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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/18/2007 6:20:42 PM

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I hope you don't feel stupid, Carol. I know I puzzled over it for quite a while. At least you were brave enough to ask.

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/18/2007 6:29:43 PM

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check out Curves, its fast, efficiant, ant to the point, i love it!

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/18/2007 6:51:32 PM

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Excellent thread, I hope for it to have a long life .

My quick answer is "low-carb". It's more Atkins than anything else, but I've learned a huge amount from the Eades and their Protein Power books, and Dr Richard Bernstein's Diabetes Diet, and more. When I have more time, I'm going to post some basics, and show why fat does not make you fat, at least not in the absence of a lot of carbohydrates.

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/18/2007 7:04:29 PM

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low carb is fine, no carb and high fat is very very very bad.

The problem with the atikins diet is that it does not restrict what kind of protein you ingest... also, the results, for whatever reason, tend to be far more dramatic for men than for women.

The sonoma diet has some interesting information about the Atkins diet.

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/18/2007 7:15:40 PM

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Its Really all about being healthy, at least TRYING to eat right.....(dont restrict your self TOO Much) and think about muscle mass......muscle DOES weigh more than fat does..........and its about how your clothes fit and how you look and FEEL about your self............Even "skinny" people arent always happy about thier self............its both mental and physical....................In the last year I lost 30lbs.......try eating better........(not Great).............drinking more water......(less beer....but didnt give it up, just drink low carb now)..........exersizing more.................it has helped me both Mentally and phisically........and i feel better than i did 5-7 years ago!! :)

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/18/2007 7:36:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: ta2dqt
muscle DOES weigh more than fat does..........and its about how your clothes fit and how you look and FEEL about your self............

drinking more water......(less beer....but didnt give it up, just drink low carb now)..........exersizing more.................it has helped me both Mentally and phisically........and i feel better than i did 5-7 years ago!! :)

I avoid scales at all costs for just that reason. I've always been strong as an Ox, needless to say my weight surprises some when given in numbers. God I remember weighing in at 170 pounds and wore a size 8! ....

I hear you about the beer, I miss my Guiness's.... I really do.
They arent forbidden, but I've turned into quite a light weight where Alcohol is conserned. 2 of my deep dark thick loaded with grain liquid beverages and I'm toast!!!

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/18/2007 7:38:17 PM

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I've been doing a boot camp fitness program for the past two weeks, with two weeks to go. I had completely lost all motivation to exercise, after being a gym regular for the majority of my adult life.

if you can get your butt out the door and get there, it's 1/2 the battle. for me, it's really been a godsend, I've regained my motivation, seen incredible results (no weightloss yet, but definitely losing inches) and gotten great nutrition advice. it's worth it.

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/18/2007 7:40:14 PM

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I agree completely, lighthearted! Once I'm at the gym I love it. It's just getting myself dressed and out the door when I'd rather remain curled up with my computer.

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/18/2007 9:31:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: Llyren

I agree completely, lighthearted! Once I'm at the gym I love it. It's just getting myself dressed and out the door when I'd rather remain curled up with my computer.

that's my problem as well! the gym is not that far of a walk (maybe 10 minutes), but getting out the door is my biggest problem.

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/18/2007 9:53:25 PM

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I've totally wrecked my metoblism by not eating, I'm trying to eat right

I'm not kidding you when I say this: I won't stop eating because I've seen many a metabolism wrecked around me by people who stop eating, eternal diet, and can't lose weight still.
I have accidentally lost a few pounds lately, and my hope and goal is to not gain weight. I'm kind of enemies with the gym, so until I have a regular routine of going out dancing or a live in lover (whichever comes first, and all the better if at the same time

), I'm not goint to lose more than 5-10lbs. M

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/18/2007 11:04:44 PM

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I work for a gym,  I'm the one who weighs and takes measurement's figure's out your body mass index .then we talk about short and long term goals(realistic) and the overall picture .what it add's up too is portion control ,eating every 3 hours to keep the blood sugar in check and not skipping meals or snacks. of course healthy close to the most natural source is best (really it's moderation ).Also I have client's keep a food diary to figure out when they eat and what they eat and what caused the binge or sudden need  that's how I find out if it's emotional vrs hunger My first suggestion is when they feel hunger first hydrate then feed chance's are your thirsty then after a glass of water if still hungry then eat a portioned meal.If you do end up consuming something less than ideal on your plan then within 2 hrs do some form of activity to counter act .you'll have less guilt and less beating yourself up and the raise in good brain chemicals will help with the sugar crash and your next meal make a better choice .I also find saying no more food after 7 pm works with my night snackers and let the belly growl it's breaking down leptin and gastrin and using the fat as a snack exactly what it needs to do .Never skip breakfast your body needs the fuel to run, think of your body as a expensive sports car and only give it the best fuel possible .that's my mindfuc learned it from my mister see we pay attention lol.

