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SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 4:18:25 AM)
I use to limit My face slapping to tapping sort to get attention during oral worship which seemed arouse Both but then I came across a few women that enjoyed the harder variety. My faceslapping has been limited to sessions only as it seems to be a session mindset rather than a day to day thing for Me. The women that consented to the harder...full palm open...not backhanded...slowly were built up to it...Me asking how they were doing and if they liked it after each slap. The arrousal with Us Both was increased with each slap and was intensified by her look of submission in her eyes as I directed her to look Me in the eyes so she could see the intensity and I inturn see how it affected her. This was always concluded with Me taking her genitally or orally while she looked in to My eyes..watching them dance with fevered fire as I did and watching her feed off of My rections the cycle became primal. I have never backhanded though there were a few that wanted that. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 4:21:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lighthearted I was very pleasantly surprised that in this aspect of my adult life, where I have chosen to give someone the power to do that to me, my reaction was completely different than as it was a youngster where that power exchange was not there at all. I was told one time that she felt I was safe to be *with* but not safe *from*...as I would bring her fantasies to the edge,...hold her...let her look over ...and bring her back safely again. Knowing that she needed to be careful of what she wished for as I would bring it to her without hesitation or fail. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> Controling by the scruff of the neck RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit (3/8/2007 4:31:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bearlee Hmmmmmm… For me this would be a lot like hair pulling; but more so.…sort of like being pulled up short and plunged deeply into a wonderful space. Controling by the scruff of the neck with hair between the fingers and palm firmly at the base of the head is deliciusly like riding a wild horse while controling via the mane. Proper control does not hurt but exerts and maintains control and direction of proper behaviour and body movements especially during oral and penetration. The two methods that I use that come to mind is the cradled head method with hair through fingers and the palm up fist with hair thru fingers at base of skull during doggie style piledriving. The pleasure of watching a submissive woman go into subspace as she feel the power and control is so delicious and leads to memorable times and never fails to entertain Me. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 4:51:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous Rape play, yea we do it, even as a victim of rape. i used to hold an unnatural fear of rape, nightmares and the like since i was a teen. then a few years ago, i experienced the real deal, and lucky for me, that was me facing my fear, i didnt suffer much trauma and as a result, rape fantasy is one hot mamma for me, on many levels. I have experience many women that rape play was VERY hot subject and session time for them. Everything within thier consenting limits ....the feel of not being responsible for what is happening to them...being over powered...struggling....very delicious. Now the disclaimer. I do not condone any activity that is not safe sane and with consnet. That being done here are a few links that you might enjoy the insight to. When rape is a gift Violence in the garden Quotations: J Three different experiences of rape 'Who Stole Feminism?' by Christina Hoff Sommers: a book review Understanding Rape, rape fantasy, being taken, being ravished Why you should not withhold spanking! Getting it right takes time ... Quotations: F Quotations: T To be taken Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:06:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous but my super duper please dont do that i WILL cry is the hand over the mouth and nose. . its so much scarier than just a hand around the neck, coz there is NOTHING to suck in, no mercy, no hope, just nothing. WOW thats a scarey one, i can imagine much like the bag I have done varieties of this... Slowly placing hand over mouth and noce and holding it there firmly for a few seconds then releasing it. Usual reaction is that of fear and gasping for air even if it was only a few seconds as it is the mindset. Now if the time for reassurance by talking softly and calmly and asking how she is doing. The hot verbage can come later. Slowly work up the time incrementally. Then go past the usual time for about 20 seconds. This will bring waves of anxiety and panic along with the struggle to release My hand. Continue to talk reassuringly. Then release. Continue for a half hour to an hour. Then move on. Return later to it in the session when you are penetrating pildriving and watch how the reaction now differs. Ross ©º°¨¨°º© disclaimer: http://www.collarchat.com/m_876929/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#877049

