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LadyPact -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 12:28:14 PM)
Then, in your case, it would be a hard limit for you that could not be crossed...... But you say defend in a manner that would lead One to believe you would think your introduction into it would be one of harshness, with great force. Instead, imagine a different initiation. Think for a moment for Me a different scenerio. Imagine a different situation, with you sitting at a Mistress' feet (My own, for example) while talking. A slight transgretion from the mouth receiving a light tap upon the cheek. Would you think that you would rise from your place to turn to strike Me? I highly doubt it. Whatever reation you would have would give any Mistress an indication of where this limit is with you. I think, perhaps, that you have looked on this topic at the extreme, rather than the beginning of this sort of play. Maybe due to your adverse reaction to the topic, which you are entitled to. No offense meant to you, of course, but I think you look at the destination of this partiular type of play, rather than the journey. Be well.

LadyPact -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 12:31:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross I understand not wanting to run headlong into something you had a bad experience with, but to just close it all down just leaves me too controlled by fear and shutting down a part that COULD become a very enjoyable outlet for someone. And I know it doesn't help that most doms are clueless when it comes to having patience and building up to an intense activity. But if they are happy with it, that's what matters. i agree, you are supposed to have control of your life, how is this possible when fear dominates your decisions on something you may possibly even be interested in. build up is huge too, baby steps are keys to success a lot of the time Exactly what I meant in My previous posts. Baby steps.

ExSteelAgain -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 12:46:30 PM)
I'll give a careful, hard and rare slap if I think I need to get a sub's attention, followed by holding her and telling her it is okay.

mixielicous -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 1:13:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain I'll give a careful, hard and rare slap if I think I need to get a sub's attention, followed by holding her and telling her it is okay. i find mixed signals like this frustrating, and if anything that would be what would give me abusal flashbacks

ArgoGeorgia -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 1:19:53 PM)
I know there is probably a term for this and it is escaping me at the moment, but it is essentially where two people struggle, fight, bite, and get extremely physical aggressive during sex. Basically, mutually rough sex taken to a very fun level. In this situation, slapping is incredibly erotic, especially if the people can take as well as they give (and maybe throw in a little name calling and spitting for the hell of it). I know that I've had play with a Domme where neither one of us was willing to submit and we were both struggling for control. Good times, good times.

michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 1:21:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Then, in your case, it would be a hard limit for you that could not be crossed...... But you say defend in a manner that would lead One to believe you would think your introduction into it would be one of harshness, with great force. Instead, imagine a different initiation. Think for a moment for Me a different scenerio. Imagine a different situation, with you sitting at a Mistress' feet (My own, for example) while talking. A slight transgretion from the mouth receiving a light tap upon the cheek. Would you think that you would rise from your place to turn to strike Me? I highly doubt it. Whatever reation you would have would give any Mistress an indication of where this limit is with you. I think, perhaps, that you have looked on this topic at the extreme, rather than the beginning of this sort of play. Maybe due to your adverse reaction to the topic, which you are entitled to. No offense meant to you, of course, but I think you look at the destination of this partiular type of play, rather than the journey. Be well. well, since my parents had a high tendency of slapping me for the littlest things, i doubt i would enjoy this.

Mercnbeth -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 1:25:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Then, in your case, it would be a hard limit for you that could not be crossed...... But you say defend in a manner that would lead One to believe you would think your introduction into it would be one of harshness, with great force. Instead, imagine a different initiation. Think for a moment for Me a different scenerio. Imagine a different situation, with you sitting at a Mistress' feet (My own, for example) while talking. A slight transgretion from the mouth receiving a light tap upon the cheek. Would you think that you would rise from your place to turn to strike Me? I highly doubt it. Whatever reation you would have would give any Mistress an indication of where this limit is with you. I think, perhaps, that you have looked on this topic at the extreme, rather than the beginning of this sort of play. Maybe due to your adverse reaction to the topic, which you are entitled to. No offense meant to you, of course, but I think you look at the destination of this partiular type of play, rather than the journey. Be well. well, since my parents had a high tendency of slapping me for the littlest things, i doubt i would enjoy this. this slave got slapped as a tot as well and the first time it happened outside of the parental units it was a big turn-off, but just imagine, for a moment, that you have surrendered yourself to the Mistress of your dreams and she finds it HOT...to give such a pleasure is in and of itself more joyfull and something to be enjoyed more than toting the negative past into the present and dwelling on it for the gazillioneenth time. nothing personal, michael, just sayin'.[:)]

