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People who get off or have a fantasy about being raped are very sick people

A rapeist is a coward.

4% (2)

People who fantasys about rape are sick.

0% (0)

I actually do have fantasys about rape.

65% (27)

I condone rape.

7% (3)

Rapesists should be castrated,and publicly humilated and locked up.

4% (2)

A rapeist after castration should be locked up and never released ever

9% (4)

I really don't have an opinion im very sorry.

7% (3)

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 2:57:41 PM

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Rapists are indeed, very sick people. Valyraen has a favored punishment for them featuring their genatilia and white hot swords.

However, rape fantasies are quite common in women. There is a large difference between a fantasy and something would actually turn you on to do in real life. I have many fantasies about intruders. However the first man who tries it for real will make a new friend.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 3:03:51 PM

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Rape can be about sex, it can be about power, it can be about just misunderstanding the signals.
I presume it can be about lots of other things as well.
Play rape presumably can be about lots of things as well.
What two or more people do as consenting adults is up to them.
What one or more people do to a person who is not consenting may be against the law.
It is our duty as responsible adults to make sure we know the difference.
Unfortunately for rape to occur it has to be penetration by the penis. I have recently learned.
If not I presume it is sexual assault which perhaps carries a lighter sentence.
What would I do to the perpetrator of rape. I don't know. It depends on the circumstances like everything else in life.
However the next person who tells me that a woman is asking for rape by wearing certain clothes or acting in a certain way will get a very caustic reply.
Women are sexual creatures just like men and just like men the need for sex can overide sense.
One of our main problems is that sex is still a dirty word.
If we talked about it more and did it more then perhaps it would become less evocative and destructive.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 3:08:18 PM

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That sounded like a 40 calibre BANG there......

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 3:13:17 PM

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Ok, 2 things here. (I have not yet read any other responses yet, so keep that in mind)

#1) A rape fantasy and a rape are two totally different things. That is why I could not even answer your survey. It is too far off base and does not allow for the difference between fantasy & reality

#2) To lump all the people (Male & Female) who have a Fantasy about a "controlled, agreed upon scene" with real rapists & victims is totally ludicrous.

A rapist is a very sick individual who needs to be put down in my opinion.
That being said, I have rape fantasies, and many subs I have known have fantasies of being raped. We discussed it, agreed on a scene location & limits (if any) and agreed on safe words. Then we played out the scene. This in no way shape or form means that I would want to rape an unwilling woman or that the woman I was with wanted to get raped for real.

Therefore, I am stating again... Your lumping together people with rape fantasies with rapists is as wrong as if I was to say your gay because you like it when a mistress fucks you with a strapon. Or as ridiculous as thinking that because someone sometimes likes to play out a "Daddy/daughter" scene that they condone child molestation.

Do rapist and child molesters sometimes search out subs in our community? Yes.
Just as they do everywhere these days. The answer is to spend the time to get to know the person before you meet with them. Make the first meeting in Public.
People with those kinds of sicknesses can rarely hide it for more than a month or so of daily contact with a sub.
Your post (The heading & survey) reads like you have been hurt because you ran off to someone you did not take the time to know.
If that is the case, I am sorry for your pain, but that would not be smart in the vanilla world either.
Sorry if you got hurt, but that is no reason to start making blanket statements about unrelated things like fantasies and reality. If that is the case, get yourself to a rape counselor and let him or her work with you on getting through it.

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ORIGINAL: seekstofasn8adom

In my mind.As i see a rapeist as someone who is a coward and that he or she is very sick in the head,I personally see a rape as something very bad,and something i would never condone.As in my mind all rapeists should be strug up,and castrated.But what do you all think now please?

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 3:20:16 PM

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Michael,

Rape has absolutely NOTHING to do with sex...it has everything to do with violence and anger directed at the victim. That's why the victim is often beaten, maimed, mutilated or killed. There are studies all over the medical, psychiatric and legal fields that support that. I'm talking about rapists here, NOT child molesters....they are a totally different breed of slime, with a different psychological mindset. What is involved with a rapist is different......they get off on causing pain and fear, they are intentionally using a simple sexual act as a weapon. Using foreign objects because they can't sustain an erection comes to mind. One of the sickest crime scene pics I ever saw was one of a rape victim who ended up dead because the rapist shoved a broomstick through her so hard, it was literally sticking out of her shoulder next to her neck. If you had ever seen what I have seen, you would agree wholeheartedly that sex has nothing to do with rape.

As for the rapist in the prison shower....hey, I also believe in street justice......even murderers have wives, girlfriends, children.......I have no sympathy for them when they too get to see what it was like when they took their lives from their victims.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 3:34:46 PM

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Oh, BTW seeks, After seeing some of your other posts.... You better give up the veggie and Eat some Red Meat! I think the lack of proper protien has caused you some brain damage.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 3:37:03 PM

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personally as a vicimt of rape, i am all for nailing thier offending items to a tree with a nail, then setting the tree on fire. after doing this you hand them a rusty razor blade, they then have two options. cut it off, or burn. i personally think this would be a wonderful punishment.

having said that, i still enjoy rape fantasies. it wasnt my fault, and it had nothing to do what so ever with sex. not a thing. it was just some sicko that was getting off on a power trip, period.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 3:58:15 PM

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1. Rape is not about sex. it's about power.
this is what the government wnats everyone believe since it tends to display a much more profound image to others.