Moving getting your heart rate up and breaking a sweat for 30 mins  3 to 5 x's a week is recommended by the Amercian Heart Association .weight bearing exercise is benefical to women to combat bone loss later and a tight firm body helps with organ placement and posture along with future back health    .Exercise can improve clinical depression it releases endorphins along with dopamine into your system and when you look good you feel good it improves sexual stamina and endurance (Wink)who doesn't want that ?
Also variety shake up your routine change things your body will try as hard as possible to keep the fat for storage. so it's about confusing it ,muscle has memory so up the weights increase the reps or even do a circuit type workout involving weighs and cardio .It's about reaching full muscular fatigue that's how lactic acid is released and we get those lovely DOMS yes it's a fitness term (delayed onset muscle soreness) and it's beautiful . If you can sit on the toliet after one of my workouts then i'm not doing my job lol.

I personally tell my client's to stay off The flash foods like fat free ,low carb ,sugar free it's a huge gimmick to take those substance's out. they replace with chemicals and over load the salt(which can cause edema and raise the bp up) and if you read it clearly it says not a reduced calorie food on every package .It means it's useless to your body and it's filler it add's up to empty calories eat real food just read what the portions are .Fake sugars that are in most if not all sugar free product's can cause digestive issue's and embarassing noises with the exception too splenda (though someone could be sensitive )

Most of my client's say they hate water so I say cut it with whole juice minus high frutose corn syrup if your juice has that then it might as well be pop.Become a label reader and chance's are if you can't pronounce what's in your food then don't eat it .another tidbit is enriched is a flash word for we took carmel color and painted it after it's been bleached so go with multi grain to 100% whole grain over anything else .

I'm not bashing atkins or southbeach but it's not for everyone people who are insulin resistant or suffer from metabolism issue's (most chronic dieters have the slowest metabolism )benefit from this plan. I usually just get my client's eating and fueling thier bodies and then we introduce exercise and weightloss soon follows never be in a hurry a slower loss is much healthier than a fast fad loss and no magic pill has been invented so hoodia and other fat burners are a diet for your wallet be careful taking any supplement .   great topic good luck to anyone in this process .                            ~~~~Doll

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/19/2007 2:45:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: puella

low carb is fine, no carb and high fat is very very very bad.

The problem with the atikins diet is that it does not restrict what kind of protein you ingest... also, the results, for whatever reason, tend to be far more dramatic for men than for women.

The sonoma diet has some interesting information about the Atkins diet.

Well, Atkins never advocated "no carb", although there is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate, while both fat and proteins are essential, or we die. And I eat far, far more vegetables on Atkins than I ever have in my life, on a daily basis. I no longer eat partially hydrogenated, trans fat, highly processed junk. I eat grass fed beef, roasted chicken, smoked salmon, eggs, and at least one salad a day, along with broccoli, spinach, green beans, and cabbage.

Fat does not make you fat in the absence of a lot of carbs. Instead, it's burned as energy.

In December, my cholesterol was out of range in every category; after just 3 months of dietary change, every single marker is normal, except LDL, and it is going in the right direction.

Total cholestrol - 100-199
12/2006 - 245
03/2007 - 200

Triglycerides - 0-149

12/2006 - 352
03-2007 - 96

HDL - 40 or higher

12/2006 - 29
03/2007 - 40

LDL - 99 or lower

12/2006 - 146
03/2007 - 141

VLDL Cholestrol - 5-40

12/2006 - test not done
03/2007 - 19

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/19/2007 4:12:50 AM

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But really!!!!! 500 crunches???

Q.....

It's nowhere near as tough as it sounds. You could bust out ten sets of fifty in twenty-twenty five minutes with nominal rest. The when you get used to it, I'd add a few plates to each side of the ''ab buster''. Put your cowboy hat on......and it would be just like working on your ranch ; }

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/19/2007 9:46:48 AM

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Here are two places that are free where you can keep track of your calories, fitness and enter custom foods to keep track of. I'm quite partial to the first one. Has recipes and meal planning. It only has one section for snacks, but I just put both my morning and mid afternood snack in the same place. I also think 6 small meals is the ideal for fat burning and agree that diet pills should be avoided.

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/19/2007 10:30:19 AM

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oh, if only i could work out in the water! after a major injury, i used the water to regain strength, muscle mass & movement...it worked so very well...at this time, i'm restricted from moving the foot, so have to wear an immobilizer or it won't heal...our pool is outdoor & won't open til May & i'm not allowed to drive yet...but as soon as that restriction is lifted, i'm finding a pool where i can work out....

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/19/2007 10:30:44 AM

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Between doll and puella, you've just about got it covered. Dr. Atkins set up his diet as a way to get morbidly obese people in need of surgery down to a more healthy weight for surgery within 30 days. The risks of surgery at their before weight outweighed the risks of temporarily reducing weight through forcing the body to burn stored fat.

All "diets" do is make you spend money for "their" secrets. Find what works for you to...

A) Increase and record your activity on consistent basis. Gyms or buddy workouts are great for this.

Consult your doctor for reasonable advice on what activity/work out is appropriate for your age and health.

