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hisannabelle -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 2:04:25 AM)
i love desserts made from applesauce! my roommate used to make applesauce muffins all the time. i'm not sure how pumpkin cake with applesauce would be, but it involves pumpkins, applesauce, and something whole wheat, so i'm all for it. (excuse me while i snag a few cookies, too. hugs thanks llyr.) i can whip up a batch of killer brownies if anyone's feeling extra in need of chocolate at the moment... :)

Llyren -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 2:10:01 AM)
Honestly, I've made it using oil, and using applesauce, and no one can tell the difference. The only thing I can't make more healthy is the frosting. It's a stick of butter, a block of cream cheese, a bit of vanilla, and lots of powdered sugar. What's your killer brownie recipe? I have one, but I'm always looking to improve. Brownies don't work well with whole wheat flour and applesauce. I tried.

hisannabelle -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 2:15:55 AM)
cream cheese frosting shouldn't be healthy. it's like really, really good chocolate. it's one of those things that turning into a health food should be some kind of crime ;) i'm not that big of a frosting person, but i really like cream cheese and whipped. (i have an awesome whipped frosting recipe if you want it.) really, there's not that much of a secret to it. i just add a lot of stuff to my brownies. i take a basic brownie recipe (whatever your favorite one is...hell, you can even use the boxed stuff - this is one of the very, very few times i believe in using the boxed stuff occasionally, with baking) and add reallllllllly good chocolate to it. like, the imported kind. (i'm very picky when it comes to chocolate, and i'm definitely a chocoholic.) you can melt it, but i usually crush or chip it up. mint is also good :) i love experimenting with mix-ins. i like applesauce stuff because i think, with muffins and cakes, it adds something yummy to the texture. i've never been a big fan of oil, myself, but i'm scared to go outside the box with some recipes - i'm better with that when it comes to savory recipes than with baking. i think i'd be too scared to make brownies with applesauce and whole wheat flour, though...i applaud you for the attempt.

Llyren -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 2:22:41 AM)
I'd like the whipped frosting recipe. I put Irish cream in my brownies. I bought a bottle of the Chocolate Mint Bailey's Irish Cream and wow. It's really good straight, so I stashed it in the back of the pantry to save it for special occasions. Applesauce is a wonderful substitute for oil, and for a certain part of the eggs in baked goods. I'm told that pureed prunes will also work, but I've not tried that yet. The Field Museum in Chicago had a chocolate exhibit a few years ago. At the end you could buy different sorts of imported, high-quality chocolates, and some really odd truffles. It was wonderful.

hisannabelle -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 2:27:55 AM)
i've never had bailey's before...i've always wanted to try. the chocolate exhibit sounds fun! :) we have a world market here, which is usually where i stock up, but they sell mostly bars of chocolate. the organic chocolate at the health food store is also very good. i'll cmail you the recipe before i go to bed...i should head off now. have to get up soonish for work, and saturdays are hell (i work at a mall, and it's spring break for k-12 here). have a good night!

chrissyslave -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 3:17:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hisannabelle people's profiles indicate a lot of things. yours, for example, indicates that you have an inferiority complex. i don't run around making veiled (or not so veiled) snide remarks to you about it, Really?...an "inferiority complex"...well that is an interesting conclusion based on your imagination when I thought the prevailing thought was the opposite view. Fact is I'm very pramatic, and don't need to feel either inferior or superior to anyones else....too much energy to be bothered with those kind of ongoing comparisions. I am who I am, nothing more and nothing less, and the only comparision of importance is of me to my own past and future, and whatever any superior One I have submitted to thinks of myself. All other views are just shadows of their own imaginations. But one thing this thread has done for me is to make me feel more glad to be myself, and not have the various concerns of anyone else. What better gift is that?.......peace to you, chrissy