2. i don't have an "arse", where i come from, it's called an "ass" and no...i don't hide in the dark ages like the government would like for us all to be. i see things as (yes, i'm gonna say it) "real"

3. if rape is not an act of sex (sexual violence, if you prefer) then why are the rapist considered sexual predators? and why are the victims called sexual victims?

< Message edited by michaelOfGeorgia -- 3/8/2007 4:06:18 PM >

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 4:26:33 PM

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Well Mikey what’s your take on assault and battery? I know I use t to hold power over my victims. It's not about ballet.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 4:44:38 PM

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1. Rape is not about sex. it's about power.
this is what the government wnats everyone believe since it tends to display a much more profound image to others.
The government? Are you on drugs?

3. if rape is not an act of sex (sexual violence, if you prefer) then why are the rapist considered sexual predators? and why are the victims called sexual victims
Rape is an act of sex but sex is not the objective for the rapist. The rapists objective is to feel power, control over their victim.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 5:05:30 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

OP

What caliber of weapon was it that you just shot yourself in the foot with?

I'm thinking a .45 at least.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 5:08:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

Actual rape hasn't a single thing to do with sex. Rape is not about sex. It's about power.
It is very interesting to me that even with all the knowledge we have access to at the click of a mouse, that anyone would still hold on to such an archaeic view, let alone publically proclaim that view, without fully educating themselves on the topic first.
Geez, for that matter, all you have to do is watch Prime Time television to get an education on the crime of rape.

Now if we are talking rape-play...
Excuse me while I go take a cold shower.

My ex-fiance told me a story of how, at work, they were informed about a rapist who had recently been caught. They showed his picture around and two of the ladies both said, "But he's really hot, why would he have to rape someone?"

*headdesk*

It took a few tries to get the point across...

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 5:08:47 PM

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Michael I can't believe you said that...Rape IS ALL about anger, rage and violence NOT SEX...When I was raped as a young girl it wasn't the sexual act that lasted the longest and what hurt me the most it was the violence. I suffer with mild seizures to this very day from the head injury I suffered...They beat me until I bled from every part of my body...the sex was the smallest part of it...there is so much rage in their eyes and even sometimes men will rape a woman with foreign objects because he is angry not because he is horny...You have never lived through it so you can't speak a word on it....point blank.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 5:11:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

1. Rape is not about sex. it's about power.
this is what the government wnats everyone believe since it tends to display a much more profound image to others.

2. i don't have an "arse", where i come from, it's called an "ass" and no...i don't hide in the dark ages like the government would like for us all to be. i see things as (yes, i'm gonna say it) "real"

3. if rape is not an act of sex (sexual violence, if you prefer) then why are the rapist considered sexual predators? and why are the victims called sexual victims?

Michael, seriously, stop being recalcitrant. If it were about sex the men wouldn't need to resort rape, they would buy a fucking hooker. Why don't you read the bios of serial rapists and the writings of people who interviewed them?

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 5:16:40 PM

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it seems others are upset with my statements, for that, i am sorry

i retract my statement in order to restore peace to the forums

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 5:19:30 PM

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Mikey, if a Domme... you know you have many fans... tied you down and butt fucked you with a strap on, would it be sex?

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 5:22:32 PM

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Dude you suck at making polls. Both times there have never been any options that I would pick. find another lifestyle and save yourself alot of trouble, it's no easier to get any action here than the vanilla world.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 5:26:57 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

1. Rape is not about sex. it's about power.
this is what the government wnats everyone believe since it tends to display a much more profound image to others.

2. i don't have an "arse", where i come from, it's called an "ass" and no...i don't hide in the dark ages like the government would like for us all to be. i see things as (yes, i'm gonna say it) "real"

3. if rape is not an act of sex (sexual violence, if you prefer) then why are the rapist considered sexual predators? and why are the victims called sexual victims?

gosh, I didn't know it was the government that decided rape wasn't about sex.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 5:28:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JerseyKrissi72

Michael I can't believe you said that...Rape IS ALL about anger, rage and violence NOT SEX...When I was raped as a young girl it wasn't the sexual act that lasted the longest and what hurt me the most it was the violence. I suffer with mild seizures to this very day from the head injury I suffered...They beat me until I bled from every part of my body...the sex was the smallest part of it...there is so much rage in their eyes and even sometimes men will rape a woman with foreign objects because he is angry not because he is horny...You have never lived through it so you can't speak a word on it....point blank.

my experience was somewhat similar. the violence was far worse than the sexual part, and it seemed the sex was just one way to express violence. i haven't ever really thought of it that clearly (especially not as an explanation for rape being about power) until i read your post though...thank you for posting this.

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RE: People who get off or have a fantasy about being ra... - 3/8/2007 5:40:35 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

it seems others are upset with my statements, for that, i am sorry

i retract my statement in order to restore peace to the forums

It's a shame that stupidity can't be retracted as easily.

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