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I was wonder how come when you try and make friends wit... - 3/10/2007 9:24:52 AM   
lonlyrossInNeed


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I also posted this in Ask a Master Becouse i am trying to get as mouch feedback as possible on this thank you .

I was wondering How come when i try to Meet and make new friends ON COllarMe .
 
i have no profile making friends with Dommes and submissives .
 
But when it comes to Reading A Pro's Profile .
 
And is seem  like they are someone that one would make a friend with
 
And i try to email them to make a new friendship

You never hear back from them except only on Here to find Sessions not firends.

I have friends who have sayd they get the same thing
I am curiouse
Why is this ?
 
THank you .
 
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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 9:40:50 AM   
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Hello dear,
ProDommes are on this list for new and regular customers first; not friends first. When you become a regular customer, friendship often develops. But since that is not Their intitial desire; an offer of friendship-first looks like a waste of time to Them. It is not personal.
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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 9:43:20 AM   
lonlyrossInNeed


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I just wish that it was easier to make a good friendship
I wish they could see that there is sometimes more to it then just finding a client
thank you

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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 9:48:15 AM   
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It's her job.  I don't go to my office to find friends either.  I have been known to befriend colleagues, but that's not the reason I'm there.


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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 9:52:20 AM   
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The majority of people on here arent looking for just friends. Pros especialy, since we are fooded with responses sometimes, friendship offers fall to the wayside.  They gain nothing of making friends online, when the time could be used fostering potential paying clients.
Maybe the problem you have making friends is that you are specifically looking to talk to the pros.  Most of the time, the ones offering friendship to pros online are hoping to make friends, and then get "freebie" sessions later on.  Becasue this happens, friendships are not exactly trusted right off, either.  If you want friends, try taking to those who arent makeing professional contacts, but just personal and social ones.  You might have better luck.

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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 9:53:45 AM   
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People are here usually to fulfill their own needs. For a professional sex worker that means finding good customers.
I am reminded of the many times I have heard women ask why when they try to make friends with a guy at the bar, he just tries to get into her pants...Same deal, the two are seeking different things and are NOT negotiating things well.
If you truly seek professional Domme friends, you may try attending local BD/SM discussion groups and events in your area, and volunteering to do work on projects for the local events.
And yes, at times a male or female sex worker in any field MIGHT become friendly towards a customer who is prompt, respectful, gives sweet presents and tips well. There are NO guarantees this will happen.


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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 9:56:00 AM   
lonlyrossInNeed


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I have thout in the past that it was becouse they only seek session clients
i have made friends with a few pros i am not
seeking just to make friens with pro's but i do understand what you are saying i know alot out here seek freebies well that would not be me
i may just be a dog groomer but
i know waht you mean about work i dont have many many co works becouse i own the business and am the boss
but we still make friends with others alot
and sometimes with the clients if there not toal jurks
that always complain about there dogs
i just wish that some could see that you just seek friendship
but i guess there is realy no way to change anyone .

ross.g

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ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

The majority of people on here arent looking for just friends. Pros especialy, since we are fooded with responses sometimes, friendship offers fall to the wayside.  They gain nothing of making friends online, when the time could be used fostering potential paying clients.
Maybe the problem you have making friends is that you are specifically looking to talk to the pros.  Most of the time, the ones offering friendship to pros online are hoping to make friends, and then get "freebie" sessions later on.  Becasue this happens, friendships are not exactly trusted right off, either.  If you want friends, try taking to those who arent makeing professional contacts, but just personal and social ones.  You might have better luck.

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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 9:56:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lonlyrossInNeed

I also posted this in Ask a Master Becouse i am trying to get as mouch feedback as possible on this thank you .

I was wondering How come when i try to Meet and make new friends ON COllarMe .
 
i have no profile making friends with Dommes and submissives .
 
But when it comes to Reading A Pro's Profile .
 
And is seem  like they are someone that one would make a friend with
 
And i try to email them to make a new friendship

You never hear back from them except only on Here to find Sessions not firends.

I have friends who have sayd they get the same thing
I am curiouse
Why is this ?
 
THank you .
 
ross.g




here's a clue: try flashing some money at them...they just might anwser back then.

