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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 6:30:52 PM   
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Absolutely awesome thread.  Very glad to see people being so honest and straight foward on the subject.

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 6:50:08 PM   
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Face slapping touches something inside of me that no other thing he has done to me has. With other sorts of play I can channel the emotion into laughter, but that is not the case for face slapping. It breaks me down into my raw elements and reduces me to being completely and hopelessly HIS to do with what he likes. This activity leaves me utterly open for whatever may come, even though I may sob... in fact face slapping allowed me to cry with my Daddy there to gently bring me back and let me know he would never leave me alone there... open, raw, vulnerable in my submission... and I hope he decides to explore this over and over because I respond to it in different ways. There is something profoundly submissive for me to offer my face to him, knowing he could bruise me, hurt me, and still wanting to do exactly as he says.. offering my cheeks in complete deference. I guess many might not understand that, but it works for us.

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 7:09:25 PM   
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Steel, i think i know what Mixi is talking about.  If my Master ever did it out of "correction" or frustration or anger or whatever.....i'd most likely view it as a threat.  I'd also react to such threat. 



I'm talking about in the context of a scene actually. I'm not saying to get her attention about this or that. LOL..that would be pretty extreme.

In any case, I have done scenes with those who love to be slapped repeatedly, too. The sub holds her face there for me is the best way I can say it. That is very hot when she comes back for more and more. Not for everyone for sure.


LOL so then we are agreed.


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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 7:17:38 PM   
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One of the greatest feelings i have ever known is that of my Master's hand slapping my face back and forth, over and over again, very hard, until my ears ring and i wobble and nearly pass out.  He doesn't do it that often, but when He does, i melt.  This sends me into 'space' faster than anything.
 
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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 7:20:17 PM   
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I'll give a careful, hard and rare slap if I think I need to get a sub's attention, followed by holding her and telling her it is okay.

i find mixed signals like this frustrating, and if anything that would be what would give me abusal flashbacks


Can you elaborate? Someone used to slap you and hold you who was abusing you?


lol, no not quite like that. but a lot in abusive relationships there is a hit or verbal attack followed by sooth saying [prolly due to regret of sorts] and if i were to experience a slap to acheive my attention followed by being reaffirmed that i didnt do something wrong seems like something that would trigger a relapse or something more than just the act of being slapped in itself.

sorry if i dont make sense and i am not attacking your methods, just avoidance b/c of bad experience was mentioned .. i was just making an observation


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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 7:24:06 PM   
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No, I understand you are giving me your honest thoughts about it and I take no offense. When I use the single slap thing and it is not part of some play thing of lots of slapping, I will hug her afterwards and tell her it is okay. She seems to respond well to that and is comforted by me holding her. You do give me something to think about with the mixed signals thing. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 7:56:22 PM   
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Face slapping...yum.  I thought I'd hate it for the longest time.  It was on the "I dunno" list.  The first time he slapped me it sent me into subspace so fast I didn't know what hit me.  I don't remember how I got to my knees, but I didn't fall.  It's an instant attitude adjustment...far more powerful than any whip, crop, or cane in His arsenal.  Throat choking can be erotic for me but there is a certain way he does it with this look in his eye that has almost the same effect as slapping me.  Good, good stuff. 

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 8:11:28 PM   
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I'll give a careful, hard and rare slap if I think I need to get a sub's attention, followed by holding her and telling her it is okay.
..This to me would be a good way to start...ooolala...Tempting

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 8:34:51 PM   
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well, i may know that from the start...but my reflex when hit or slapped is to defend


If anyone but Him were to slap me, it would be on.  I have a very instinctual reaction to getting slapped by Him, and it is an instant totally submissive state. 

What I really don't get is the holding and soothing afterwards?  It was a face slap, an attitude correction.  I guess I get the same thing from the look in His eye when He asks me if I'm ready, but I don't think I could take it if He wanted to console me in that way afterwards.  It's understood between us that after punishments or adjustments are over that the matter is settled and forgiven.  I like the drama-free lifestyle it affords. 

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 8:39:40 PM   
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i am a dom but i love to be slapped hard in the face in the heat of passion. any other of u doms like dat?

