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MagiksSlave -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 10:44:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lateralist1

I'm sorry you were abused as a child Magik's slave. I also understand the negative conotation of the word beating. It's the same for me with pain. Pain conjours up all kinds of negative images in my mind. I was actually in pain for years but because I have such a high pain threshold I never really paid much attention to it BUT it wore me down. And actually the kind of pain that we indulge in was a blessed relief. It pushed the nagging horrible physical and emotional pain into the background and gave me some relief. I had been using hot candle wax for years but it wasn't enough. I was about ready to start cutting myself when I discovered the lifestyle. Slowly but surely it is helping me to rebuild the dominant, confident person that I would have been if I hadn't been sexually abused. I hope being a slave helps you get over your abuse.


Im not a slave because I was abused.. I would like to think Id be this way even if I was never abused growing up... Wishfull thinking maybe as  all that we are is because of all that we where and all that we have been through.. change any of that and you change the person you turned out to be.. But I know what your talking about with the candle wax and cutting and such one pain to mask the other.. I did and sometimes do (well not anymore really because Master says the only one that may hurt me is him and also I dont have the right to mark up HIS property... I love that) the same thing but in the end you have to actualy face your deamons because the physical pain is only a temperery repreave.

Magik's slave

PS Daddysprop sorry for the hijack



Dnomyar -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 10:44:50 AM)

Hotch I like your thoughts on the subject.  Hotch has the right ideal. Stay away from the hairbursh. Try curing any abuse memories with theraphy.



mnottertail -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 10:50:21 AM)

I think the salient point here is:

Beatings, they're not just for breakfast anymore.

Ron



daddysprop247 -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 10:53:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I think the salient point here is:

Beatings, they're not just for breakfast anymore.

Ron


what about Beatings, the "other" white meat?



mnottertail -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 11:03:42 AM)

Beatings, it's what's for dinner!


Robert Mitchum



sleazybutterfly -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 11:06:31 AM)

I think it's like anything in bdsm, everyone has a different definition for it.  I sometimes say I need to be beat, or say that I like to be beat.  To me, it's just a term for maybe a bit harder hits with the belt, cane, etc..maybe having marks left or something like that.  The only way I define abuse (for me) is if I haven't consented to something that is being done to me (exp: in anger).

For some being slapped is abuse, for others it might be something else.  I think we all need to loosen up a bit and just let people define things for themselves how they may.




mstrjx -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 11:53:43 AM)

I agree with most has been said.  A beating is definitely construed as being 'play' on some level.  It might mean a little tougher than usual, but it is definitely consensual.  Even in punishment.

But it is fun to play with language and see how others react when the word is mentioned.

Jeff



SirDominic -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 12:05:59 PM)

beating from the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
an act of striking with repeated blows so as to injure or damage; also : the injury or damage thus inflicted.

Now there is some wiggle room for interpretation in there, but that sounds to me that the purpose of a beating is to cause harm.

It boggles my mind that so many people in this lifestyle think they can just make up their own definitions for words. That it is okay to ignore the accepted (and by "accepted" I'm referring to how the word would be defined in a standard dictionary) definition of a word in favor of your own personal interpretation.

The word beating has a meaning. How can we communicate in any sensible way, if we each decide for ourselves what each word means?!?!?!?!?!?

Namaste, Sir Dominic



mnottertail -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 12:07:21 PM)

define the word drill from the dictionary



daddysprop247 -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 12:18:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDominic

beating from the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
an act of striking with repeated blows so as to injure or damage; also : the injury or damage thus inflicted.

Now there is some wiggle room for interpretation in there, but that sounds to me that the purpose of a beating is to cause harm.

It boggles my mind that so many people in this lifestyle think they can just make up their own definitions for words. That it is okay to ignore the accepted (and by "accepted" I'm referring to how the word would be defined in a standard dictionary) definition of a word in favor of your own personal interpretation.

The word beating has a meaning. How can we communicate in any sensible way, if we each decide for ourselves what each word means?!?!?!?!?!?

Namaste, Sir Dominic


Sir Dominic, thanks for posting the actual definition of the word. tho you and i follow very different paths within the lifestyle, you know i agree with you very strongly on the issue of using correct terminology...namely, the popular habit many lifestylers have of twisting and redefining the actual meaning of words to suit their own preferences. rendering communication among diverse groups, such as found in this forum, almost impossible sometimes.

the dictionary meaning above is pretty accurate with how i have always used the word "beating", and probably why some more hardcore "SSC" folks have had issue with my use of it. when i say my Master beats me, or that i received a beating, i am not saying we played, or that we engaged in any kind of fun/mutually pleasureable activity. i am saying that he repeatedly struck me (again usually fists, foot, belt) with the intention of hurting/harming me. maybe it was a punishment, maybe it was because he just felt like it. but, whatever the reason, it is most certainly never about funtime.



