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Told my spouse - 4/3/2005 9:06:34 PM   
gdslvr


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about my desire to be Dominated. She said "we need to seek marriage conseling". So much for that.

In the Chicago area does anyone know a counselor sensitive to FemDom? I dont want to give up that easily.





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RE: Told my spouse - 4/3/2005 9:21:26 PM   
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quote:

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about my desire to be Dominated. She said "we need to seek marriage conseling". So much for that.

In the Chicago area does anyone know a counselor sensitive to FemDom? I dont want to give up that easily.






How did you tell her? How long have you been married?

I think vanilla women often completely freak out depending on how they are told. But some, if told in a certain way, can be very responsive. The thing is, the submissive has to make sure she does not have her head filled immediately with stereotypes of women in leather with whips, of men crawling on the floor in dog collars, and stuff out of the Jerry Springer show.

Also, I think if the couple already has pre-existing problems with sexual intimacy or communication, it's just adding fuel to the fire.

I've had good success with subs reading the "The Good Girl's Guide to Domination" I wrote and sharing it with their spouse. Maybe it can give you some ideas:

http://www.akashaweb.com/goodgirl.html

Best of luck,
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RE: Told my spouse - 4/3/2005 10:08:09 PM   
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I have a friend I met through collarme who's wife had the exact same reaction. (He plays the other side, though, and needs to Top.)

They sought out marriage counceling. Wasn't even a spesifically kink-friendly therapist, but one who didn't condem it. They talked a whole lot, and both came to understandings. His marriage is now working very well and he has a very devoted girl who serves him.

Don't dispare. There -can- be good outcomes.

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RE: Told my spouse - 4/3/2005 10:50:51 PM   
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Congratuations on telling her. I hope things work out for you.

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RE: Told my spouse - 4/3/2005 11:26:55 PM   
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quote:

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about my desire to be Dominated. She said "we need to seek marriage conseling". So much for that.

In the Chicago area does anyone know a counselor sensitive to FemDom? I dont want to give up that easily.

First my self centered thinking kicked in and said "why haven't I ever married anyone like you?"
I'm sorry she freaked out, but give her some time to learn more about it (if she is a smart woman concerned with the happiness of her marriage she will), and continue to talk about it in addition to going to relationship counseling like she suggests, since I don't think it'll hurt your position...

Hopefully your needs and her being closed to it won't destroy your relationship or cause you to look outside (cheat, unless she knows and okays it). M


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RE: Told my spouse - 4/4/2005 4:38:55 AM   
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quote:

In the Chicago area does anyone know a counselor sensitive to FemDom?


You might want to look at the Kink Aware Professionals list.

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RE: Told my spouse - 4/4/2005 4:39:35 AM   
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Thank you, I was looking everywhere for that link and couldn't find it.

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RE: Told my spouse - 4/4/2005 5:32:54 AM   
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Asking for therapy is hardly "freaking out." There's many possible reactions here and I think this was one of the best ones you can hope for.

There might be a lot of background going on here we don't know about. Therapy might be the perfect idea for both of them if they want to start to understand this part of things.

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RE: Told my spouse - 4/4/2005 12:15:23 PM   
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Hi there. You might want to try taking a peek at this: http://www.elisesutton.homestead.com/page3.html This page is called "How To Introduce Your Wife or Girlfriend To The Female Domination Lifestyle". I hope it is of some help.

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RE: Told my spouse - 4/6/2005 12:39:36 AM   
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Ah, goddess I hear this often. Man tells wife, wife goes nutty. Bear with, the post send button went nutty too... I have bunches of input on this subject.

< Message edited by LoneGoddess -- 4/6/2005 12:40:24 AM >

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RE: Told my spouse - 4/6/2005 2:12:20 AM   
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I dont know if this will help you or even if there is someone in your area but its worth a shot. http://www.bannon.com/kap/index.htm
Good luck.

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RE: Told my spouse - 4/6/2005 9:17:28 AM   
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Congrats for being open with her. It's sad, but it's not always easy to be open about everything with those who are supposed to be nearest and dearest to us.

Don't give up. Look for a counselor who is at least open-minded, if not out and out kink friendly.

And be a little kind to yourself for a while. You did a really difficult thing, one that not everyone has the honesty to do.


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ORIGINAL: gdslvr

about my desire to be Dominated. She said "we need to seek marriage conseling". So much for that.

In the Chicago area does anyone know a counselor sensitive to FemDom? I dont want to give up that easily.



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RE: Told my spouse - 4/7/2005 12:21:50 AM   
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What I meant to post last night and didn't, because Comcast decided to go belly up on me. Sorry.

Number 1: When and if she recovers from the shock of discovering that she's never truly made you happy in your marriage bed, you have two more issues to contend with. I state this as number one because it is the number one mistake a man makes in being "honest" with his spouse. He doesn't take into consideration how it will make her feel about the past, the marriage, her own feelings about it all.

Number 2: If she doesn't divorce you, she depending on her ability to overcome what feels like extreme betrayal, regardless of whether you've gone outside the marriage to scratch that submissive itch or not, is her feeling resentment towards you about it. Ouch, and it may never get better.

Number 3: If she overcomes the resentment, you two do counseling, there are still no guarantees she'll ever want to pick up the whip and dominate you. A large percentage of the female population simply cannot dominate a man sexually. It's not in their nature, nuture or whatever.