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 9:36:33 PM   
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I've yet to have this done to me, as before it was always sort of a "soft limit" because it just plain sounded brutal to me, but lately, I've been thinking about it, and am not opposed to it any longer, if the other person knew how to do it without invoking permanent physical injury, and would hold me afterward (like Ex-Steel described).

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/6/2007 10:00:07 PM   
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I became disturbed today.
I read this post earlier today and read some of the responses.  I found myself thinking about things on/off about the day.  Because the OP and everybody touched on some aspects of play, that I myself have done.

Girl Next Door
I find the bitch about introspection is going down memory lane, back to the first time.  Some of you might know who I am talking about when I mention the Girl Next Door.  I have mentioned her from time to time, on posts and exchanges. Long story short the games and things we did together evoled into BDSM activities.  I was somewhere around 13 year old when this all started to happen.  Anyways, I read posts from people talking about the first time they were slapped or bagged and whatnot.  Naturally, my mind went back to thinking about these moments as well. 

The Plastic Bag and the Girl Next Door
It was the weekend, and I was hanging out around the house.  I was the only one home.  I heard a knock knock knock at my Door.  It was my best friend, the Girl Next Door.  So I let her him, and offered her something to drink. Coke or something like that.  We were talking and joking, telling stories about things.  The type of shit we always did.   Anyways, she asked me if I had ever held a plastic bag over me head.  I stopped and was puzzled.. No! Why?  Then she went on about how it felt and how much of a rush it was.  She wanted to show me, I'm thinking to myself this is crazy, but ok, why not.  So we got a bag out of the kitchen.  She proceeded to cover her head up and after a bit.. she pulled the bag off her head almost dizzy.  See, no problem.. it's safe as long as you don't have it on for too long.  Puzzled but it all... I agreed to try it out myself.  (that's how her and I used to play, one of us showing one another something and testing it out on ourselves)...  Anyways, I did the bag thing.. and it was rather bit of a rush.  Though I was not very thrilled about having it done to me.  But she wanted me to hold it over her head... So I did...until she gave me the signal.. and I was watching the time.  We worked slowly with the time.  Kind of like one holding breath or being held under the water in a swimming pool.  Crazy, Safe and Sane in sense. 

But now, she wanted me to take the bag, and incorperate it into our other play.  Long story short... She was down on all fours, head over bag... and I was slapping the side of her head, the bag.. with enough force to make the bag rattle.. enough so she could feel the palm of my hand... but not enough to hurt her.. and not in a place such as over the ear.  There is a few more things which happened, without Sex.  This is in short, my first experience in doing this to another human being.

After she left, my mind was totally blown away...  At what I had done... deeper into the rabbit hole I had gone.  There was no internet back then, nobody to talk with about this.  Fuck, I would not even share this with anybody I knew, because it all was so damn twisted.  No Books on BDSM or anything.  Hell, today is the first time, I have even shared this story with anybody to this degree.   

The Plastic Bag and today
I was shopping in Walmart today when I really started to think about all this crap.  As if I was reliving the moment all over again.  Funny thing, I have not thought about this day for a long ass time.  Not something I sit back and I'm used to thinking when I go down memory lane.  It was strange!  Because this was my first moments in enjoyment of this activitiy as well as the first moments which I had to mentally wrestle with it in my head.  How does one do things like this, cross a new boundary, without perhaps feeling like they are all twisted and bent up inside.  LOL...   I found myself reliving the same emotions and troubled thought of doing it for the first time... WOW!!  Took me about two hours to readjust.  Which this is something to the fact that even us Dom types require aftercare, when doing things for the first time, or when we've pushed past a new limit.

What was freaky walking around walmart having this moment, was that I normally might check out women. You know faces, tits and asses.  I was picturing how one or another would be under a bag!! OH LORD... need to go home now! End of shopping trip.  I normally don't walk around and look at women in this manner.  Only reason why I was because, my memories of that day were so damn vivid and fresh in my mindset... 

Compared Memories
I actually compared this memory to the memory of when I got laid for the first time.  The plastic bag was way more intense.. and actually deeper for the moment compared to loosing my own virginity. 

