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durhampainslave -> RE: An difference i often see between male and female Doms. (4/3/2005 6:44:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Real femdoms want a man with some self esteem and worthiness. The entire "I am not worthy" is a fantasy perpetuated by *men* not women.


Much as I like a woman who wants to see me kneel and beg I couldn’t be with someone who didn’t really like me as a person. Or who thinks my being a guy makes me inherently inferior.

D/s without the personal connection just doesn’t seem worth pursuing.

Richard




Seductress -> RE: An difference i often see between male and female Doms. (4/3/2005 8:35:43 PM)

Everyone is diffrent in what they want. Some subs want and may even need to feel that they are less then the dominant. This is not a one size fits all lifestyle. You custom make it to suit yourself and whoever it is you are experiencing it with. I personally think a mind and a spine are attractive traits in a submissive. I am picky, but that does not mean that I feel I am better then a sub simply because I happen to be dominant. I do think that a submissive should do their best to impress, after all they are offering up their service and I don't know anyone who wants someone too lazy to make an effort.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: An difference i often see between male and female Doms. (4/3/2005 9:04:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
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ORIGINAL: nella
Male Dom: I am a Man, i like to be in control, you will obey my comands.

Female Dom: I am Dominant, you are not worthy to talk to me.

Your view of Female Dom is exactly what male porno, designed to appeal to *men*, portrays. And it is the single biggest roadblock real femdoms face when meeting a submissive partner. How many lead off with the "I am a worthless worm" approach? Too many. Akasha

Bravo Ms Akasha!
I'm not sure how it is she's running into majority Bitch Goddess, but in my experience (though short), the only times I've seen worm used is when male subs have approached me describing selves this way online; of course it leads nowhere, because it's their opening line to their "I don't respect you as a woman, so I will be using you as jerkoff material online" conversation. It always aggravates me to no end. M




nella -> RE: An difference i often see between male and female Doms. (4/4/2005 3:04:22 AM)

Thank you all for your responses.




Oumae -> RE: An difference i often see between male and female Doms. (4/4/2005 6:08:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: nella

Most of them i have met are online. Me and my finace want to start out in this lifestyle, and we dont have alot of experience and have turned to the internett to learn as we have not been abel to find many that practice BDSM in our erea. So yes most of those pepole i speak of i have met online.


I have no wish to make a sweeping generalisation as I use online as a medium to meet and chat to others but SOME who use online do it just for fantasy and as stated before this fits with some people's fantasy of a Domme. I myself have talked to male subs who were upset when I didnt order them about straight away and I have been told I am not Domme as I am too "nice". Some have very set ideas on what a sub or Dom/me should be like. I don't like to be put in a box.




MadameDahlia -> RE: An difference i often see between male and female Doms. (4/4/2005 11:58:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: nella

i can understand the problem of many saying they are sothing they are not, and many are just after kinky sex. But it is werry common to get rude replies if a sub speaks of any of his or her fantasies from female Dominants. Usualy it is the you are not a real submissive becouse you have some desires yourself reply. It can get werry frustrating, i have not often had that exact rsponse myself, sinse i usualy dont discuss my desires like that and i have a Dominant and are not realy looking for a partner. But i have been called un submissive for defending some of the poor boys that come in here and have their heads bit of.


Hi there nella! I'm going to toss in my $.02 here. The loving, informed FemDoms have a hard time of finding a good match because they're faced with people who have watched too much porn. They get people who come to them pleading, "Please Mistress - take this worthless slut and make his depraved tongue clean your toilets. Then force this horrible whore to pleasure you for hours and hours - giving you extreme pleasure!" I for one don't want someone's first email to be something they've pulled out of a sex tape or erotic book. I want to see the real person. I want to see the man or woman before I even think about contemplating a relationship with the person.

Now if I (or other FemDoms) were to ask a submissive individual, "What sort of fetish activities are you interested in?" it would be an indication of interest. But to have them approach us on virtual hands and knees telling us that they are worthless (not the other way around!!) then I get annoyed... I get disgusted. I get turned off. I mentally shut down communication. Why would I want someone who considers him/herself worthless?

Let me turn it around a bit... Suppose a Dominant male approached you and said, "Slut! You're mine. That means you don't have any say. You are to lick me until I wake up in the morning. Then you finish me off so I can go shower while you get your ass in the kitchen and make me some breakfast!" Now suppose that this is his first letter to you. He hasn't shown you respect. He hasn't tried to get to know you. He doesn't care about YOUR needs or desires. He wants his satisfaction first and foremost.

Turn it around just once more. Suppose you're a Dominant Lady and a submissive male/female approached you - offering you their fantasies in the same fashion. Rather than complimenting your profile, rather than getting to know you they spill everything they want YOU to do for THEM! Wouldn't it be a bit of a nightmare?

I've had the type who approach me, calling themselves worthless and disgusting. I tell them I'm not interested in something worthless. Would I own a broken lamp? Would I keep a shattered coffee mug? Nope. Why then would I want a "worthless slut" in my home? I ask them that. They tend to disappear after I reply in that way.

They want the porn FemDom reply. They want to hear, "Oh good god where have you been all my life? Clean my floors you nasty boy... mm... with your tongue. Oooh baby... now clean me."

As for you being unsubmissive ignore the idiots. They don't know you. They haven't bothered asking the right questions to get to know you. A submissive male or female doesn't mean weakness or stupidity. Submissive individuals are very strong, passionate people. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Pardon the rambling. I'm sleepy.

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

Putting up a profile as a Domme doesn't make someone a Domme. It means they are able to type.


-laughs- I do read the profiles sometimes when I'm bored or when I've been reading the posts of other people and want to get a peek at them on a more personal level.

And let me tell you... -impish grin- Putting up a profile doesn't necessarily mean they can type!




LoneGoddess -> RE: An difference i often see between male and female Doms. (4/6/2005 12:31:32 AM)

Exactly. Thanks Akasha.

Which explains why I don't enjoy extreme humiliation, degradation and verbal humiliation play in the least (it truly makes me lose respect for the man who asks for it). It fosters the belief that they are worthless in my eyes. Now I don't know where men got the idea that a woman would want anything to do with a worthless worm, but they sure come on that way to us Dommes, on a surprisingly regular basis. I am long past being annoyed at that approach, the delete button works well. But as my profile states: Confidence is a requirement. It's no fun to dominate a worthless worm when there is no power to exchange. Worms are powerless by definition. Confidence is soooo much more gratifying to play with and respect is required to truly love someone. Maybe I am "relationship based", but I wouldn't blanket all Dommes in that statement, it's simply not true.

Worms need not apply.

~LG




MsSilvie -> RE: An difference i often see between male and female Doms. (4/6/2005 9:26:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

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ORIGINAL: MsSilvie

Granted, I don't see a lot of this on the board, or in rl. Honestly though, you don't have to hardly open you eyes to find plenty of "ON YOUR KNEES, WORM!" sorts of female dominant profiles.


I'm not seeking a Domme and do not bother to read their profiles. I have seen a few when they have written to my sub.


Honestly, I'm quite surprised you haven't ever looked over profiles. It is both educating and entertaining. It helps to have a perspective on what people see who are just starting to explore bdsm and wander onto a site like this.



And your font just looks like pink to me. It's not my monitor.




onceburned -> RE: An difference i often see between male and female Doms. (4/6/2005 9:58:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MsSilvie
And your font just looks like pink to me. It's not my monitor.


This is pinker, I think.

But I agree that reading the profiles both of Dommes and subs can be enligtening and at time entertaining.




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