As a side note: Swimming and other in-water based activities, while they do burn calories through the water's resistance and (swimming in particular, if you're a good swimmer) provide good cardiovascular workout, has one poor side effect. Water conducts heat more easily than air. Therefore, swimmers naturally build up a layer of fat under their skin/over their muscles as insulation, especially in women. Look at a serious female high school or university swimmer's bodies, verses a swimsuit model's body. The swimmer will not be as lean, but quite possibly, healthier. ;-)

B) Control what you eat.

* Reasonably reduce calories according to your doctor's or dietician's recommendations.
* Replace simple carbs (generally "white food") with complex carbs.
* DO eat breakfast and include a (lean preferably) protein whenever possible. This confirms to your hindbrain that it's safe to have a high metabolism that day.
* Control your main day-meal portions. Measure a plate, 9" is ideal (insert joke here) 1/4 lean protein, 1/4 complex carb, 1/2 fruits and/or vegetables.
* Eating at a restaurant is your responsibility to order healthy and control the portion you eat, not what they serve.
* Drink your water. There's so many rules out there. Ask doctor/dietician.
* Artificial sweeteners are suspected of still triggering the release of cortisol and adrenalin used to burn simple carbs. They find no simple carbs, thereby inducing a craving for said carbs.
* Hungry between meals? Snack! great time to get those fruits/veges and a little extra lean protien in. This will help keep your metabolism high.

Think about it. Y/your brain has been programmed over 30 mellenia or more, on how to survive. Only in the last 50 years has there been (in the United States, anyway) high fructose corn syrup, fats and salt added to almost anything, and some sort of store selling food almost anywhere you look in a city.

Past: Store fat... maybe no food tomorrow. Modern present: How full are your cupboards, refrigerator, freezer... and how close is a store? (with apologies to those in tough financial straights.)

Any hypnotist should be able to help you with direct suggestions for motivation in healthy habits of eating as well as your activity/working out.

A well-trained consulting hypnotist can help you discover why you have barriers to do the right things (as if any of this is stuff we don't know?) and then help you resolve those issues and move on to a naturally less stressed and more healthy lifestyle.

All the best,

MH

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/19/2007 12:38:59 PM

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As a side note: Swimming and other in-water based activities, while they do burn calories through the water's resistance and (swimming in particular, if you're a good swimmer) provide good cardiovascular workout, has one poor side effect. Water conducts heat more easily than air. Therefore, swimmers naturally build up a layer of fat under their skin/over their muscles as insulation, especially in women.

Also swimming and cycling are not weight-bearing exercise so they don't strenghthen bones as much as some others.

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/19/2007 12:58:36 PM

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Personally I think Atkiins is a good plan for short term quick weight-loss. However, for a lifetime of healthy eating I prefer South Beach. I don't know how you get enough fiber on Atkins without eating much whole grains, beans and fruit. Also there are a lot of vitamins and anti-oxidants in fruit that are hard to get elsewhere.

For those who think South Beach is low carb, it isn't. We avoid added sugars (natural sugar in most items is fine); we substitute whole grains for white flour; we avoid all trans-fats and limit saturated fats, but do eat plenty of "good" fats; we eat low fat dairy products; we eat a minimum of 4.5 cups of veggies a day; we eat up to 3 servings of fruit a day; we eat 2-3 snacks a day; we eat lots of lean protein including beans, soy, and a limited amount of nuts; we limit highly processed foods; and we are allowed 75-100 cal per day of "sweet treats". There is no requirement to use artificial sweetners although many of us do use them in limited amounts. The purpose is to keep our blood sugars at a steady level throughout the day which prevents sweet and starch cravings and helps control hunger, and may help prevent diabetes and heart disease. I've followed it for over three years and have found it very easy. My blood chemistry is excellent, and my tri-glycerides are below the normal range. Just some "food for thought".

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/19/2007 1:03:12 PM

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Ooops, oh yea... I just read that cycling can cause clitortal numbness.

See if you can find respectable sources to verify that -- there is a manufacturer of saddles who has been spreading the results of some bad science claiming cycling causes penile numbness, but this is false under normal riding conditions where you can change position periodically. I haven't heard the claim of clitoral numbness, but I'm not surprised they're trying to sell their magic saddles to women too.

Yesterday I was riding my rollers inside while watching the Paris-Nice bicycle race on tv. They showed a replay of a guy losing control and almost taking a bad crash, and it was so dramatic that I jerked my handlebars and almost crashed myself. heh

I get a little numbness sometimes when riding rollers, but that's because they are a lot easier to ride if I stay anchored in the saddle; if I stand up occasionally then it goes away immediately. I never get numbness when riding outside I change position on the bike a lot more often.

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RE: Diets, the Gym, tips, thoughts, goals? - 3/19/2007 2:32:41 PM

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i try not to be on a crazy diet. just sorta watch my calorie intake, and cardio of course. i have to skip the free weights because i am already kinda built for a woman. my only downfall is the soda. im am hopelessly addicted to it.

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