What a man can do in the future, take notes gentlemen this is for those of you who haven't spilled the beans yet. DON'T. Don't ever. Ready now? Good.

What a submissive gentleman can do to scratch his itch to be submissive and possibly engage his own wife/lover into dominating him:
SUBMIT! JUST BE SUBMISSIVE. It's really simple. With all the load of living in today's two income households what are you doing to lighten her load and treat HER as the Goddess and Domina you wish her to be? Are you bending over backwards to make her days beautiful more memorable and make her feel loved and adored?

Are you asking her daily what you can do to make her life more pleasant? Are you running her bath, giving her foot rubs and massages, pampering her with oils? Are you jumping up to do the dishes after dinner? Are you taking the kids off her hands? Are you being a man? Real men do housework, because they know that a happy woman who has energy at the end of the day will have it to expend on the one who made her life more pleasant, hopefully that's you.

A woman who works full time, takes the kids to soccer practice, does laundry, etc. has ZIPPO desire to dominate anyone, especially since like our man here who posted did, he made it one more CHORE for her to do in her busy schedule. I can promise you if she entertains the idea of doing it, it will feel like a chore that she is humoring you in doing for you. That is just one more thing to resent you for. Don't go there.

Offer your submission in every way you can. Worship her, let her know you'll do anything she wants, but do it after you've taken a large chunk of her work load off her shoulders, when she's refreshed and rested. Happy women are far more apt to take that lead you want her to take. Submissive doesn't mean doormat, she needs to know you are still a man, but showing your surrender to her higher wisdom and feminine power may inspire her in ways you can't even imagine. You don't have to use the terms (submission, domination) in fact leave off all the BDSM lingo. It's really not needed and may hinder the process.

Then someday, you might be able to accidently leave a copy of Mistress Lorelei's "Mistress Manual" out on the coffee table and say a friend came by and forgot it ... you'll call him in the morning to come and get it... yadda yadda.

A point I want to stress here is NEVER PUSH, CAJOLE, PROD, ETC... that's NOT SUBMISSIVE BEHAVIOR, and it'll backfire in your face if you do.

Good luck boys.

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RE: Told my spouse - 4/7/2005 1:10:30 AM   
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LoneGoddess,
Your advice sounds like what I have told people for years. Some deem domination as being sexual, spanking, caning, bondage etc. I always tell guys that ask about how to get their wife to dominate them to,,,take out the trash. Wash her car, her clothes, take her out to eat, movies, clean the house and so forth.
A domination "session" for some people, can take several hours. Whats in it for her? Far to often guys want two hour tease and denial/blue balls, spanking, being cross-dressed etc and then he ejaculates and calls it a night.
Guys, heres a hint. Instead of trying to convince us to dominate you with endless talk, chatter, being pushy, whining, begging and pleading, shut up and put your mouth to good use. All the talk in the world wont convince us you are serious about being submissive as much a good regular enthusiastic oral sex will. After all, for many dominant women thats one of the main points. Finding a nice face to sit on. :)

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RE: Told my spouse - 4/7/2005 1:15:28 AM   
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Amen MsMacComb, it is all about the face sitting isn't it? LOL!!! Ah... yes...

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RE: Told my spouse - 4/7/2005 2:42:32 AM   
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Alright, so you've told your wife you want to be dominated...
That may be commendable. My feeling is that it depends on how and what you told her.
I took a quick look at your profile. My immediate reaction would be to say that you should be grateful all she said was "we need to seek marriage counseling".
How do you want to be dominated?
you say in your profile:
quote:

Let me worship the Goddess in you ! I have always been fascinated with the Goddess and believe all Women have the Goddess in them.

Exploring my sub side. Looking for chicago area experiences. Very oral and Anal. GS and Pain. Put a collar on me and use a strapon


If you approached your wife with that, you should consider yourself lucky that she only suggested "marriage counseling". Most vanilla wives would "freak".
There are wonderful ways you can begin your journey into submission without all the concentration on the extreme sexual activities. I agree with LoneGoddess. Begin treating your wife like a Goddess. That means she is not there to service you. you are there to serve her.




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RE: Told my spouse - 4/7/2005 10:13:20 AM   
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How do you want to be dominated?
you say in your profile:
quote:

Let me worship the Goddess in you ! I have always been fascinated with the Goddess and believe all Women have the Goddess in them.

Exploring my sub side. Looking for chicago area experiences. Very oral and Anal. GS and Pain. Put a collar on me and use a strapon


so, was this profile constructed for your wife's eyes only? it appears from your profile that you are looking to be dominated outside of your marriage...that could be a valid reason to seek marriage counseling right there if you want to stay married, whether she ends up serving your desires of domination or not.

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RE: Told my spouse - and guess what - 4/7/2005 7:50:34 PM   
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wow. good advice and some condescending advice. As is often typical with me, as of late, i did not clearly explain the context, and i won't bother to do it now.

The point i want to make for now is:
1. I got some wonderful advise, more than any other Alternative website.
THANK YOU Collarme.com
2. I also received some truly wonderful, insightful personal emails.
3. I was looking for “love” in all the other places, but a comment in “ask a Mistress” really made me re-consider my searching. So I, very awkwardly, broached the issue to my spouse. Which led to my post.
4. We are now working it out – surprise

Perhaps we can close this post ?? gracias and caio

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