The Posting, The End 
So here I am typing out this post, for what it's worth to anybody.  I'm OK, I'm not the type to simply act on thoughts or feelings without though and control.   It was just fucking strange how everything clicked inside my head today, after reading this thread.  So I am blessing you all with my thoughts, feelings and experience of the First time for everything.

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RE: My perception of face slapping - 3/6/2007 10:40:12 PM   
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Face slapping

At one point, Daddy and I were watching a porn DVD he'd purchased of pre- or non-op MTFs.  The first sequence was the best, and the woman was drop dead gorgeous, very into what she was doing and evidentally sucking off her top for the camera.  She'd get very interested in the camera, and every so often he'd slap her face to draw her attention back to her main project:  him. 

After a few rounds of this, I realized that it was making me pretty hot.  I'd been slapped before:  usually randomly and even once by a lover who had really poor communication skills but knew I was interested in kink.  ("Dude, I am so going to kick your ass once I uncurl from this fetal position.")  None of it had ever involved my consent, none of it had ever been arousing.  While watching this video, I asked my Daddy if this was something he'd like to do with me.  He considered it and said most likely, and the subject dropped.  I brought it up a few times over the next couple of months, but it took a while for Daddy to decide on the right circumstances.  The first time he did so, while I was going down on him, I was more surprised than anything else -- he was risking my teeth sliding badly. 

But he'd timed things such that I didn't hurt him, and I found it ... a very powerful way to focus on him and my relationship to him.  Somehow, "I'm John's slut" had never fully roared into my head until then.  Each time he slapped my face, the feeling of belonging as a submissive increased.



I once slapped someone during play, and by their request.  I think that my heart stopped beating when I did it -- either that or it'd lodged in my throat.  They got off on it, and intellectually I knew it.  However, I think I experienced something similar top drop that night.  I remember washing up in the club restroom later on, staring at my reflection in the mirror and not quite recognizing myself.  It was like a rite of passage happened that I hadn't been aware of at the time.


Rape play

Not yet, but possibly this year.  Last year, or maybe even in Fall 2005, my Daddy brought it up.  We'd both been drinking our respective wines (he likes Merlot) and were a bit tipsy.  Daddy, who'd even started rocking from side to side minutely by then, said, "I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but I really wanna rape you someday."

*blink*

It's not often that I try to automatically make myself sober that fast.  It almost worked.  When I tried to ask Daddy for specifics, he refused.  We'd been drinking, so now wasn't the time for such a conversation.  It was simply the time for him to bring up the possibility. 

Later and far more sober, we discussed it a few times.  Why he'd want this.  How we could do it such that:
  1. The cops wouldn't be called on us.
  2. I could safeword without losing out on too much realism.
  3. Puzzling out the element of surprise.
  4. How, if applicable by then, to integrate condoms into such a scene.
  5. Would I be fighting back?
  6. Would this involve a full-fledged take-down scene?
We have a pretty good structure planned out.  Time will tell how well our intentions hold up to the reality, though.

Breath play

I've heard very romantic, sexy descriptions of breath play.  I've read that it can enhance sex.  I've read that it can lead to euphoria.  I've read that it's dangerous to the point of being deadly.  I knew that it was an interest of Daddy's, so when he started putting his hand on my throat gently during sex I decided to experiment and see what happened.

The first few times, it was fine.  It was rather sexy, even.  He looked so concerned for me, beautiful and curious as he started down at me.  It was a little distracting from what else he was doing, but still -- nice.  During later sessions, as he started to tighten his grip, I started getting uncomfortable and managing to deal with it ... but that was about it.  It was something to endure, not enjoy. 

The most extreme suffocation scene we had involved Daddy covering my nose and mouth with his hand.  I'd had a lover cover my mouth before during sex and enjoyed it -- it's as though the attempt to silence me gave me permission to make more noise than I would have otherwise.  What happened with Daddy was different.  I'd be breathing okay, and then he'd adjust his hand so that I couldn't get any air.  I'd immediately start moving my face, adjusting my nose and mouth such that I could suck down some more air.  Then he'd adjust again.

