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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/8/2007 9:10:35 PM

slavemaia

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i think work, like anything else is an attitude. i've owned and operated my own company and still saw myself as a submissive - i served those who hired me is all. Now i'm a secretary (temporarily) and the submission line is alot clearer. But overall i think it's how a particular position or job is experienced by the person doing it. i could be the CEO of a large corporation and still experience myself as submissve - in service to those under me - serving them. It's similar to another post where a dominant asked if having a sub keep them on track made them less dominant.

i believe dominance and submission are internal things and so the outward circumstances and positions don't necessarily dictate how a person feels inwardly. i can be a slave and still carry huge responsibilities.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/8/2007 9:22:24 PM

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I work in health care so I wear a uniform and ensure that whatever the doctor orders for a patient is taken care of. IMO what I do is serving the patients, doctors, nurses, and other hospital staff to do their jobs competently and correctly. For me, it's the perfect position for the kind of service submissive that I am.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/8/2007 10:38:16 PM

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I'm a self-employed farmer, investor, and futureish. I'm the boss, but also most of the time the only labour force . I have to deel with cattle most of the time. So I have a lot of knowledge when it comes to handling large animals, and you definately have to let them know who's the boss. I n a way I would say dominance is a little bit compatiable with what I do.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/8/2007 10:48:34 PM

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I spent many years as an executive assistant for CEO's of mid to large organizations. One job in particular I supported the CEO, CFO and two senior VPs as we took the company public and went on a mergers & acquisitions frenzy. My job was to help incorporate the new companies into ours, and to help file all the papers with the SEC. Much of what I did was confidential work, even to the other executives in the company. If you weren't the CEO or CFO, I could not talk about it. It was exciting stuff and kept me quite busy.

Now I am an analyst. I manage department budgets and run various reports which requires me to "encourage" other managers to submit their work to me. Since we have a couple of new managers this year, I have spent significant time training them on our budget process, among other things. I work with great people, and help them whenever I can. I have signature authority, a company credit card, and work fairly independently, although as a whole we work as a really good team. I enjoy it.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/8/2007 11:43:50 PM

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I am a senior financial professional in a very large media company in the UK. In the past I have been General Manager of a large Arts and Media Centre and have also been an Accounts manager and a systems trainer. All the roles I have had from a very early age have been supervisory or managerial. To most people, including my family and friends, I am assertive and independent. For the last 2 and a half years I have been totally submissive to my Master.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 1:29:19 AM

krikket

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We have very similar jobs, angelic, a job that's a contradiction in some ways - part that feeds the submissive side, and another part that i've learned to enjoy. These days i'm in an interesting position with one of my attorneys. For various reasons i won't mention, i think she's in a very strict D/s relationship (as the sub) with her same sex partner, who is also an attorney. We're both good at our jobs, except her job has many new aspects while mine is pretty much the same. When we're discussing something that needs doing, i often find her eyes averted and her position not exactly the one of someone "in charge", which can be difficult, but..i'm learning too..lol.

The best job i've ever had was one in which my boss called me "radar" after the guy in the show "MASH" because after a while i was often able to anticipate his needs and show up with the file, pen, whatever he needed. It didn't occur to him that my desk was close enough to his office i could often over hear what he was doing..lol).

As someone's submissive i believe my purpose is simple -- to make their lives easier (among other things..lol), and as a legal/executive assistant, my purpose is the same. i've done a lot of learning to develope the skills i use every day on the job, and just that, in many ways, i've had to learn my "skills" as a submissive and continue to learn every day.

Thanks for a great thread. Stretching my mind so early in the morning is a great way to start the day. :)

warmly,
jimini

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic

What a fun thread! i am a legal assistant for the in-house counsel of a national corporation. It is a somewhat odd position in that i am always waiting hand and foot on attorneys (ok maybe not literally, it just feels like it some days), yet they rely heavily on me to know what i am doing and being in control of any given situation. They have the final word, since it is their name and bar number at the bottom of that pleading or document; however, they also know that if they are saying something or quoting case law that i think is incorrect, they know i am aggressive enough to speak up. i guess what i am trying to say (in a very wordy manner) is that i have to be submissive enough to STFU and do as i am told and dominant enough to 'have their backs'.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 2:03:01 AM

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In ~title~ I go by managing lead, although that's somewhat misleading.
what it really means is I keep the handfull under me trained and productive
while I do the same job they do, and handle the customer service with accounts.
I have noticed one thing in this position that I think relates well with D/s.
My immediate supervisor (thank god he's not stationed where i am) could
never be my Master. Half the time he cant look me in the eye.
Something I wont forget to watch for when job shopping the next time.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 4:01:21 AM

StellaByStarlite

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Hello. =)

What a cool thread! I was a resteraurant manager up until November, now I'm a housewife. =) We're making plans for me to go back to school in the fall, for vet tech. Would working with animals be classified as submissive? At any rate, it will suit me, since I love animals and genuinely enjoy taking care of them.