AquaticSub -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 7:42:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chrissyslave quote: ORIGINAL: hisannabelle people's profiles indicate a lot of things. yours, for example, indicates that you have an inferiority complex. i don't run around making veiled (or not so veiled) snide remarks to you about it, Really?...an "inferiority complex"...well that is an interesting conclusion based on your imagination when I thought the prevailing thought was the opposite view. Fact is I'm very pramatic, and don't need to feel either inferior or superior to anyones else....too much energy to be bothered with those kind of ongoing comparisions. I am who I am, nothing more and nothing less, and the only comparision of importance is of me to my own past and future, and whatever any superior One I have submitted to thinks of myself. All other views are just shadows of their own imaginations. But one thing this thread has done for me is to make me feel more glad to be myself, and not have the various concerns of anyone else. What better gift is that?.......peace to you, chrissy Oh BS! cracks up You've spent how much time here making snide remarks about people who weigh more then you, about how we can't possibly be healthy and how we sit on the couch on all day. Truth is I'm very healthy and I engage in a sport that requires far more exertion then tennis. But then again, with that shallow attitude, I'm sure you'll get just the man you deserve.

KatyLied -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 7:53:02 AM)
Chrissyslave: quote: Meanwhile in the vanilla-world I'll take the votes on sites such as "Hot or Not" and go from there (for myself always 8.0 and higher) This is too funny. It's not good to derive all of your self-esteem from how a bunch of cyber-wanks rate you on-line.

AquaticSub -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 7:55:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied Chrissyslave: quote: Meanwhile in the vanilla-world I'll take the votes on sites such as "Hot or Not" and go from there (for myself always 8.0 and higher) This is too funny. It's not good to derive all of your self-esteem from how a bunch of cyber-wanks rate you on-line. Not to mention, isn't a very mature attitude. The last time I heard this stuff expressed sincerely, I was in high school! Which is funny because in the CIAW thread, they were saying I couldn't know what I was talking about because I was just 22.

DisirUrdsFylgja -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 8:25:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FukinTroll WTF is vanilla? Vanilla vagina utopia Will cause the male myeopia Best stick to harder flavors Leave vanilla to neighbors

savannasub -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 9:33:53 AM)
A good buddy from here, married, tried many times to "give it up," a couple of times for periods lasting a couple of years. But he said it always felt as if part of him had either been anaesthetized or amputated. So he still taps into it thru sites like this and is truthful. He finds it rather easily. Usually the kink partners will be happy to compromise with a married man, but the vanilla won't or can't.

chrissyslave -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 9:37:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied Chrissyslave: quote: Meanwhile in the vanilla-world I'll take the votes on sites such as "Hot or Not" and go from there (for myself always 8.0 and higher) This is too funny. It's not good to derive all of your self-esteem from how a bunch of cyber-wanks rate you on-line. Nahhh...but if that is one way, of many possible types of feedback that lets me know how other truly interested people might see myself, so makes it easier to ignore other's remarks. And besides that the guys/gals there also get to make some contact if really interested, and I get to click back (double-match) or ignore them. But the fact is I made a reasonable suggestion to a male sub and the insecure hijacked the thread to being about themselves.....please just get over it. Be fat and be happy if that is what works for you! chrissy

AquaticSub -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 9:51:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chrissyslave Nahhh...but if that is one way, of many possible types of feedback that lets me know how other truly interested people might see myself, so makes it easier to ignore other's remarks. And besides that the guys/gals there also get to make some contact if really interested, and I get to click back (double-match) or ignore them. But the fact is I made a reasonable suggestion to a male sub and the insecure hijacked the thread to being about themselves.....please just get over it. Be fat and be happy if that is what works for you! chrissy No, your suggestion wasn't reasonable. Reasonable would have been "You don't look all that hot in your pic, why don't you change it." You were insulting and continue to be. You seem to suffer from the high school delusion of "I'm hot in a sterotypical way, so all the boyz will want me". Which is fine, if you want boys. I prefer men.