I hated it.  I realize that this is going to sound utterly stupid considering that Daddy's a sadist, but it seemed so mean.  Mean in a way that I not only didn't like, but could barely tolerate.  After getting barely enough air to keep me comfortable, he'd shut it off again.  And again.  And again.  Before it got absolutely unbearable, I started crying.  Crying helped a little:  it was a bit like a release valve that allowed me to do something with all of the frustration I felt.  Once I started, though, it felt like I couldn't stop.  This was too close to death for me, too close to the people who'd fucked with my life and my sanity just because they could ... not because I'd consented.  At that point, I'm not sure I realized that I could safeword my way out of it -- I think I forgot that safewords existed.  I was simply stuck in a situation with a very mean person who wouldn't even allow me air!

Once Daddy realized that I wasn't going to stop crying, he took is hand off of my face and started petting my hair and fucking me in ernest.  He cooed at me, told me it was okay and that I was safe and a good girl.  And that was kind of him, but I still couldn't stop crying for an alarming amount of time.  It was probably only another five minutes or so, but it seemed like a few hours.

I felt bad at the time, as though I'd failed him.  Instead, he told me how honored he was that I'd trusted him enough to let him, that I was willing to be that experimental and adventurous, and how relieved he was that I didn't hate him afterward.

Nowadays, Daddy won't touch my neck during sex unless I offer by trying to nudge his fingers towards it.  Having his hand rest lightly, or even a little firmly, on my neck is still something I enjoy.  I'm not sure if it's enough for him, though, and I'm not sure of how to work around my hysteria ... or even if I should.


Knife play


The first time I encountered knife play, it was with a woman who turned out to be probably less safe than I would have preferred had a known.  While chatting in the social area of the club I attend, she whipped out a blade, flipped it open and displayed it to me.  A friend I was with found it fascinating, how quickly my breath caught.  I was a little surprised myself.  I'd never eroticized blades before, but feeling the edge of it along my skin gave me involuntary shivers ... all the more agonizing because I really, really had to hold still.

Daddy loves knife play.  During one of his early visits to my apartment, while I was washing dishes he came up behind me and asked, "Do you trust me?"  I said, "Yes," and heard him take one of my cooking knives out of the block.  He started tracing the point along my back and arms as I held still and tried not to breathe too heavily.



Daddy, who will be entering college this Spring in order to gain certification as a metal worker, wants to set up a forge.  He has a strong affinity towards metals, and actually likes to be the recipient of knife play himself.  This past weekend, he showed me how to service him.  We started with a slightly seraded butter knife on the back of his thigh, and slowly worked up to me using some of his personal weapons.  It was a very meditative experience on both sides:  he got to lie back and simply get done -- like massage, but with more of an elemental link to it.  I was in hyperfocus mode:  no blood, no marks, watch out for the backs of the knees and elbows, be careful of creases -- I was able to prove before we started that I knew most if not all of the concerns simply by developing a mental list on the fly. 

It was power exchange on the "holy shit!" level for me.  Like with cocksucking, like with strap-on play, I was responsible for my Daddy's pleasure, comfort and safety, but I wasn't in charge.  That's probably the most intense type of power exchange I've experienced -- where there's a balance that can be felt as I'm playing.  Service bottoming puts me in a fascinating headspace.  Adding blades that my Daddy loves, watching the tension soothe out of his muscles, realizing that not only could I do this for him, but that he trusted me to.

oh. Oh, yes.

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/7/2007 4:12:02 AM   
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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/7/2007 9:55:55 AM   
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my Master slaps me quite often, with differing levels of severity depending on the circumstance. as an expression of love/affection he'll do the face tapping thing that SirDiscipliner mentioned...sometimes during sex he'll give me a few sound smacks across the face, i guess you could call that in the heat of passion. but a "serious" slap is reserved for discipline....sort of a way to get my attention, a way to tell me to watch myself, get in line, shut the f*ck up, or a quick correction for a minor wrongdoing. common situations where i've been slapped as discipline: talking too much (usually if i'm in a giddy/perky/hyper mood), mildly inappropriate public behavior (not walking behind him, looking men in the eye, etc.), having a grumpy attitude, misplacing something, etc. i think the last time i was firmly slapped it was because i had been responsible for finding the directions to a particular place and the directions turned out to be incorrect, and he slapped me a few times out of frustration. and these are brain-jarring, contact lens removing, deaf for 30 seconds type of slaps.

