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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

So, you're saying the Local office of the FBI, AND McKay's superiors in Washington City were both in on McKay's supposed suppression of the investigation?

Because, as you well know, the FBI is the one doing the legwork, and he reported pretty much daily to the guys in the FBI HQ Elections Crime office.

They're in on it, too?

It's a VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY, you're saying? McKay being a Republican...

And another thing, since Tony Snow is on record that Bush NEVER WAS CONSULTED ABOUT THE REMOVALS, *exactly* how were they removed BY THE PRESIDENT?

And another thing, since Tony Snow is on record that Bush NEVER WAS CONSULTED ABOUT THE REMOVALS, *exactly* how were they removed BY THE PRESIDENT?

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

Hahahahahah....Bush acts like a King?  God...that is hysterical.  At least he doesn't act like a King on crack...you know...like Clinton.  Lemme see 1) sexually harassing Paula Jones; 2) the affair with Jennifer Flowers; 3) using the Arkansas State Police to proposition girls and bring them back to him; 4) groping Kathleen Wiley against her will while she was there to talk about her despondent husband who (i think) committed suicide that same day; 5) the alleged rape of Juanita Broderick--a married, Van Buren (pop. 1,500) elementary school teacher; 6) spooging on Monica Lewinsky's dress and then trying to compel perjury, witness tampering and tampering with evidence; 7) giving cold water reactors to No. Korea; 8) failing to take custody of Osama Bin Laden when offered by the Sudan in '96; 9) failing to act on terrific intel and assinating Osama in '98; 10) further encouraging the wall of separation with respect to information sharing between the CIA and the FBI, especially with Jamie Garrelik (sp?); 11) allowing Chinese businessmen to sleep in Lincoln's bedroom in exchange for soft campaign money, 12) doing dozens of "white house coffees" for soft campaign money;  authorizing a U.S. peace keeping force to do a "snatch and grab" of Somali war lords which led to the infamous Black Hawk Down incident, and 13) having the ignominious honor of being the ONLY President in U.S. history to be suspended from the practice of law in his home state for 5 years.  I dunno...Bush doesn't look like such a bad guy in comparison.

What has Bush done, exactly?  We invaded Afghanistan to try to destroy the Taliban after the occurrence of the worst single attack on U.S. soil in our nation's history.  That seemed reasonable.  We invaded Iraq after repeated violations of U.N. resolutions, the violation of any one of which was a justification for intervention (especially firing at U.S. planes...a big No No). That seemed reasonable.  Part of his justification was the presence of WMDs which the entire world thought he possessed and did (read "War on America" by Laurie Mylroi, expert on Iraq to Slick Willy during his administration).  But assuming Sadaam didn't have WMDs, the Brits thought he did, both Clintons thought he did, France thought he did, John Kerry thought he did, John McCain thought he did, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Anyway....hey, if anyone is up for it, run a search on how many negative books have been written by former Nixon staffers about their boss vs. how many have been written about Bush by his former staffers vs. how many have been written about Clinton by HIS former staffers.  Would anyone like to venture a guess who has, so far, had the highest number of negative books written about him by his own, hand picked, former staff members????     [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m21.gif[/image]

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ORIGINAL: Transdromeda

He is THE commander in cheif.  that is his number one duty

From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access
[wais.access.gpo.gov]
[Laws in effect as of January 20, 2004]
[Document not affected by Public Laws enacted between
  January 20, 2004 and December 23, 2004]
[CITE: 10USC311]

 
TITLE 10--ARMED FORCES
 
Subtitle A--General Military Law
 
PART I--ORGANIZATION AND GENERAL MILITARY POWERS
 
CHAPTER 13--THE MILITIA
 
Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes

    (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
    (b) The classes of the militia are--
        (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
        (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Sec. 332. Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority
       
    Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State or Territory by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

are subject to the President being your Commander in Chief when he declares you to be ...

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

sinergy,

If your profile is accurate, you are 44 ... that makes you part of the Federal Militia until your 45 birthday.

However, depending on the laws of your state (CA?) some state-defined militias give an age of up to 69 - as long as they are abled-bodied.  You might want to check CA law on the subject.

State militias are subject to activitation by the Feds, and if you are part of your state militia, then Bush is STILL your commander-in-chief, no matter what your age, if you are part of a state militia that defines you as such.

FirmKY

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

are subject to the President being your Commander in Chief when he declares you to be ...

Has he?

No.

While hypotheticals are interesting, they are not relevant to the present discussion.

Sinergy

Congress was empowered under the Constitution [Article 1.8.15] to call "forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions." Also, under the Constitution [Article 1.8.16] the Congress shall have the power "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them a may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress."

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Everyone Loves GW Bush!

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Congress was empowered under the Constitution [Article 1.8.15] to call "forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions."

TITLE 10--ARMED FORCES
Subtitle A--General Military Law
PART I--ORGANIZATION AND GENERAL MILITARY POWERS
CHAPTER 13--THE MILITIA
Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes

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The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Let me walk you slowly throught the logic:

1.  You are a member of the unorganized militia.

2.  The unorganized militia is a branch of the US Armed forces:

TITLE 10--ARMED FORCES
Subtitle A--General Military Law
PART I--ORGANIZATION AND GENERAL MILITARY POWERS
CHAPTER 13--THE MILITIA
Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes

3.  The President is the Commander-in-Chief of all US Armed forces.

4.  That makes him your Commander-in-Chief.

Clear now?

FirmKY

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

Does this mean we're all entitled to veterans benefits? [:)]

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

1.  Do you meet the qualifications for one of the militias as defined by 10USC311?

FirmKY

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ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

he's not MY CnC