My poor owner. He has such an emotionally draining job. He's a social worker. Specifically, a "Family Planning Specialist" who matches up potential adoptive families with Ums. It's not nearly as rewarding as it sounds. The Ums he works with are ones who got yanked out of abusive situations, they're usually pretty damaged. So no, his job doesn't match his dominant personality at all. It's a thankless mental grind, all his natural caretaking qualities are wasted.

Dang, it just occured to me that I can't go into detail about either one of our jobs because of TOS. Oh, well, lol. You folks wouldn't want to hear the ugly details anyway, trust me.

Cheers,
Stella

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 4:20:28 AM

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I was a market research analyst for many years (at least 8 years). I've also been a customer service supervisor. I've never had a problem being a "boss" type in a job, even though I am mostly submissive (but will throw a wrench into the mix here by saying I am also a Switch).

When I was a boss, I was the kind of boss who had a definite authoritarian (vs. "collaborative") streak, but definitely mixed with an understanding that simply barking orders is only (IMO) very rarely effective in the long-term. So, I tried to find out what motivated individual people, and then did that, to get the best work from them.

I think my not minding being a boss might also be related to being the oldest child in my family-of-origin; I am just "naturally bossy" sometimes, despite being submissive, too, as far as a bdsm inclination (maybe that has something to do w/ me being a Switch, I am not sure).

I liked being a boss, because at least that gave me a say-so how the work got done, and when, and quality really mattered to me (a lot) in my jobs, and I always hated it when something got screwed up that ruined a project, if I thought it really could have turned out a lot better if I'd had some "say-so," as far as managing it.

So after many years, I figured out that I really liked working alone, and started doing free-lance work, because it gave me the best of both worlds, IMO. As a submissive, I enjoyed catering to other people's needs, but I also hated if having too many other people working on a project spoiled the end result. So I became an enterprenuer for awhile, and managed my own research projects for small businesses (maybe that's what "Switches, do sometimes? I dunno)

Now I do a fair amount of volunteer stuff, which I do think might be related (for me) to me being submissive (although I realize Dom types do volunteer stuff, too).

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 3/9/2007 4:34:48 AM >

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 4:45:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

(although I realize Dom types do volunteer stuff, too).

Yes, it is a thankless job, but from time to time we are called upon to dish out a spanking or two. Voluntarily, of course.

Now there's work!!

Jeff

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 4:49:58 AM

SusanofO

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mstrjax: Yes, you Dom types do have it rough, hehe.

- Susan

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And never stops at all". - Emily Dickinson

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 5:00:28 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

mstrjax: Yes, you Dom types do have it rough, hehe.

- Susan

Not to mention that it doesn't pay in actual currency, being voluntary. You couldn't sustain that as your primary job if it doesn't put bread on the table.

But the perks.......

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 5:26:37 AM

jauntyone

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Both Master and I are in the military, though his rank puts him more on the dominant side than that of submissive.

melissa

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 5:39:38 AM

sambamanslilgirl

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Daddy is a psychiatrist 4 days a week and always on call for his patients 24/7 during nights and weekends.

me - i'm a concert reviewer for Fearless Radio, an internet radio station. i really don't report to anyone since i'm essentially my own boss (though there are 2 bosses) because i get to pick and choose the concerts i attend plus how many nights a week i work and which bands i want to review. for example i'm working Thursday and Friday to review one band only and then will return on the concert scene 20th for another cable access show taping after taking a week off. as long as i turn in 2 reviews (sometimes 3) a week, my bosses are happy.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 5:44:29 AM

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I'm a Registered Nurse, I work in psych with addicts. I teach too. I was working as a nurse manager but gave that up to go back to being one of the little people. I do not like being the boss...I loathe the responsbility.