< Message edited by michaelOfGeorgia -- 3/10/2007 10:03:59 AM >


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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 9:59:23 AM   
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THE best way ross to impress is to enter ,fall on your face with a bundle of money smiles...There are plenty of dommes "not pros" that may be interested in you and what you have to offer them.IN their world"pros" money makes and drives their world...  As always just the opinion of this ol" master and subject to changes...bounty

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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 10:03:04 AM   
lonlyrossInNeed


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i have met some pro dommes that i have made friends with
and when we go out we trea each other at times somtimes we pay for our selfs and someone we will go out have fun and just one will pay for the entire evening i have been lucky to make wonderfull friends and souch who i have
but some i just dont understand but this Post and all the replys our helping me to understand More
THank you eveyrone ;)

ross.g

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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 10:03:39 AM   
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Why is it you are approaching women who advertise here as prodommes for possible friendship?  If they're here advertising for clients, then that's what their here looking for.  You can't walk into a business and expect those running the business to drop everything on company time to take the time to get to know you because you decide you want to be friends with them.

As a lifestyle Domme, I've found most boys who approach me online saying "Hi, let's be friends" are primarily looking for sex chat, possibly play with no strings attached.   Consequently, I've learned to be very cautious of them.  However, I've struck up some really good conversations with folks who contacted me to talk about something - usually something in my profile or something I've said on the boards, and those HAVE developed into friendships of sorts.   There's also something very desparate about someone who wants to contact me online saying "Hi, let's be friends" and think that equals instant friendship.  It doesn't. 

If you're truly looking for lifestyle friends - don't bug the prodommes who are here working.  If you contact lifestyle dommes, try to start up an interesting conversation and see where it goes - don't pester them for insta-friendship. 

Your absolutely BEST bet to develop lifestyle friends is to turn off the computer, and get yourself out to some local munches and other events.  Volunteer to do things like help set up, etc,  if there are opportunities for that.  Be friendly with everyone.   See where it goes.  Don't force the issue.

Good luck to you.


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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 10:10:23 AM   
lonlyrossInNeed


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I would like tos ay i dont apraoch them if they say clearly in there profile that they just want sessions i mean i dont aproud them all the time sometimes i can read a profile and see somthing where they may be intrested in a friend perhaps
but i  go looking for pros and email them just for that
sorry if i gave that inpression

he is somthing that i have also had happe by pro's who have emailed me

I am not the Slave to wave money at someoone just to get results
I have lurned that it not nice to wave money at others
i have friends that think becouse they have bigger and deeper pokets they can get more but me with the same pokets and even deeper then some i dont do it becouse its not nice to do .

On my profile i have some photos i have been ask why some dont work for some ppl but i have photos of me in isreal and in CHina standing near my Mercedes s500  and i have actuly had some pro's email me and start a conversation with hey nice car do you travle alot and by the end of the day after 10 emails back and woth they are getting to the point where they no i have money and they think i will come serve them and have a session and they think they can do this becouse they see me and my car and that i have houses in isreal china and a few over the united stats i hate it when they do this but i will entertain them with emaisl but i also cant stand when at the end of it they say thank you for wasting my time when they where the ones to initaiate a converstation

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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

Why is it you are approaching women who advertise here as prodommes for possible friendship?  If they're here advertising for clients, then that's what their here looking for.  You can't walk into a business and expect those running the business to drop everything on company time to take the time to get to know you because you decide you want to be friends with them.

As a lifestyle Domme, I've found most boys who approach me online saying "Hi, let's be friends" are primarily looking for sex chat, possibly play with no strings attached.   Consequently, I've learned to be very cautious of them.  However, I've struck up some really good conversations with folks who contacted me to talk about something - usually something in my profile or something I've said on the boards, and those HAVE developed into friendships of sorts.   There's also something very desparate about someone who wants to contact me online saying "Hi, let's be friends" and think that equals instant friendship.  It doesn't. 

If you're truly looking for lifestyle friends - don't bug the prodommes who are here working.  If you contact lifestyle dommes, try to start up an interesting conversation and see where it goes - don't pester them for insta-friendship. 

Your absolutely BEST bet to develop lifestyle friends is to turn off the computer, and get yourself out to some local munches and other events.  Volunteer to do things like help set up, etc,  if there are opportunities for that.  Be friendly with everyone.   See where it goes.  Don't force the issue.