Darkhaven80 -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 12:21:03 PM)

The word beating can be used for play, after all you're beating on the ass, etc. People are too sensitive anymore.



lateralist1 -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 12:35:33 PM)

I have to say this. I just can't stop myself. I've thought it over and over but didn't think it was anything to do with me. But I only have to look at your picture daddysprog247 you are one very unhappy lady.
Just get the hell out while you still have the strength.
If this gets you into trouble from your Master then I am truly sorry.



daddysprop247 -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 12:52:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lateralist1

I have to say this. I just can't stop myself. I've thought it over and over but didn't think it was anything to do with me. But I only have to look at your picture daddysprog247 you are one very unhappy lady.
Just get the hell out while you still have the strength.
If this gets you into trouble from your Master then I am truly sorry.



what the heck?? that particular photo actually captured us in a very tender, blissful moment. "unhappy" couldn't be further from describing my emotional state in that sweet moment. i understand we all have our own perceptions, ways, beliefs, etc., but have you ever considered that perhaps there are those of us who find peace and comfort in a way of life that falls outside the realm of the bdsm politically correct?



sleazybutterfly -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 12:54:16 PM)

We all define for ourselves what things mean.  What is abuse to one, isn't to another..what is a beating for one, might be tap to someone else. 

I guess because my Master would never beat me in order to just cause harm, I can't understand how someone elses could.  I am his property, yes, but his valued property and to cause me actual physical or emotional harm isn't a responsible way to treat one that is in your care.

To each their own, I am fine with that...but to me being beaten is when Master leaves marks, or does things in a more intense way.  If someone doesn't like my definition, they can feel free to define it how they want.



veronicaboundcd -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 12:56:16 PM)

My personal viewpoint on this is from my own experience with a former Domme, who definitely was a sadist. Our play was one thing, and often left me with marks for days or even weeks. Since I liked this type of play, I never considered it an actual beating. However, on several ocasions, I did things that really upset Her, and I was punished. The things I did were a bit more serious than the usual "forgeting to address Her properly", and as I was being beaten, She constantly reminded me, of how hurt She was by my actions. The same repeated blows, which I had come to love, in our normal play, turned into pain inflicted due to my own fault, and with each blow, I constantly was thinking about how badly I had failed Her, and how much I had dissapointed Her. These were beatings ....They had a purpose, and they were very effective in correcting my behaviour. My emotions were in a way different place, due to the entire concept and situation of the events. Both of us knew exactly why I was being beaten, and the entire event was etched in my mind for a long long time.
                           ...........Yours, Veronica



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 1:17:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDominic
It boggles my mind that so many people in this lifestyle think they can just make up their own definitions for words. That it is okay to ignore the accepted (and by "accepted" I'm referring to how the word would be defined in a standard dictionary) definition of a word in favor of your own personal interpretation.


Umm no language police is going to come and give me 5-10 for mispronouncing "pringles" as "pringl-eez" (which I do because it's cute for me to do so).

As long as you understand your audience, as long as you understand how they are likely to interpret what you say, and as long as you don't try and say that your definition is THE definition, you can play and rip language apart as much as your dear little heart desires.  IME the more I understand language and definitions the MORE fun I can have ripping it apart.

As well, definitions are not prescriptive, they are descriptive.  We don't define a word and then start using it, we use it and then shape a definition around it.  Definitions change all the time.  Even the OED changes.

So yeah, I'm going to use words however I see fit, and if others misunderstand me, then those are my own consequences for me to deal with and I don't blame them for it. 



thetammyjo -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 1:23:56 PM)

Usually if I say I'm going to beat Fox it is said in one of two ways, neither of which we consider abuse nor punishment.

Either I'm joking around and I instead start tickling him.

Or it means I am going to hit him using my hands only and not in an prepared SM context or limited to any of the "safe" areas of his body. That doesn't mean that what I do hit is fragile or that it will harm him because I'd consider that a stupid move on my part. Fox is not interchangeable with another slave, I know that, and I value what is mine.



mnottertail -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 1:27:38 PM)

And from my side of the sheets, if I am beating my meat, you can better believe I am not looking to cause injury to the ol' tubesteak.

The world and its factions and specializations and cliques are full of euphemism and colloquialism.

Ron



tricia -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 1:38:10 PM)

Two things -
 
First, i think that is a beautiful picture, Daddysprop247 and i've always thought so.  You look quite content and as if there is no where else in the world you would rather be.
 
A belt is my Masters "weapon" of choice.  And sometimes, yes, it does leave bruises that last for weeks.  I never thought of it as a beating. 
 
quote:

beating from the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
an act of striking with repeated blows so as to injure or damage; also : the injury or damage thus inflicted.

Now there is some wiggle room for interpretation in there, but that sounds to me that the purpose of a beating is to cause harm.

 
When I think of harm - I think more along the lines of long term.  Perhaps this is the reason why I'm not comfortable with the phrase, "my Master beats me."
 
In short, I prefer to sugarcoat it and call it something else.  :)



daddysprop247 -> RE: "Beating"...just what is it? (3/15/2007 2:35:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tricia

Two things -
 
First, i think that is a beautiful picture, Daddysprop247 and i've always thought so.  You look quite content and as if there is no where else in the world you would rather be.
 
A belt is my Masters "weapon" of choice.  And sometimes, yes, it does leave bruises that last for weeks.  I never thought of it as a beating. 
 
quote:

beating from the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
an act of striking with repeated blows so as to injure or damage; also : the injury or damage thus inflicted.

Now there is some wiggle room for interpretation in there, but that sounds to me that the purpose of a beating is to cause harm.

 
When I think of harm - I think more along the lines of long term.  Perhaps this is the reason why I'm not comfortable with the phrase, "my Master beats me."
 
In short, I prefer to sugarcoat it and call it something else.  :)


lol tricia, well at least you admit it. i think most of us sugarcoat things at times just to make them a bit more palatable, even to ourselves.

(..and thanks for the kind words about our picture, your perceptions are quite accurate *grinz*)



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