My owner is an attorney, Dean at a university, and business owner(Real estate developer, intermodeal container movement, nursing agency, and ebay business) essentially anything that makes money because money gives him options...extremely independent and on the top of the food chain at work...he loves having responsbility and control over outcomes and subordinates.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 6:12:06 AM

petdave

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My workplace is a bit odd, because we're a satellite office of a large corporation, but the company is disorganized enough that we don't fit very well into the structure. For example, technically, i do not know what my job title is, or who i directly report to. But, i have one colleague that i work with, we have about the same level of seniority, and more or less lateral job duties. In the time we've worked together, our working relationship has evolved to him making all the decisions and serving as our front-man, and i do most of the hard number crunching. We recently hired two other people to serve as assistants. Even though they're subordinate to me, i feel uncomfortable asking either one of them to do anything, because that's not what i do!, and route all my requests through my colleague. Pretty much the only time i assert myself in the workplace is when i know somebody is going to fuck up something that i'm responsible for.

But, i'm fairly socially dysfunctional, so i can't blame it all on my sub nature... fortunately, i'm a database programmer/data analyst, so i can spend a lot of time hiding behind my monitor doing whatever needs to be done.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 7:14:31 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavemaia

i believe dominance and submission are internal things and so the outward circumstances and positions don't necessarily dictate how a person feels inwardly. i can be a slave and still carry huge responsibilities.

Thanks for all the response so far. But, I want to point out this particular thought that I very much agree with.

It's not what we do... so much as how we do it. Our inner natures can have a huge impact on how we perform the positions. Also, I think some positions have little to do with these inner natures of Dominance and Submission... but feed other aspects of our selves, I think szobras is a good example of this.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 7:23:35 AM

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I work at the county jail. Every day, I am locked in a dorm with 72 criminal men or women and it is my job to make ALL their decisions (when they shower, how loud the tv can be, when they go to bed etc.) I have to make sure they follow all the rules (including "make your bed" "clean your room" etc). I have to be extremely aggressive and dominant, especially with the men, in order to get my job done.

In my private life, I am also more dominant. Within my circle of friends, I am universally considered the ring leader. I decide where we eat, what movie we see, etc.

When dealing with strangers, I'm dominant almost to the point of being a bitch (just ask any sales person, waiter, or customer service person who ever pissed me off or didn't let me have my way.) I attribute much of this to being a spoiled only child and to carrying home with me my attitude from work.

I am dominant in my hobby as well. I ride and train horses...where establishing control and dominance is paramount to successful results.

However, when I am around a dominant man to whom I've given myself, I am a different human being. For him, and him only, I can open up and fall at his feet and be completely at his mercy, dedicated to serving and pleasing him.

For a long time, I had doubts as to whether or not I was a "true submissive" based on the fact that I was so dominant in my outside life and work life. But I've had enough dominant men assure me as to my "realness" that I no longer worry. I've had 3 separate men whom I was involved with tell me that I was the most extreme sub they had ever dealt with and that the depth of my submissive desires (both in and out of the bedroom) was almost frightening.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 7:40:10 AM

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This has been a fascinating thread to read.

I am an RN and work in an ER/Trauma center. I actually graduated pre med and thought about becoming a doctor but realized that I enjoyed being able to care for patients was way more for me then having to treat patients and I have always assumed this was because of my submissive nature.

At the same time though my job entails me having to be assertive and oversee people in high stress situations so there is also that huge draw of able to come home and just focus on one thing, pleasing my owner that is so relaxing and peaceful.

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RE: Work Life & Private Life - 3/9/2007 8:47:07 AM

ownedgirlie

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavemaia

i believe dominance and submission are internal things and so the outward circumstances and positions don't necessarily dictate how a person feels inwardly. i can be a slave and still carry huge responsibilities.

Thanks for all the response so far. But, I want to point out this particular thought that I very much agree with.

It's not what we do... so much as how we do it. Our inner natures can have a huge impact on how we perform the positions. Also, I think some positions have little to do with these inner natures of Dominance and Submission... but feed other aspects of our selves, I think szobras is a good example of this.

Good point, Knight. Personally I am multifaceted. I get a rush out of juggling mutliple projects at work, and eliciting compliance by others. And I'm good at it. But at the end of the day, my home is at my Master's feet. I could not do all that I do without that. There is a quote in one of my favorite movies, "Mrs. Brown," (a period piece about Queen Victoria, starring Judi Dench & Billy Connelly) in which Dench's character tells her servant (who is obviously her dominant), "You give me the strength to be who I must be." These words struck home with me.

On a previous thread, my post was held up as the poster child for how a working slave can not fully submit in her slavery, as she must serve another Master (her job). I disagree with that, as my own Master comes first, even before my job, and has pulled me from work at his whim, for his reasons. Further, excelling at work meets one of his requirements of me. But I could not do as well as I do at work without knowing it is my submission to my Master which drives me. I wonder, do Dominants and Masters feel they are submitting to a Master when they go to work?

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