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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 3/18/2007 7:24:05 AM   
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Wow LadyEllen! Very impressive breakdown! LOL!
Now i need another cup of coffee..that made my brain hurt!!

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 3/18/2007 7:26:18 AM   
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Wow, a lot of interesting and varied replies!

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 3/18/2007 7:32:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

There are nearly 407,000 registered profiles. Ignoring the trans profiles and assuming a 51% female and 49% male ratio as in the wider population, this should mean that there are
207,570 female profiles
199,430 male profiles

So, from the off it would appear that there are more female profiles than male in a ratio of 1 male to 1.04 female.

But, if we were to assume that 10% of the male profiles were linked by way of the same originator, to a female profile, this would remove 19,943 profiles from the female side of the equation, giving 187,627 remaining female profiles.

The relative numbers then become
187,627 female profiles
199,430 male profiles

And males now outnumber females by 11,803, perhaps explaining why precisely 6% of the male population rarely get any.

This 6% is a recurring theme; for each 1000 new male profiles, 60 of the males to whom they belong will never get any and will resort at some point to initiating a female profile with the aim of acquiring thereby, "inspiration" of some sort.

The number of males pretending to be females therefore, is expressed by the equation m x 1.1 + n x 0.06, where m is the existing number of male profiles and n is the number of new male profiles added in any given time period.

In this way, we see that the number of such fake profiles will rise over time, both in actual numbers and by proportion to the entire membership and in relation to the number of genuine female profiles. This means that sometime around 2012, every female profile on CM will in fact be a male pretending to be a female, and also explains why it is becoming ever more difficult for males here to get any, over time.

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Ack! looks like math to me.. much to early for that!

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 3/18/2007 7:38:28 AM   
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my guestimate would have been 20 males for every female here.

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 3/18/2007 7:42:03 AM   
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If you have to pretend to be anything you aren't in this world then I feel sorry for you.
Someone got there first. I don't give a shit anymore what anyone thinks of me.
What I think about me is the only important thing.
I would love someone to care about me just the way I am though.
The internet for all it's downfalls has to be the best way to meet someone that you could have the right kind of relationship with.
I've talked to people that I would never have talked to in any other way. And met people I would never have come into contact with.
And although every time I am left dissapointed that they are not the 'one' I have learned something from the encounter.
I have 'grown' so much. My self awareness has improved. And hopefully I have had the same effect on others.

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 3/18/2007 8:37:45 AM   
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i've always wanted to do a study, but i don't have that kind of free time...
Take a profile pretty much identical to mine, but actively looking for a Female Dominant
An almost identical profile, but a male Dominant looking for female submissives... from prison
Almost identical, but a female submissive who is morbidly obese and has several UMs, looking for a male Dominant
Almost identical, but a female submissive with an "average-looking" picture who has full-blown AIDS, looking for a male Dominant

and see just how the number of contacts work out.

i did the female identity thing a long time ago, in an online forum far away, just to fill the time (no pictures, only thing i needed to lie about was my bits)... it was really interesting to be WANTED for my kinks. i can actually see how it could become addictive if you don't have a real-time relationship.

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 8:34:38 AM   
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I can understand why receiving a "demand" to go on cam would, under certain situations, feel insulting.

However, I would think most people would react positively to a polite request, posed at the right time in the unfolding relationship, along the lines of: "You know, so much important information gets lost when we rely on just email - things that are said by the eyes, smiles, hands ... can we pick a time to chat by web cam? It would seem so much more real and intimate?"

Who's going to turn that down? And it gives everyone an opportunity to get out of their pajamas and fix themselves up a little.

I'm not totally a green bean with this D/s and BDSM, but you can count my sessions on your two hands. Enough to sense that so often things get seen in black and white, whereas I see most people are operating in the gray areas - a thread I saw here had forum users going off (rather viciously) on a Domme who was sharing an experience with a married sub where the wife didn't know about his sexual proclivities. It was brutal. Based on a smidgeon of information CM users piled on about how unfaithful, it's cheating, ... mostly sounding like saying "Have you no shame?"

Without belaboring it, I can think of scores of reasons why a decent responsible spouse would eventually turn to getting some basic human needs met outside the marriage without wrecking havoc on the marriage and everyone impacted by it.

So it is, I have observed, for many forum users here, where everything can be B & W ... no grays allowed in some people's worlds. Won't agree to no stinking web cam; you're a slutty pro domme if your married sub hides it from his wife; Dommes are in full control and repeatedly pronounce "NO SEX" in profiles, yet sex is a pervasive (and erotic) theme integral to BDSM. IMHO, speaking as a man, I can't fathom what Dommes think as they post on a web site that injects everywhere ads for brutal BDSM (a la "Training of O") where freakish men with clipboards make a living mostly by tying up women in various positions and fucking them. No sex in BDSM?

Life is complicated. We make tradeoffs all the time.

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 8:48:28 AM   
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When I play in any online RPG,'s, I ALWAYS play as a woman or woman character.  I found it has allowed me to explore expressing myself differently, resulting in a far-more open, tolerant and expressive me than I was before.  Eventually, I have revealed my secret to those close to me in game, and have built some strong friendships and relationships there. 

