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WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 12:21:21 AM

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A while back, Sir asked if I would care to have a wrestling match with him. Well, actually he asked if I wanted some rug burn;

then explained by saying he wanted to know if I wanted to wrestle with him.

I, being somewhat feisty, thought on the idea for just a moment, after all he is quite a bit bigger then me, and I was pondering how I would react, his being my Dom and all; then told him I did.

After I agreed, he asked what I would like for a prize if I won. I told him I did not know what I would want. He said if I did not pick a prize there would be no match, so I came up with something. (not important)

Then he told me what he wanted from me if he won. (not important)

Objective: He or she who manages to fully unclothe the other, is winner.

Here are the non-rules of the event….as he said there were no rules.

My hands will be tied behind my back.
My ankles will be tied together.
I will provide him with a pair of scissors.
I should wear something I do not care about incase it gets ruined, because he will be attempting to rip/cut my clothes off.
(in fairness) I too, will be provided with a pair of scissors.
(for safety sake) He will move them out of my reach, so I do not hurt myself with them.

While discussing the non-rules, I pointed out that it didn’t appear to me, I stood much of a chance; (smirks) he agreed by saying he didn’t see that I did either.

Sir left me with two pieces of advice; first, I might want to be still when he is cutting my clothes off with the scissors, as he wouldn't want to cut me with them; second, I should train.

My questions….by the way…I’m not asking what anyone thinks my Dom, or I, should do. I am asking for what you would do/think….your experiences (if you want to share) with being in a situation like mine. Thank you.

First I am wondering how others handle physical “combat”, for lack of a better word, with their Dominant. I am feeling a bit uncomfortable with it, not sure how I should, or will react.

If you were in a similar situation to what I have described, do you think/know they want you to “fight” back?

If not, what do you believe the purpose is?

If yes, why the major handicap?

Also, if you were going to train for something like this, how would you do it?

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 3:26:54 AM

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i cannot answer any of the questions you posted but i absolutely loved reading this! i am still chuckling!!

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 3:38:51 AM

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i cannot answer any of the questions you posted

Is this because you haven’t experienced something like what I’ve described?

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i absolutely loved reading this! i am still chuckling!!

Glad you enjoyed.

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 4:33:48 AM

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(in fairness) I too, will be provided with a pair of scissors.
(for safety sake) He will move them out of my reach, so I do not hurt myself with them.

A good Dominant always puts your safety first!

Sounds more like part of a rape/kidnapping fantasy scene than a wrestling match, IMO. i do think he wants you to struggle, but he obviously plans to win. i think that if you put yourself in the mindset of having been "captured", things will work out just fine. Don't wear jeans, and don't bite him *too* hard

Sounds like fun!

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 5:12:19 AM

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A good Dominant always puts your safety first!

He is very considerate of me…isn’t he?

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Sounds more like part of a rape/kidnapping fantasy scene than a wrestling match, IMO.

I see your point.

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i do think he wants you to struggle, but he obviously plans to win.

Yes, he has so much as said so. I think his exact words were “I expect it to take all of 5 minutes, if that, because of having to cut around the ropes.”

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i think that if you put yourself in the mindset of having been "captured", things will work out just fine.

Good idea....I will work on that.

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Don't wear jeans,

Why not jeans? Is there something I am not thinking of here?

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and don't bite him *too* hard

*smiles* I had not thought of that, though I had thought of head butting.

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Sounds like fun!

I agree, I’m just worried I will be so nervous, I will giggle through the whole thing. Well, until he tells me to stop anyway.

Thanks for your help.

Be well,

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 5:45:17 AM

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Why not jeans? Is there something I am not thinking of here?

Denim is a tough material, and most jeans are pretty close-fitting... meaning, difficult to cut off of someone who's struggling. The looser the clothing, the less chance you'll get nicked with the scissors. The notable exception to that is pantyhose, which can easily be torn away.

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I agree, I’m just worried I will be so nervous, I will giggle through the whole thing. Well, until he tells me to stop anyway.

Maybe you'll be lucky and he'll have a gag handy

IMO, a cloth gag is really the icing on the cake for a scene like that.

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 5:58:13 AM

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Denim is a tough material, and most jeans are pretty close-fitting... meaning, difficult to cut off of someone who's struggling. The looser the clothing, the less chance you'll get nicked with the scissors.

True....guess I was thinking he would have me pinned down before he got the scissors in his hand.

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Maybe you'll be lucky and he'll have a gag handy

LOL...chances of that are very good.

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IMO, a cloth gag is really the icing on the cake for a scene like that.

Could work in my favor as well; if I start cussing at him, he probably won't be able to understand what I am saying.

