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bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 12:24:28 AM

Master96

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I came across a profile of cute sub-girl where she says:

ok. i'm getting sick of submissive men asking me to dominate them. i dont do that. stop asking please

Why are you doing this boys? bad boys.....

Ok, my question is why would a sub being attracted to other sub to be his/her dom?

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 12:50:29 AM

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I was once in a "nilla" Yahoo chat room using my slave ID and i was approached by a submissive woman that wanted me to dominate her! I explained to her that i had tried taking the dominant role a couple of times and it just wasn't in my nature, and then went on to tell her of the benifits she could enjoy if she was the one to take the dominant role. Apparently she had not thought about it from that perspective before because she thought she liked the idea. We corresponded a few more times and she decided she wanted to meet. Long story short i ended up serving her a number of times over the next few months until she had to move to a different state. We still chat, though, and she is a very dedicated switch...leaning more to the dominant side!

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 12:58:40 AM

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That is wonderful igor2003....... :)

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 1:42:42 AM

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i have had submissive males approach me with the idea that if they ORDER me to dominate them, then i have to comply because i'm submissive. Bottoming from the top?

Honestly i think there are relatively so few Dommes available to the number of males who wish to be dominated that they will approach any female they find attractive and use the above creative arguments to see if the female will switch.

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 2:12:17 AM

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As far as the male subs ordering female subs to dominate them goes, interesting thought boys, but a little self-defeating..

i agree with eyesopened that the attempt to "turn" is driven by the demand of male subs for female domination vasting exceeding the supply of FemDommes. i have often encouraged Ladies i am attracted to who have no apparent interest in bdsm to let me serve them, though i would add that generally i am attracted to them because they have a dominant personality anyway.

i wouldn't normally approach a sub, though i can see the logic in doing so as She will already be in the scene and may be open to switching. my last Mistress was originally a sub and i am sure that many other Dommes have had this experience.

My experience with "vanilla" Ladies makes me believe that there is a Domme within most, if not all, Women, it is just a question of how easy or difficult it is to bring Her out. And We/we have to be careful not to confuse being a Domme with "agreeing to dress up in leather and whip me when i feel like it".

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 2:24:03 AM

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they have a dominant personality anyway.

My experience with "vanilla" Ladies makes me believe that there is a Domme within most, if not all, Women, it is just a question of how easy or difficult it is to bring Her out.

Ok, I'll agree that many of us do have a Domme side.
I know I do.
And over the years I have drawn submissive men like flies. <sigh>
The attempts to bring her/me out have horribly negitive effects.
difficult doesnt come... more attempts the more negitive I get.
it just doesnt feed me.

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 4:41:18 AM

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I think many of you have danced around the key reason why there will ALWAYS be more people interested in submission (or bottoming) than domination (or topping).

There's so much more responsibility in being a dominant. A lot of people are 'tired' of being dominant in real life, and need to find an outlet to take a break from that. Hence, taking a beating (just a phrase, people) is therapeutic.

The 'work' involved in watching the mind and emotions of a sub/slave is rewarding indeed, but if part of your modus is to put things on roller coaster tracks (which I do enjoy, myself), then you do have to pay quite a bit of attention and ensure that you are getting the desired results.

I don't put nearly the amount of effort and brainpower into a day job as I do in 'what I do'. But, I take 'what I do' far more seriously than real life. I have it easy.

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 5:36:42 AM

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Speaking from a strictly BBW stand point. I do not have this problem. Maybe they just want skinny little bunnies to dance around them and sleep with them.

I have two full time slaves and am always activily looking to add part or full times slaves. Though I do not accept submissives as they don't get along (as a general rule) with my slaves. I have heard that this is a problem but have yet to see it in the large women department as both my self and my apprentice are heavy and enjoy every moment of being this way. You also don't find many female slaves looking to be dominated by a female....

Maybe we should but everyone in a barrel and shake to more evenly distribute the contents.... ;)

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 5:46:36 AM

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I think it's funny when sub men make comments such as "I would switch for you...."

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 6:08:11 AM

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Speaking from a strictly BBW stand point. I do not have this problem. Maybe they just want skinny little bunnies to dance around them and sleep with them.

i'm a bbw and i get approached by male subs that want to serve me all the time.

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You also don't find many female slaves looking to be dominated by a female....

Lady Ann

i'm one of those females that was looking to be dominated by another female but have since found one

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 6:11:35 AM

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i get approached all the time and i'm guilty of being one of those that has mention in my profile to male subs and slaves to not contact me for anything beyond friendship. i'm not interested. i've found, from talking to quite a few male subs, that the reason some contact female submissives and slaves is because they think that all women are above them. i don't agree with that, i think the genders are equal, but i do find that's why many a male submissive or slave has contacted me and called me Ma'am and such

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 7:15:07 AM

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I think it's more about their fantasy wanking material and lack of Dommes who will accept them in service.
Some times I think it's due to the numbers and sometimes it's based on the level of submission or not the sub male has.
I've been begged to own, begged to search with them for someone for both of us, begged to have just a sexual relationship, begged to teach them to be more feminine, and begged to teach them to top me.
Nothing personal to any of you sub men, but I'm not attracted to a submissive man at all sexually. I need to feel my interactions from the bottom in my sexual and mated life.
I think (OK sock it to me if you must) just like most men, they think with their dick, they see a pretty body, and they are selfish enough to not care about you and your feelings, only getting off you what they want you for on their side.
Many men live their life as surfical people with about as much desire to nurture and care for your emotional well being as it takes to pacify you so you'll let them have you. Most men think subliminally the relationship is only about them like you're supposed to be a Stepford Wife or something.
You know wishing you'd just shut up and do what they want you to without worrying about if it's good for you or not.
They only seek to benefit themselves and if you fit in they'll carry you with them.
Yes, women are asses like this too, but not near as often as men.
Yes there are men who don't act like this at all.
In my life it seems to be severely accurate, so if it's not that reality for you I can accept that.
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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 7:23:50 AM

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Well, the most obvious reason to me is that they' not having any luck finding a woman to dominate them looking under the Dominant women, so now they're looking at EVERY woman.

