm, without genital manipulation.  Certainly, she was brought 'to' that point, but as most men will know, it usually requires a physical push to actually achieve orgasm i.e. physical contact.  Doing this two or three times helps to enforce the assertion of authority, usually by a regular routine of words, statements, commands, etc.  I usually rely on "Come now!" 

The next step is to have the girl masturbate as before, but instead of manipulating her vagina, she manipulates her nipples.  I'll also touch her in a few places, maybe slapping her clitoris or rubbing it a little, but only early on to help with the arousal.  Talking to her is crucial at this point, so relating a fantasy or talking about something she finds exciting makes it easier.  There's no real rush, but usually in five to ten minutes, it should be obvious that she's coming close to the brink.  At that point I might grab her by the hair, and tell her to beg to come.  When she does, I hold back a bit, making her beg more, telling her to squeeze her nipples harder.  I also tell her (and this is important) to squeeze her Kegel muscles and picture me being inside of her in her mind as she does it.  As this part of the fantasy grows in her head, that's when I demand she orgasm, again still squeezing her nipples to provide some sensation.  This orgasm might be easier or harder to achieve, so your mileage may vary.  Once it has, it shows the girl she has the ability to orgasm without her clitoris or vagina being involved   Repeat two or three times as necessary over a few days.

The last step differs only slightly from the second; it's the same deal, except she's not permitted to touch anything.  I might put the wrists into bondage, and tell her to 'try' to touch.  A spreader bar would be a nice addition, but bondage plays a role here because it permits her muscles to strain (something that is usually necessary to achieve orgasm under any circumstances.)  By this point, the triggers for the orgasm are firmly lodged between her ears, not her legs, and should be relatively easy to control.  After this has happened a few times, the instruction to orgasm on command becomes rather simple to receive; she only requires the space and time to achieve it, usually in the span of a minute or two.  I don't recommend using this in public places, and I do encourage the top to be aggressive in their demands for the 'type' of orgasm desired, i.e. if powerful orgasms are expected, they will need to be demanded, each and every time.  Putting the submissive in a position where they cannot move, cannot cry out, can not really be seen to be orgasming (church, supermarket, mom and dad's house, school, etc) would be a quick way to turn this into a torture; but in making it torture, the enthusiasm the sub has for the activity may very well dwindle.  Use with care, and enjoy. 

Stephan




fairerthanshe -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 7:55:13 AM)

Greetings Master Stephann,

Damn Your good!  this girl had three just reading it...[;)]

well wishes,
fairer




Stephann -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 8:36:18 AM)

fairer,

You're most welcome.[;)]

Stephan




kattarina -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 9:47:22 AM)

Hey everyone,

This is an article that i read a few weeks ago on the subject written by BaadMaster.



Cumming On Command

One of the most enduring legends in BDSM is that of a Master whose slave can cum on his verbal command -- without even touching herself! Even when the Master is thousands of miles away and the voice command is given by telephone. (I do not think a man can cum without being touched; that aside, everything else in this article applies to male subs too.)

Although I have never trained any submissive to cum at a distance, nor have I witnessed it, where there’s smoke there’s fire. Tales of long distance Cumming on voice command are so ubiquitous, that I must conclude it can be done. Although, not by me - yet.

As one who leaves no stone unturned, I have researched the training methods of those Masters who claimed to have accomplished this feat. The theory of "cum on command" is based on conventional behavior conditioning theory. Basically, the object is to link a key word, phrase or physical signal with the onset of orgasm. The absence of this word or gesture makes orgasm impossible while the word or motion itself causes the submissive to orgasm upon hearing or seeing it. This word or phrase, in theory, spoken over the telephone would cause the sub to climax. This is one impressive feat. More impressive even than Cirque de Soleil!

Some submissives seem to have the capacity to orgasm through mental command. But this part of the brain is hard to access. If it were, the number of Doms on cell phones calling their submissives ordering them to cum would be staggering! One way to begin to tap into this center is by the slow and careful building of trust, confidence and respect. Once trust is established, then the training can begin. This can take a few months - or more. The following is a general guide on training your submissive to cum on command. (There is, however, no guarantee that these methods will work -- especially on submissives who are not multi-orgasmic, do not orgasm easily or are non-orgasmic.)