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 6:28:21 AM

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I often physically tussle with Valyraen during sex, it's one of our big turn-ons. He likes fiesty and I like to fight against my bonds. However, I can't really say I'd be big on a wrestling match that I was that sure to lose. While I always make sure Valyraen wins (it's no fun if he doesn't after all), I also regard it as training in cause I ever am sexually attacked and won't give in for a time.

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 6:45:02 AM

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We often do different wrestling "matches". and sledom are the fair.. LOL That is part of His power in the play, he does not have to be fair. We both know that in a true match He would win: He is bigger, stronger, younger, and use to do a lot of the Men's wrestling at the Leather Bars, so he is really into the wrestling.

It is more the power exchange and control but with me being free to fight and struggle.

We do have some unoffical rules with us, or at lest when he wrestles me.. it is wrestling not fighting so i don't (and he does not anyways) punch, bite or gouge. There might some pinching but it is not a win from pain induced from fighting. it is the overpowering take control that is the attraction. He does hurt me while wrestling, like leg locks. We use the two slap/tap as the yellow safe word, to ease off a bit.

While i have never won, i have held my own for awhile.. OK for a minute or two.. well ..OK.. OK... for a few seconds here and there..

When He does a presentation at some of the kink conferences He talks about not being fair in wrestling and take downs. it is not about a fair match.. it is about power.

i enjoyed reading your scene set up also..

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 7:17:04 AM

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First let me say thank you to all who have posted thus far. I apreciate it.

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I often physically tussle with Valyraen during sex, it's one of our big turn-ons.

This is something I have done with ex-vanilla’s, (not tied up of course), but not my Dom. So far it has just been training and practice, so I’m finding the idea of “taking him on” a little confusing, as it kind of goes against how he has trained me.

I’ve also considered how, when confronted by something I can’t walk away from, I tend to fight. I would hate to hurt him by coming up with something he hasn’t thought of.

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He likes fiesty and I like to fight against my bonds.

Glad it works for you.

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However, I can't really say I'd be big on a wrestling match that I was that sure to lose.

I wouldn’t say I’m against it, but I am seriously curious as to why he would want/need such an uneven match. Also, I do not know if he realizes this, but making the odds greater against me, translates to "try harder" for me....or maybe he does...hmmmm

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While I always make sure Valyraen wins (it's no fun if he doesn't after all),

Of course! ;)

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I also regard it as training in cause I ever am sexually attacked and won't give in for a time.

Good thinking, I will keep it in mind.

Thanks again.

Be well,

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Bitching; whining in a louder voice.

If the truth hurts, change it!

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 7:32:21 AM

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quote:

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However, I can't really say I'd be big on a wrestling match that I was that sure to lose.

I wouldn’t say I’m against it, but I am seriously curious as to why he would want/need such an uneven match. Also, I do not know if he realizes this, but making the odds greater against me, translates to "try harder" for me....or maybe he does...hmmmm

Honestly this strikes me as more of a rape or aduction scene then a wrestling match, something Valyraen and I also engage in. Most of the time I am ordered to be still while he binds me, however sometimes he just has to pin me down long enough to manage it. It's a good work-out!

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 7:36:28 AM

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I'd remove the scissors totally. If you want to rip, you can knotch the fabric in a few places BEFORE starting. That way, you CAN squirm when the close are trying to be taken off.

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 8:13:08 AM

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We often do different wrestling "matches". and sledom are the fair.. LOL

This made me smile.

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That is part of His power in the play, he does not have to be fair.

Right, this I get. I did consider it has to do with his demonstrating his authority. I wonder though what fun will it be for him if I am unable to present any kind of chanllenge for him……perhaps he is hoping I will surprise him?. Ahhhh, I’m so confused!

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It is more the power exchange and control but with me being free to fight and struggle.

Do you think for yourself or if you were in a similar situation to mine, part of the purpose is to cause frustration? This is something he has done to me mildly, from time to time.

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He does hurt me while wrestling, like leg locks. We use the two slap/tap as the yellow safe word, to ease off a bit.

Sir has mentioned he probably wasn't going to be "nice" about it.

As of yet, I don’t have a designated safe word, but I am sure the proper precautions will be taken. If there’s a problem, I know one word, I am confident will stop him in his tracks. So either way, I’ll have it covered. As long as I can speak, that is.....I'll talk to him about this.

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While i have never won, i have held my own for awhile.. OK for a minute or two.. well ..OK.. OK... for a few seconds here and there..

LOL

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When He does a presentation at some of the kink conferences He talks about not being fair in wrestling and take downs. it is not about a fair match.. it is about power.

His power; your vulnerability to him?

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i enjoyed reading your scene set up also..

Thank you. It was fun to write; yet, interestingly, all true. Glad you enjoyed.