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 1:33:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia has anyone that is into this ever gotten slapped back out of reflex? one of my formers slapped me (and this wasn't discussed ahead of time during play) and i snapped. i backhanded him hard out of reflex because i don't like being hit whether it's fun or not. we never tried it again.

onestandingstill -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 1:41:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ArgoGeorgia I know there is probably a term for this and it is escaping me at the moment, but it is essentially where two people struggle, fight, bite, and get extremely physical aggressive during sex. Basically, mutually rough sex taken to a very fun level. In this situation, slapping is incredibly erotic, especially if the people can take as well as they give (and maybe throw in a little name calling and spitting for the hell of it). I know that I've had play with a Domme where neither one of us was willing to submit and we were both struggling for control. Good times, good times. Is the word you seek Primal Play?

Aileen68 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 1:44:49 PM)
Face slapping is fucking hot and instantly puts me in the perfect mental state. I'm getting all gooey just thinking about it. Definitely one of my absolute favorite things.

ExSteelAgain -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 1:50:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous quote: ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain I'll give a careful, hard and rare slap if I think I need to get a sub's attention, followed by holding her and telling her it is okay. i find mixed signals like this frustrating, and if anything that would be what would give me abusal flashbacks Can you elaborate? Someone used to slap you and hold you who was abusing you?

Devilslilsister -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 2:09:45 PM)
i enjoy face slapping, but i find it difficult. Its easiest is when it comes with out me knowing, but unfortunetly, its almost impossible to suprise me. i've been hit in the past and i just have this amazing radar for anything coming near my head. Holding myself still, is almost the only way to go about it for me. Yet its hard not to flinch, react, or even jerk out of the way. Not easy to stop an action brought about by survival instinct. That and combined with neck problems makes it something we cant engage in all the time. But it is hot = ) Love breathe play. Think a bag would freak me out tho. i find that when He does it, its much more personal. With his arm or his hands, staring down into my eyes........ i could be on the moon for all i knew. Although i do have to becareful and make sure that i remember to signal him some way. There was once where i just floated..... and it occured to me that he wouldnt know to stop if i showed no signs of resisting. No "hey now i cant breathe!" No wiggle of the body, no struggle for air....... just laying there..... floating away in his eyes..... Gah it was lovely. Cant wait till we can do it again.

Devilslilsister -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 2:16:20 PM)
Steel, i think i know what Mixi is talking about. If my Master ever did it out of "correction" or frustration or anger or whatever.....i'd most likely view it as a threat. I'd also react to such threat.

Squeakers -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 2:40:18 PM)
I think there is a vast difference between a rape fantasy or face slapping bringing back a tramatic childhood or adult memory and edge play which can cause death. In most cases, if one has already lived through a tramatic moment, the memory is merely a memory and although it can stir up emotional feelings, the memory itself will not kill a person. Yes it can bring about suicidal thoughts in some cases, but those thought are not always acted upon. Breath play on the other hand, has caused death to some even by an experienced hand. I think in regards to this there is much more to worry about than bringing up some trauma from the past.