Good luck to you.



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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 10:11:34 AM   
lonlyrossInNeed


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I do go out to local munchs and i do travle for some that are near by aslo
like to night i am going to a Munch in COlumbus ohio
so im not the submissive that is just online .

ross.g


Your absolutely BEST bet to develop lifestyle friends is to turn off the computer, and get yourself out to some local munches and other events.  Volunteer to do things like help set up, etc,  if there are opportunities for that.  Be friendly with everyone.   See where it goes.  Don't force the issue.

Good luck to you.

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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 10:15:34 AM   
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Personally, I think you are a bit over obsessed with the concept of money so that almost all of your contacts with female dominants is going to fit some kind of economic exchange with and for you. I have a large number of friends who over the years have been professional dominants (and submissives for that matter), but I think that if I ever focused on money, like putting up pictures of an expensive car or expensive homes, I'd have a hard time interacting with them as regular people, or even getting them to take me seriously at that level.

You're rarely going to succeed by writing someone out of the blue saying you want to be friends. It might work for some people, but I think you're discovering how hard that really is. However, you can make a lot of friends by posting a lot about a lot of different issues so that those who agree with you or find your thoughts interesting, might actually strike up conversations that lead to friendships.


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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 10:20:02 AM   
lonlyrossInNeed


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i am not upsessed with money the only reason i posed some pictures like that isbecouse its where i look the best in from some of my travles
like there are pictures of me in isreal and in other country where i have been in a hospital bed
becouse i have fallen and broken my ankle
i also get lots of emailed on how did that happen do you still travle alot
and yes i travle i am internationaly know as one of the worlds top 1000 grooms and one of the countrys top 100 groomers and animal care givers.

ross.g

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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

Personally, I think you are a bit over obsessed with the concept of money so that almost all of your contacts with female dominants is going to fit some kind of economic exchange with and for you. I have a large number of friends who over the years have been professional dominants (and submissives for that matter), but I think that if I ever focused on money, like putting up pictures of an expensive car or expensive homes, I'd have a hard time interacting with them as regular people, or even getting them to take me seriously at that level.

You're rarely going to succeed by writing someone out of the blue saying you want to be friends. It might work for some people, but I think you're discovering how hard that really is. However, you can make a lot of friends by posting a lot about a lot of different issues so that those who agree with you or find your thoughts interesting, might actually strike up conversations that lead to friendships.



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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 10:21:50 AM   
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I have had some Pro dommes email me when my old profile would actuly have what i do and that i am a dog groomer they want to trade services somtimes like they will offer me a Session in exchange for Grooming there dog's
when i would get that if they where local wich i dont understand why the non locals would say this but i would say you dont have to offer a session
for me to give your dog a groom if y ou are a friend of mind i groom there dog's for free

ross.g

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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 10:52:40 AM   
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Perhaps they aren't looking for friends/have enough already.
Why are you looking to them for friendship?    M

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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 10:53:11 AM   
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It's her job.  I don't go to my office to find friends either.  I have been known to befriend colleagues, but that's not the reason I'm there.



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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 10:59:07 AM   
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I doubt that this is a matter of professional dominants--or anyone else--being unable to understand that you want to be friends with them, and that you're not looking for free fantasy fulfillment. I think it's a matter of people not wanting to befriend you. Friends, playmates, or otherwise, when you approach someone, it's wise to have an idea of BOTH why you want to befriend or play with the person you're approaching AND why he or she might want to befriend or play with you.

You could also define friendship more clearly. Saying that you want companionship for activities like going to movies or going hiking, or that you want to have conversations and debates about current events, is more precise than "I want to be friends" and could offer more success. Your last post about service trades and friendship was especially confused on this point. Are you saying that you would offer free dog grooming to anyone to declared himself or herself to be your friend? This seems like bad business--why wouldn't all your customers waltz into your office and declare themselves your friends? If that's not so, what would someone have to do to induce you to give them the gift of your professional time?

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RE: I was wonder how come when you try and make friends... - 3/10/2007 11:20:55 AM   
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How come when I try to pet a cobra at the zoo I wake up in a hospital 6 hours later with an IV drip and boils all over my skin?



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