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 10:12:41 AM)
Chrissy you're just digging yourself into a deeper hole- the fact that you pretty much pasted a bulls-eye onto yourself doesn't help either. The fact that you keep responding to all of these posts to show just how much you AREN'T affected by them usually becomes a case of "doth protest too much." You crossed that line a few pages ago. No one is suggesting there aren't standards of hotness in the world, and that the more a person goes towards a generally accepted hotness standard, the more suitors they will have (although I hear that can also be a double edged sword). But the reality is that we all have hot and not hot things about us, and we all have very different standards of hotness when it comes down to picking A specific person to bring into our intimate lives. You do have a history of bringing up specific points in your post to show just how "important" you are- like your past degrees, your past accomplishments. You have often given an attitude of "Yes I AM that hot" almost as if you're trying to convince yourself. Now, you can read all these posts and decide we're all just meanies who want to go after someone, you can read these posts and decide it's just an overreaction, you can read these posts, look inside yourself and decide we have no freaking clue what we're talking about, or you can read these posts and decide that maybe the attitude you are presenting isn't what you really mean to present at all. The choice is really yours, but keep protesting and you'll end up proving yourself wrong without any help from anyone else.

firemuse -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 10:16:52 AM)
I would imagine it's an individual decision for each individual but myself - I state right in my profile that I'm not interested in people who are attached. I just do not date attached people (or play with them). I do not want to be help anyone hurt another person. Even if the person says their wife is accepting - how do I know this is true without asking her. Too much drama when there are available people out there to date. I may offend some with this but it's JUST my personal view - I just don't think kinky people should date vanilla people UNLESS they are OK with giving up their kink. Or, unless it's an understood open-relationship from the get-go. GRANTED I've never been in the position of discovering you're kinky after you get married but I just don't get staying, if you're kinky enough to need to satisfy that kink elsewhere. I just think you're not being honest to anyone and it's kinder to all (including self, SO and children) to leave. I may be a bit biased though - my best friend (very vanilla) recently started seeing a guy who is dominant. Not only did he misrepresent his wants/needs to her when they started seeing each other, but he also keeps trying to change her - he even tried to talk me into getting her to do kinky things with him the first time we spoke. To me this is disrespect since he met her on a vanilla dating site and he keeps trying to get her to do things that she's not comfortable with. The same way I would expect us kinky people to be not diss'ed cuz of our own personal tastes, so should vanilla people be allowed to be who they are and not chastised for not being kinky, because I don't think they can help what they are or aren't into any more than we can. fire Alienum est omne quicquid optando evenit

chrissyslave -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 10:21:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub No, your suggestion wasn't reasonable. Reasonable would have been "You don't look all that hot in your pic, why don't you change it." You were insulting and continue to be. You seem to suffer from the high school delusion of "I'm hot in a sterotypical way, so all the boyz will want me". Which is fine, if you want boys. I prefer men. Fact is it was never about me, and yet you keep trying to make it so...I don't give a flip what you think of my looks...it works just fine for me in any type of meeting site, and I do what it takes to maintain my better appearance (compared to what I looked like when a few pounds heavier) and better health. I have more than enough takers so not worried about that, here or out there. But the point remains that common sense would be that if you are heavier, man or woman, at least try to present yourself in your best light, such as a sports shirt for a guy or maybe a corset or bit of fashionable wear for a woman. Perhaps the way my orginal comment didn't come across very well worded but the main point was right on. Frankly I haven't looked at yours or anyone's profiles who posted in this thread, but there is apparently enough interest for both the thick and thin bodied ones in general so MOST everyone can find a happy match. Some state their preferences up front like I do, and my own concerns with good health. Some might be wise to even loose some weight if that would help them in a variety of ways. If not then look at all the ways to change, even if it just means using a better photo. And the male sub, being the only one my original response was directed ast can take my advice or not. Otherwise give it more time and hope for the best.