Be well,

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Bitching; whining in a louder voice.

If the truth hurts, change it!

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 8:33:16 AM

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Honestly this strikes me as more of a rape or aduction scene then a wrestling match,

Perhaps he has a reason for presenting it as a wrestling match instead of how it appears. I myself, am not sure how I would react to such an idea, especially as a first scene. Saying it is a wrestling match takes some of the pressure off. Not to mention, from my understanding, the match is over once the clothes are off, so no rape. Abduction could be more like it, being it is Sir, that sounds delicious to me.

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Most of the time I am ordered to be still while he binds me

I got the impression I would be bound before festivities began.

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It's a good work-out!

I bet.

Thank you.

Be well,

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If the truth hurts, change it!

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 8:54:06 AM

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If you want to rip, you can knotch the fabric in a few places BEFORE starting. That way, you CAN squirm when the close are trying to be taken off.

That is an exolent idea. I like the thought of being able to continuing to struggle.

I wonder if he has a specific reason for wanting to use the scissors or if he just hadn’t thought of a better way to get the clothes off. He could be useing one of his jedi mind tricks on me too. After all, when asked how I would know it was him for our first meeting, he said, "I will be the one with the 6' cage thrown over their sholder", or something like that. I will ask him what he thinks of your suggestion.

If he still wants to use the scissors, I will take his advice, and be perfectly still. The idea of struggling with someone who is wielding a sharp pair of scissors that they have stuffed down my pants, front or back, does not seem like a well thought out plan, to me.

Thank you for the idea.

Be well,

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 10:12:25 AM

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 10:23:23 AM

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Now this just sounds like too much fun. Can I play too? Just kidding but it does sound like alot of fun, and a great way to get rid of some of lifes stress. Duel purpose play (ahhh more definitions lmoa j/k)

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 10:33:08 AM

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it sounds like a heckuva good time to me! it's difficult to judge the tone in which his comments were made, but it seems to be in good fun...personally, I'd enjoy the concept that I could actually win, as I'm very competitive at times, and do my best to make it difficult for him to win, despite the odds being such that he probably will.

as far as training goes, I'd hearken back to the time you were a kid and wrestled with your siblings...for me, I could always subdue my brother by making him laugh hysterically - use your imagination and have fun!

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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 10:55:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: KeirasSecret

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If you want to rip, you can knotch the fabric in a few places BEFORE starting. That way, you CAN squirm when the close are trying to be taken off.

That is an exolent idea. I like the thought of being able to continuing to struggle.

I wonder if he has a specific reason for wanting to use the scissors or if he just hadn’t thought of a better way to get the clothes off. He could be useing one of his jedi mind tricks on me too. After all, when asked how I would know it was him for our first meeting, he said, "I will be the one with the 6' cage thrown over their sholder", or something like that. I will ask him what he thinks of your suggestion.

If he still wants to use the scissors, I will take his advice, and be perfectly still. The idea of struggling with someone who is wielding a sharp pair of scissors that they have stuffed down my pants, front or back, does not seem like a well thought out plan, to me.

Thank you for the idea.

Be well,

If he's just all bent up about using scissors (hell, it's HOT), consider safety scissors....or....maybe one of these. It's a LITTLE harder to knick (misspelled to match knotch) someone with it.
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RE: WWF D/s style? - 3/6/2007 12:28:25 PM

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Yeah, my first thought was leave out the scizzors.

I don't know how aggessive you are, what kind of fighter, or how crazy you can go, but I did a couple of scenes like that once and ended up kind of hurting myself. I was bound, blindfolded and gagged with a ball gag. The guy I was playing with flogged me until I was close to my limit then told me to make it stop. The idea was that I had a choice between crying or fighting and if I chose to fight that I was supposed to free myself as he continued to flog me, and then wrestle him for the flogger. I did that, but at one point needed more air (I have issues surrounding suffocation) so I ripped the ball gag from my mouth and a bit of metal scratched me accross the face pretty bad. I didn't notice at the time, because I was busy wrestling for the flogger. I never faught as hard as I could and always called red right before I thought I was gonna go totally balistic because I didn't want to hurt him or win his game. But this left me with an icky feeling and I felt kind of bad for not fighting as hard as I could and beating the crap out of him. After doing this about 3 times, I stopped fighting and cried instead which ended the flogging something I felt bad about. After that, I refused to do the scene.

My point is it can be a little dangerous, physically and emotionally. I would also reccommend lots of conversation after the scene. That its been explained to you in advance is great...I didn't have any idea what was going on the first time and I thought he was being mean. I don't know what he thought he was doing except making me cry.

But, the way you described it sounds like a lot of fun. Leaving out the scizzors, of course.

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