I have never posed here, but am able to present myself in an honest and open fashion that would likely never have been possible were it not for my gender-bending experiences online. 

yours


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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 9:12:56 AM   
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...the cyber world is as real as tv-land.

statistically the woman of your dreams is here?   ahahaha.    Pretty, not ugly, not over weight,  not a druggie/drunk, available, and most of all-  no baggage?

If a man wants a woman-  BE a honorable man real time, right on the same street you live on.  Be the example. Live the ideal of what you as a man seek to be.

I guarantee you- that hardworking, decent, honorable men are scoped out by females.  Even the gal friends of females.  They like to play matchmaker.

So then there are guys that are nothing to look at- the expect a young slim, sexy lady to be interested in him.  That same lady can go for looks, a good breadwinner, or  even a guy with upstanding integrity.

While some guys are a good catch- many just want a slut- maid and cook.  with no quid pro quo.   

A person male or female- that has something going for them, will be noticed.    No one is going to give up their life and move across country- and manage to carry their weight. 

For anyone over 30-  your dream girl is not just a click a way.   If isnt like ordering a pizza- ya got to earn it.

Be a pillar in your community- in so doing- it will get you noticed- and sooner or later- you will find that special lady.

love is a 2 way street and it can not be forced or co-erced.    if it is- then it is not love- it is an arrangement.

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 10:09:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pancho2009

I can understand why receiving a "demand" to go on cam would, under certain situations, feel insulting.

However, I would think most people would react positively to a polite request, posed at the right time in the unfolding relationship, along the lines of: "You know, so much important information gets lost when we rely on just email - things that are said by the eyes, smiles, hands ... can we pick a time to chat by web cam? It would seem so much more real and intimate?"

Who's going to turn that down? And it gives everyone an opportunity to get out of their pajamas and fix themselves up a little.

I'm not totally a green bean with this D/s and BDSM, but you can count my sessions on your two hands. Enough to sense that so often things get seen in black and white, whereas I see most people are operating in the gray areas - a thread I saw here had forum users going off (rather viciously) on a Domme who was sharing an experience with a married sub where the wife didn't know about his sexual proclivities. It was brutal. Based on a smidgeon of information CM users piled on about how unfaithful, it's cheating, ... mostly sounding like saying "Have you no shame?"

Without belaboring it, I can think of scores of reasons why a decent responsible spouse would eventually turn to getting some basic human needs met outside the marriage without wrecking havoc on the marriage and everyone impacted by it.

So it is, I have observed, for many forum users here, where everything can be B & W ... no grays allowed in some people's worlds. Won't agree to no stinking web cam; you're a slutty pro domme if your married sub hides it from his wife; Dommes are in full control and repeatedly pronounce "NO SEX" in profiles, yet sex is a pervasive (and erotic) theme integral to BDSM. IMHO, speaking as a man, I can't fathom what Dommes think as they post on a web site that injects everywhere ads for brutal BDSM (a la "Training of O") where freakish men with clipboards make a living mostly by tying up women in various positions and fucking them. No sex in BDSM?

Life is complicated. We make tradeoffs all the time.


LOLOL. This is the internet.

Polite anything seems to be nonexistent. It seems to me most on the net view net interaction more as a competition than anything.

Uncle Nasty

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 12:01:39 PM   
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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 12:04:07 PM   
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two yr old thread.....

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 12:05:49 PM   
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why the hell do first posters need to be such gawd dam ......dumb crayons


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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 12:12:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pancho2009

I can understand why receiving a "demand" to go on cam would, under certain situations, feel insulting.

However, I would think most people would react positively to a polite request, posed at the right time in the unfolding relationship, along the lines of: "You know, so much important information gets lost when we rely on just email - things that are said by the eyes, smiles, hands ... can we pick a time to chat by web cam? It would seem so much more real and intimate?"

Who's going to turn that down? And it gives everyone an opportunity to get out of their pajamas and fix themselves up a little.


OoOo! I'll answer this... ME!

Two reasons:
1. That's one of the corniest excuses ever. Seriously. If it's that important, lets go out to dinner or something... it's essentially the same.
2. I don't own one. Even if I did, #1 would pretty much still clinch it.

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 12:31:45 PM   
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I have any number of times.
It's extremely rude, it's disgusting and it's sick! And, it's having your time wasted by these sick fucks for their own sick twisted pleasure.
You can repay money but you can't repay time.
This is a good and legitimate site, it's too bad Admin. can't do something to keep them and the Nigerian scammers and other miscreants out of here. 
They must think, "ah, a B&D site, surely they'll put up with my sickness!"
The best thing to do is get phone numbers as quickly as possable to verify that someone *is* who they say they are!
I noticed that there is one thing that they all do which gives them away.

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 12:35:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250
I noticed that there is one thing that they all do which gives them away.

Which is?

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 12:38:35 PM   
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FullCircle, obviously I don't want to put it out "in public."

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 12:40:48 PM   
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oh sure Popeye...just tease us 

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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 12:58:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fergus

I've seen a few folks complain here that they run into men pretending to be women on this site.  I probably have also, but not in real time (thankfully).

Any one have any estimates and/or anecdotal evidence as to HOW MANY men are pretending to be women on this site?

fergus

What about the women pretending to be men?



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RE: How many men disguised as women? - 4/19/2009 12:59:29 PM   
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The old 'don't give it away' ploy.
That always shows who the fakes are.
Popeye is obviously a very attractive woman.
Care to webcam and show us your spinach?
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