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/7/2007 10:20:01 AM   
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this slave got slapped as a tot as well and the first time it happened outside of the parental units it was a big turn-off, but just imagine, for a moment, that you have surrendered yourself to the Mistress of your dreams and she finds it HOT...to give such a pleasure is in and of itself more joyfull and something to be enjoyed more than toting the negative past into the present and dwelling on it for the gazillioneenth time.
 
nothing personal, michael, just sayin'.


I agree, this was my experience as well, but for me, it went a step further.  it's not that I had the negative feelings I was expecting to have, and dealt with them, it's that I didn't have the negative feelings at all. 

I was very pleasantly surprised that in this aspect of my adult life, where I have chosen to give someone the power to do that to me, my reaction was completely different than as it was a youngster where that power exchange was not there at all.

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/7/2007 10:37:07 AM   
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Hmmmmmm… For me this would be a lot like hair pulling; but more so.    To the person who mentioned ‘back-handing’….generally I doubt that is the kind of slapping we’re talking here. 
 
The face/head is rather delicate…and some care must be taken when slapping someone.  I like it when one hand sort of ‘cradles’ my face to prevent a head-jarring slap and keeps the possibility of a jaw dislocating to a minimum…but still allows for a good smack.
 
Most such slaps are mostly more like love-taps anyway (certainly there are no bruises)…but the psychological impact is what counts.  Like I said in the hair-pulling thread; I think face-slapping sort of reiterates my submission to Him…sort of like being pulled up short and plunged deeply into a wonderful space.
 
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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/7/2007 10:38:32 AM   
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I find that some like it and some don't, it makes no difference if I wish ,I shall ring her chimes..WE do have a sub that comes to play on occasions,One hard slap to the face and her emotions come flood to the top like a dam bursting and I love her that way..again it up to the Dom and what has been agreeded upon before hand ...bounty

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/7/2007 11:15:53 AM   
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I love face slapping, but I am careful about it. Before I do it with anyone new, I always ask if it is OK, if the recipient has any negative connotations attached to it. There are far too many people who carry trauma from the past that it triggers. Nothing can ruin the experience quicker than running into one of the trip wires we all carry in our heads. Instead of being something that is erotic, it sends everything spiraling sideways quickly.

           Once that information has been ascertained, I am careful about how I do it. One of the things that I like most is that despite all the toys, the floggers and ropes and cuffs and everything else, for me the most sensual thing about BDSM still comes down to touch, and face slapping can be the most intimate touch of all, mixing pleasure and pain, fear and arousal. I cradle her one cheek in my hand, usually caressing it, bringing her down with the touch, and then I start slapping, soft at first, slowly building. Safety is a concern, one of the reasons I cradle her cheek is to prevent any harm from coming to her neck. The other thing I am careful of is how my hand is cupped when I strike. I am fortunate in that I took a whole lot of martial arts when I was kid so I know something about how to strike.

           When done right it can take a girl down quicker than about anything else that I know. To look her in the eye and begin to slap and watch her glaze over has to be one of the greatest feelings I know…yummy.

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RE: My perception of face slapping is it more of a hard... - 3/7/2007 11:20:04 AM   
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          One of the things that I like most is that despite all the toys, the floggers and ropes and cuffs and everything else, for me the most sensual thing about BDSM still comes down to touch, and face slapping can be the most intimate touch of all, mixing pleasure and pain, fear and arousal. I cradle her one cheek in my hand, usually caressing it, bringing her down with the touch, and then I start slapping, soft at first, slowly building. Safety is a concern, one of the reasons I cradle her cheek is to prevent any harm from coming to her neck. The other thing I am careful of is how my hand is cupped when I strike.


Yep, perfect. Nice philosophy and technique.

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