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:12:34 AM)
I am sad to see that many women here and that I have met have experienced rape in reality. I know I can never understand the trama that it must bring. I might be able to empathize but never really understand. My deepest regrets. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:17:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael I do that all the time and find it quite hot and easy to control, unlike a bag. Because it is SO big for most people, you don't even have to come close to the edge for it to be hot, assuming you find it hot in the first place. It does help if the submissive is imobilized as it will add the element of fear to it. A clear bag allows one to observe reactions. You may practice to be be slight of hand either before or during by cutting a hole in the corner that the submissive does not see or know about. Sort of like hooding a submissive and "leaving" them there by using footsteps and door noises but actually sitting there and observing. It's an Ilusionnnnnnnn. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:21:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nyrisaOh, man; does that bring back post traumatic memories. L My older brothers used to duck my head under the water when we were swimming. To them, it was a game, to me, it was absolute terror. To this day, I go absolutely berserk if anyone tries to duck me. Those that play this way must be prepared or at least aware of the possibilities of tramatic reaction or hysteria. Most submissives may not be aware of such "buttons" or "red flags" as they may repress them yet during play it may or will eventually come out. Stop all activity and comfort the submissive by holding, stroking hair and talking softly and calmly. I would not resume play at this time but use it to converse and aftercare. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:27:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs We enjoy doing breath play (in the form of dunking underwater, plastic bags on the head, choking on the throat, hand over the mouth and nose, choking with his cock, etc) I have found a power play in the oral choking as you mentioned. It involves remaining montionless after insertion into the submissive's mouth while she is kneeling. The first reaction from her is to bob or touch. No hands. No motion. Then just relax and let the apantage enlarge but muscle excersises and it will engorge in her mouth and throat. Practice at this motionless technique will gag the most experience deep throater par none. Now enters the mind fuckery as many of them feel empowered by being able to bring off a dom as thier abilities to contol the climax is their way of topping from the bottom from My experience. Now they obviously need to be retrained by Me and I reassure them it is ok and it happens to all of them. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:29:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Ever just want the hotness but not the wackiness that follows after they are remorseful? Ross ©º°¨¨°º© so after it was all said and done, her mindset changed again? Oh yes...the puritanical guilt usually kicks in for most of the newbies after the hotness has left...yet it does pervade their dreams and fantasies...but now I am the guilty party of perpetrating this on them.[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:30:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia i have this awful reflex if slapping back when someone assaults me in this manner...hey, i'm only human...i think. I have not flinched as some have....which takes them aback. I then ask if they wish to stop. The answer has ALWAYS been no. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

DiurnalVampire -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:32:23 AM)
Face slapping is a limit for us for one reason, it has nothing but negative connotations for him. There would be nothing in the world I could do to put a positive spin on the act, after the years it was usedagainst him, and for me to do something to him like that would shake the very foundations of our relationship. My mental and emotinally supportive relationship would crumble in a single action, and no matter what the rush might be from the power, it isnt worth losing my babys trust. DV

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:59:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ArgoGeorgia essentially where two people struggle, fight, bite, and get extremely physical aggressive during sex. Basically, mutually rough sex taken to a very fun level. In this situation, slapping is incredibly erotic, especially if the people can take as well as they give (and maybe throw in a little name calling and spitting for the hell of it). Indeed it is. The communication and understanding is essential as well as consent: http://www.collarchat.com/m_878974/tm.htm Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 6:11:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: babyblues i think face-slapping is so powerful and intensely intimate....it takes my breath away It is more powerful than may realize. I haven't made My mind up yet this morning if it is a true form of TPE as it involves consent and feedback of both to make the cycle complete. It is by all means erotivly deliciously intense. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 6:16:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen68 Face slapping is fucking hot and instantly puts me in the perfect mental state. I'm getting all gooey just thinking about it. Definitely one of my absolute favorite things. Nothing like a bit of noose play to scare the heck out of some s.a.m. Showing a real noose with heavy rope...placing it onround the neck while taking them doggy style bound and gagged. Telling them...now the real play begins.... The eyes light up and get big. They murfle thru the gag. They go bone dry during penetrative strokes. Mindfuckery. Welcome to My World. (and all the time they are safe as can be but they do not know it) Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: My Rape Play Overpoweper of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 6:25:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: onestandingstill Is the word you seek Primal Play? Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex http://www.collarchat.com/m_878974/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#878974 Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> use of My Belt on RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 6:40:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie Every once in awhile the belt will still cause a very brief panic, but all I need to do when that occurs is to remember it is in my Master's hand now, and all is well. For Me the use of My Belt on a willing female submissive is very erotic... http://www.collarchat.com/m_768819/tm.htm Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

Sinergy -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:35:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia has anyone that is into this ever gotten slapped back out of reflex? No. Wouldnt really upset me though. Everybody else hits me. Sinergy

Sinergy -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:36:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia well, i may know that from the start...but my reflex when hit or slapped is to defend While this might be true, imagine the mind fuck if the person slapping you says "Do not hit me back." Not only are you dealing with being slapped, you are fighting your inner urge to hit back. It is all good. Sinergy

azzmaster -> RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard limit for most submissives (3/8/2007 5:39:06 PM)
it seems pretty harmless compared to alot of play, it strikes me as strange that it would b a hard limit for anyone

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