CreativeDominant -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 3:05:44 PM)
This was something I had just started experimenting with...I enjoyed it and she did too. It was a bit difficult to get started in it though...sort of like the begiinings when I first raised my hand to spank a submissive or first took a flogger to her, etc., etc.. Lots of talking helped and increasing increments of force and speed til finding a level that worked for us was arrived at. Chiming in with others...baby steps when first introduced into play. This is something even more primeval than spanking, IMO, and requires thoughtful handling at first so that something that can be so good and so hot and so exciting doesn't become a big "No...oh hellllllll, no".

ArgoGeorgia -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 3:32:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: onestandingstill Is the word you seek Primal Play? Yes! Thank you, sheesh. I hate when the brain misfires like that.

ExSteelAgain -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 5:15:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister Steel, i think i know what Mixi is talking about. If my Master ever did it out of "correction" or frustration or anger or whatever.....i'd most likely view it as a threat. I'd also react to such threat. I'm talking about in the context of a scene actually. I'm not saying to get her attention about this or that. LOL..that would be pretty extreme. In any case, I have done scenes with those who love to be slapped repeatedly, too. The sub holds her face there for me is the best way I can say it. That is very hot when she comes back for more and more. Not for everyone for sure.

mstrjx -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 5:34:27 PM)
I'm certain I've related this story before, so I'll give the Reader's Digest version here (if such a thing is possible for me). I was always taught as a kid never to hit a woman. Later on, my own self-imposed rule was to indulge women in what they like. I didn't realize at the time that those two 'rules' would cross paths. Even some years before I really knew about D/s (but had long understood how I felt about bondage), I had a girlfriend who would indulge me in some of my games. We didn't do it all the time. I guess I was still vanilla 'with a twist'. Being the intuitive rascal that I am, I knew that there was something sexually 'dark' that she was keeping from me. Something that shamed her. I kept asking and asking, but she would never share. One night, during an otherwise vanilla sexual encounter (me on top), I had this sudden urge to potentially throw away our relationship. I broke Mommy's cardinal rule in a big way and gave my girlfriend quite a slap (all the while otherwise in mid-stroke). She started crying; I might have as well (I don't recall). But I definitely had the vivid impression of our relationship dissolving right then and there. About 5 minutes later, once she had composed herself, she spoke. "How did you know?" Her secret was out. Following my rule #2, from time to time we would indulge my interests (bondage) and at other times hers (face-slapping), until she finally stopped me. Didn't want me to do that any longer. I couldn't understand. WHY? "Because for you, it isn't real." It would take some years later, once I was fully entrenched in the Lifestyle, to realize that I had met my first truly sexually submissive woman, and I hadn't yet learned about sexual domination. Jeff

Cuckme4Life -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 5:35:45 PM)
a former Domme many years ago once slapped me out of the blue during extremely intense sex between us,,,,, She slapped the taste out of my mouth literally... started telling me " CUM CUM, CUM RIGHT NOW!!! ".. slapped me about 3 times as hard as She could within maybe a 20 to 30 second time frame... ,, and i did just that,.... i came,,, and very hard!!! ,., later i asked where that slap motivation came from and She said it was to Her an experiment in and about control.... a successful experiment surely, but She did not care to indulge in it any further than that one time,... i personally felt turned on by the idea but not something for everyday usage.... i can see where it can be a problem for some and not a problem for others.....

ownedgirlie -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/6/2007 6:14:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth this slave got slapped as a tot as well and the first time it happened outside of the parental units it was a big turn-off, but just imagine, for a moment, that you have surrendered yourself to the Mistress of your dreams and she finds it HOT...to give such a pleasure is in and of itself more joyfull and something to be enjoyed more than toting the negative past into the present and dwelling on it for the gazillioneenth time. I really liked what you & LA had to say in this thread. Having been slapped (with hands and with shoes) as a youngster, and belted severely and often, these were things I was quite afraid of in my growing submission. But I wanted my Master to control me, not my fear. In my case, I asked him to do both to me, and to help me overcome so that my past would not interfere with my present. Every once in awhile the belt will still cause a very brief panic, but all I need to do when that occurs is to remember it is in my Master's hand now, and all is well.

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