But, it might also be a bit of psychology...if they are of such a mindset that a Fem Dom is teriffying to them (which is probably one of the reasons they're so attracted to them), finding a more submissve female to "try out" first is much less of a threat.

Or, they could simply want to top from the bottom, but not be honest about it, and a fem sub is much more likely to do or give them what they want. You'd be surprised at how many Pro Doms are submissive in their personal relationships.

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 7:38:29 AM

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I keep getting dominant men trying to get me to switch for them or just even being very rude !! And dominant women!! I think there are some of them in every group who are just bad boys and girls!!

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 7:45:31 AM

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about once a month i get a message from a male sub asking/begging me to dominate them. at first i would give polite responses: "sorry but i'm 100% submissive, not to mention happily owned as my profile states"....but after a while it gets irritating and i've started just ignoring those messages. what boggles my mind is that if they are truly submissive, then they should understand better than anyone that everyone is not a switch and that some of us just do not have a dominant bone in our bodies. also, wouldn't they desire someone who was truly Dominant and not simply playing a role?

i heartily disagree with womanworshipper's theory that a "Domme" lies within most women...i happen to believe the opposite is more likely to be true, but then that is a whole other topic. ;)

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 7:57:12 AM

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what boggles my mind is that if they are truly submissive, then they should understand better than anyone that everyone is not a switch and that some of us just do not have a dominant bone in our bodies. also, wouldn't they desire someone who was truly Dominant and not simply playing a role?

That's what i've always thought too when i get contacted, but it doesn't seem to be the case for some reason. It would never cross my mind to contact a submissive male and ask them to dominate me and call them Sir or Master or whatever, so i just can't wrap my mind around why a submissive male would do that to a submissive female.

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 8:48:04 AM

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i have met men via Yahoo IM wanting me to dom them. for me, i do it for the rush and excitement plus it does relieve all the stress i thrive on when working on reviews. it's also a way to test that hidden Domme side in me though i could never see myself as one because i like being a submissive. the guys i meet aren't really submissive in truest sense but vanilla men with certain sexual kinks since i don't require them to "serve" me. there's never any sexual contact because they are well-known and respected in their professions. one guy i regularly chat with enjoys having a woman trample and humiliate him and that bbw fantasy. another enjoys being cockold for a very long time until i grant him permission and spankings with wooden spoons.

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 8:51:55 AM

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onestandingstill.......WOW !!! men are really shit ! Why.....they all should just slash their throats.
What you say, is defintely not all exclusive to men. Women are the same, users, fakes, whatever of these 'attibutes' you apply to men; applys equally to women.
95% of the Dommes on this network are business women; their stock in trade is their bodies; they require tribute.The older, used up, less attractive of the herd; are in it to survive and earn what they can, as they cannot compete on the level of the 'beauties' that abound. And the entire SM genre requires no comittment of love, understanding, acceptance; even the slightest bit of human decency and respect to another being. SM/BD is a manipulative tool that allows for each and everyone's very own agenda.
One cannot make judgement calls on 50% of the human herd catagorically.
If one person of a gender lacks integrity, does not equate that all of that same gender lack integrity. If 10 or ten thousand lack honesty, integrity, does not equate to all. However, society demands that the entire population be penialized for the actions of the 5 percent.
As for a Dom enquiring of a Domme; to submit to, male to female and vice versa; prehaps there is alot more there than the simplistic view you offer.
As for a submissive being wholly submissive without a dominating bone- is absolutely
garbage. No one yeids wholeheartedly, absoulutey no one in the entire human herd. Every sub, man or woman or other, submits to their own desires and uses the other to attain what please themselves; both ways. Submission is just as powerful as dominance, moreso; it manipulates and controls; in fact, submission IS dominace over another.

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 8:53:46 AM

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Well, the most obvious reason to me is that they' not having any luck finding a woman to dominate them looking under the Dominant women, so now they're looking at EVERY woman.

But, it might also be a bit of psychology...if they are of such a mindset that a Fem Dom is teriffying to them (which is probably one of the reasons they're so attracted to them), finding a more submissve female to "try out" first is much less of a threat.

Or, they could simply want to top from the bottom, but not be honest about it, and a fem sub is much more likely to do or give them what they want. You'd be surprised at how many Pro Doms are submissive in their personal relationships.

Master Fire

I agree wholeheartedly...They can approach these women and hope they find a sub with a flair for topping...They don't have to pay...Possibly get strapped ...And maybe they will even get to touch some "tit."....Oh boy! Oh boy!!!

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RE: bad boys..... - 3/8/2007 9:06:01 AM

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I dont do this but i have had a submissive girl email me ones and aske me if she could dominante me and train me if i would like that so i dodnt understand that myself.
I also think that why would a Submissvie email another submissive asking them to dominate them i dont understand it
i know when someone would ask me to change i would say no why do others want to try and change ppl from who they are i dont understand but am happy to see this posted her so i could put my 2 cents in.

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I came across a profile of cute sub-girl where she says:

ok. i'm getting sick of submissive men asking me to dominate them. i dont do that. stop asking please

Why are you doing this boys? bad boys.....

Ok, my question is why would a sub being attracted to other sub to be his/her dom?

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