A. Start by training the sub to ask permission to cum when she is about to orgasm during sex. "Master/Sir, may I cum?" should always be asked. At this stage, orgasm should never be denied; the object here is to link a specific verbal phrase with orgasm. Your "permission" or "ordering" must always be the same phrase. "Master commands you to cum" or some variant is the most effective. But whatever it is, it must be exactly the same, every time you "order" her to cum.

B. The next part of the training is to deny release -- "No, you may not " -- while continuing the sexual stimulation of your submissive. You should then order release within ten/fifteen seconds of this initial denial. Then gradually increase this interval. Eventually you should get up to a couple of minutes between denial and permission before proceeding to the next step.

C. This time when you deny permission to cum, take your hand away. Wait a few seconds, then resume stimulation simultaneous with commanding her to cum. It is important that you train her to cum immediately on command/resumption of stimulation. Gradually increase the time between moving your hand and ordering her to cum. When this interval reaches five minutes or more you are ready to move on.

D. This is the big step. The GIANT step. The big enchilada! When she is about to cum and asks permission, deny it and take your hand away - just like in the previous step. Wait a number of seconds -- then order her to cum but do not touch her. If she cum’s on this command, without any stimulation, you have hit the jackpot! Repeat this over time while gradually increasing the interval. Eventually the interval can be made as long as you want it - thus she can literally cum on command without you touching her.

E. You can now attempt the legendary high Yaqui Dom feat - commanding her to cum before she is even physically stimulated! Hint -- I think it best you put her into a sexy mood. Many Doms have keywords or phrases they use before a sex session. Use of a keyword or phrase can get her out of "vanilla space" and make her more receptive to your commands to cum. But even with the sub thinking sexy thoughts, this is still one astounding feat. Like levitation.

As I said, Cumming on command without any physicality whatsoever is something of an urban BDSM legend. What I have presented here is a good system for, at the very least, teaching a sub to cum on command after being sexually aroused. As for taking it to the limit - Cumming on command without any physical stimulation at all -- that is up to you.

Originally written by:BaadMaster




BrainSlugs83 -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 1:48:33 PM)

"But whatever it is, it must be exactly the same, every time you "order" her to cum. " -- that seems to be in contrast with "conventional behavior conditioning theory" -- as when training a response in a person the triggers are highly subjective -- as long as you can inspire the same mood/feelings I think you'll be on the right track -- sort of like how the change in voice seemed to play as a trigger in justfortheforum's account.

"I do not think a man can cum without being touched" -- someone's never have a nocturnal emission!




SilverWulf -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 3:53:49 PM)

I have trained My girl to cum on command, it really wasn't all that difficult to do, just took awhile.

I started by making her ask for permission, and granted permission freely at first.  I slowly began to deny her every time, just for a few seconds, then minutes each time.  Each time I would allow orgasm she was praised for following My commands.  Over time I would mix up allowing her to cum when she asked right away along with denying her for up to several minutes at a time. 

Once she simply could not cum without hearing Me tell her to, I introduced her 'trigger' word.  During all this time I did not tell her I was doing all this for a purpose, she thought I was just being the controlling sadist I always am.  After introducing her trigger, I would tell her to cum and then say that word to her as she came.  I slowly began introducing that word in place of saying 'cum for Me'.  Eventually, and now, all I say is her trigger to induce an orgasm.  Once the trigger replaced 'cum for Me, I purposely said her trigger word in conversation to see what would happen, she had an orgasm and fell to the floor. (this was at a play party) Now, whether there is any physical stimulation or not, if I say her trigger she will orgasm.

I knew then that I had accomplished My goal, though I've found it will fade if not used regularly.  I picked a word that is not regularly used in everyday conversation.  I knew a girl previously who had a word that was common and it caused many problems for her, so be careful with this. (unless of course you want your girl cumming daily at sometimes inopportune times)

The whole process took almost a year to complete and has added a very enjoyable dimension to our play and our relationship.




BrainSlugs83 -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 5:16:58 PM)

Neat!

"Over time I would mix up allowing her to cum when she asked right away along with denying her for up to several minutes at a time." -- I'd like to mention, that in a psychology class I just got out of, we learned that giving someone random success and failure to a point where they think they will eventually "win" if they keep "playing" (think gambling) is a great way to create an obsession in someone.