hisannabelle -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 10:32:50 AM)
chrissy, i find it interesting that you never responded to the rest of my post. my point was, not all of us need to lose weight for our health. some of us see past what people look like, and some of us are even gasp healthy and happy where we are. you also seem to have a difficult time accepting the fact that some of us are overweight for bigger reasons than sitting on the couch eating pizza, that sometimes it's not a matter of eating differently and exercising more, and that most of us are far more active than you think. or that, hey, some people just measure their worth in things other than their appearance.

kyraofMists -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 10:33:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chrissyslave Frankly I haven't looked at yours or anyone's profiles who posted in this thread At least get your facts straight if you are going to try and defend yourself. In a post made by you to hisannabelle in the wee hours of the morning... quote: Just let me observe what your profile indicates: 180 lbs at 5'3" and suffer from a host of physical and mental problems, and no photos. No further comment is required. You are being deliberately insulting to people and I did not find your original comment about the OP's picture to be reasonable at all. Knight's kyra

AquaticSub -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 10:38:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chrissyslave quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub No, your suggestion wasn't reasonable. Reasonable would have been "You don't look all that hot in your pic, why don't you change it." You were insulting and continue to be. You seem to suffer from the high school delusion of "I'm hot in a sterotypical way, so all the boyz will want me". Which is fine, if you want boys. I prefer men. Fact is it was never about me, and yet you keep trying to make it so...I don't give a flip what you think of my looks...it works just fine for me in any type of meeting site, and I do what it takes to maintain my better appearance (compared to what I looked like when a few pounds heavier) and better health. I have more than enough takers so not worried about that, here or out there. But the point remains that common sense would be that if you are heavier, man or woman, at least try to present yourself in your best light, such as a sports shirt for a guy or maybe a corset or bit of fashionable wear for a woman. Perhaps the way my orginal comment didn't come across very well worded but the main point was right on. Frankly I haven't looked at yours or anyone's profiles who posted in this thread, but there is apparently enough interest for both the thick and thin bodied ones in general so MOST everyone can find a happy match. Some state their preferences up front like I do, and my own concerns with good health. Some might be wise to even loose some weight if that would help them in a variety of ways. If not then look at all the ways to change, even if it just means using a better photo. And the male sub, being the only one my original response was directed ast can take my advice or not. Otherwise give it more time and hope for the best. You made it about you. It didn't have to be - you were the one posting about how much you respect your body, how much you want to lose weight, how our doms would prefer thinner women (based on a completely shallow and worthless "hawt or not" contests). Your first comment was rude and you continued to be snide, earning yourself probably no lack of disrespect and uninterest. Every olive branch seemingly extended for peace was followed by backhanded comments about coach potatoes.

Llyren -> RE: do married guys have much luck here? (3/17/2007 10:45:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kyraofMists quote: ORIGINAL: chrissyslave Frankly I haven't looked at yours or anyone's profiles who posted in this thread At least get your facts straight if you are going to try and defend yourself. In a post made by you to hisannabelle in the wee hours of the morning... quote: Just let me observe what your profile indicates: 180 lbs at 5'3" and suffer from a host of physical and mental problems, and no photos. No further comment is required. Chrissy, that is an outright lie. I checked who had viewed me, and according to that you viewed my profile at 10:48pm on 03/16/2007. Just in case you were wondering, getting a high score on 'Hot or Not' doesn't mean you can alter reality. And why would this "One Superior" of whom you boast want someone with a feeble grasp of the truth? I have never met someone superior to me. I've met those who had qualities that made them the sort to which I could potentially submit, but I have never met someone I knew was my superior. If you really care nothing about this, then let it drop and walk away. The more your respond, the more you prove the points being made against you. [sm=preen.gif] OT: This isn't about what the poor fellow looks like. It's about his duplicitous nature. Why do you keep trying to make it about his photograph? Would it suddenly be okay for him to deceive his wife because he was fit? Are there different moral standards depending upon weight? Where do football players fit into it, who often have very high BMI's, but are in very good physcial shape? Is there a moral to this, or do we just attempt to salve flagging morale with morels? None for me, thanks. I'm allergic.

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