LotusSong -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 9:28:29 PM)

Gentlemen:
 
Than you for your techniques.. It seems tome that is is more of a mental stare in the submissive rather than a physical one.
 
Now my next question:  HOW do you discern your submissive actually cums?




kate -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/3/2007 9:40:07 PM)

i came under hypnosis today....first time ever....on the very first try.....but it took a while...it was not like a regualr orgams...it just felt like one without the actual physical contraction....it was amazing




Sinimint -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/4/2007 1:40:09 AM)

Hi LotusSong

It's easy, while cumming the Master could easily insert a finger into the sub's vagina and feel the orgasm, or there are always other signs, facial signs, tensing of certain parts of the body etc.  And anyway, most submissives are always truthful to their masters, and would never lie, especially about something as big as this.

And this is certainly no urban legend :)




BrainSlugs83 -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/4/2007 3:22:13 AM)

It's easy enough to check if you're suspicious.

But if I found out my sub was faking orgasms, she'd loose her right to masturbate for at least a week (probably longer) [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m23.gif[/image] -- and I sure as hell wouldn't be providing her with any "southern" stimulation either... [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m7.gif[/image] since she doesn't know the difference between fake and real orgasms anyway this shouldn't be a big deal for her! [:)]




Stephann -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/4/2007 6:15:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinimint

Hi LotusSong

It's easy, while cumming the Master could easily insert a finger into the sub's vagina and feel the orgasm, or there are always other signs, facial signs, tensing of certain parts of the body etc.  And anyway, most submissives are always truthful to their masters, and would never lie, especially about something as big as this.

And this is certainly no urban legend :)


Ayup.  I'd be pretty amazed if those were 'faked' vaginal contractions, with all of the other signs present.

Stephan




rascallymisty -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/4/2007 7:03:16 AM)

Greetings LotusSong,
 
I know You ask the Dom's, but putting my two cents in here as well. My ex Master could make me cum from 3000 miles away. It took a while for him to do so but it did happen. He had a key word that he used and it worked everytime. He used it when we where together as well as when we where not. It was always the same word......sure do miss hearing it.
 
~ misty ~




Elorin -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/4/2007 7:12:51 AM)

I'm not a gentleman, but I have worked with femsubs on this subject as well as having been orgasm trained with my partner.

Seeing everything that was posted above about getting a woman to that point, I'll simply say if you'd like variations on the themes feel free to write for my viewpoint.

However, how do you know she orgasms? ~grins~ Well, there's the tiny spurt of fluid (with gushers) with a hard orgasm. The dampening of panties or just the inner lips (verifiable with a quick finger check). But my favorite was this...

California Exotics made a Kegel exerciser toy that had both a light readout and an audible noise to test the strength of Kegel contractions. It was a fun lil toy, and was great for learning control of Kegels...don't just squeeze randomly but make it go to 5, and no higher, for 10 contractions. Now 6...now 3. You get the idea.  Anyway, I was showing it off to someone and giggling (I collect sex toys) when I was ordered to cum. The light readout maxed out and the damned toy sounded like someone strangled it until the contractions stopped. ~grins~ I'd call that verifiable proof!




LotusSong -> RE: Cumming on command techniques (3/4/2007 8:26:13 AM)

Ladies :) while I appreciate your input I have my reasons for presenting my question to the men folk :)
 
 ... and my reason is this:
 
When I read some of the gentleman's' response to how their females respond to their attempts to make them orgasm, it occurred to me that they have a very "porn movie" education where it would be soooooooooooooo easy to fool them if the female wanted to.  This is why I asked how they knew when their female actually orgasmed.
 
A wet vagina is not necessarily an indicator or orgasm any more than a male's precum is an orgasm.  It's simply a lubrication precursor.
 
 When a woman is in a hypnotic state or conditioned to"cum" on command, it appears to me to be no more in the males' control than having a created a wet dream state.

It appears to be more of a mental exercise than a physical one.  If you can picture yourself being told to cum without any penal stimulation, you'll get my gist. 
 
But this is the eterrnal argument- isn't it :)




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