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popeye1250 -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/18/2007 8:12:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne You've never read muc h of the Bible have you? Retorical question, if you had you wouldn't be asking such a stupid question. The man believes in offerings being given to him. since we no longer do animal sacrifices other things are used. Such as praise. Or was your whole purpose in the post just a underhanded swipe at Hillary? K I've read the whole Bible when I was young. Oh, and I was raised Roman Catholic too so I know just a "little" bit about it. I was just wondering at the frequency of all the "Praise the Lords". I was just trying to imagine what God would be thinking after all those "Praise the Lords" in 5 minutes; "OK, OK, I HEARD YOU THE FIRST 28 TIMES!" Isn't saying it one time just as good as 100? Or 1,000? Oh, and Hillary Clinton doesn't need any underhanded swipes, she's perfectly capable of swiping herself.

PlayfulOne -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/19/2007 1:18:48 AM)
Reading nd understanding are two different things. You do remember that the angels were created to sing his praises. Oh no you don't or else you wouldn't have wondered the question. The way the book is written the god is an ego maniac. K

seeksfemslave -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/19/2007 1:53:13 AM)
I have noticed the following about types who may be accused of being God botherers... In an accident if someone loses one eye, both arms and a leg you will hear it said Isnt God wonderful, its a miracle no one was killed.? An exaggeration, maybe, but in principle.....TRUE.

popeye1250 -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/19/2007 11:29:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne Reading nd understanding are two different things. You do remember that the angels were created to sing his praises. Oh no you don't or else you wouldn't have wondered the question. The way the book is written the god is an ego maniac. K And who actually wrote the Bible, man or God?

StellaByStarlite -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/19/2007 11:44:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 And who actually wrote the Bible, man or God? LOl... this begs the question.. would anything worthy of our worship even want our worship?

PsyVamp -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/19/2007 11:55:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne Reading nd understanding are two different things. You do remember that the angels were created to sing his praises. Oh no you don't or else you wouldn't have wondered the question. The way the book is written the god is an ego maniac. K And who actually wrote the Bible, man or God? Who wrote which bible? Some of them are rather different you know... And then, who is interpreting what you are listening to? just worry about the stuff written in stone (lol) Psy (who very much believes in God)

ferryman777 -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/19/2007 11:58:11 AM)
I heard it...Praise the lord AND pass the ammunition. So, who cares...just give me that got damn bullet.

ferryman777 -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/19/2007 12:48:58 PM)
Geezzus....you really believe that...angels?????? better do some historial research as to this Bible. Popeye's querry is a ligit one. He ponders....where did the bible come from, God or man; and how? Okay, man inspired by God, then. Indeed. Angels ??? Michael, God's avenging angel, depicted with sword in hand, cuts down the unbelievers. The bible is a tool, to control people, the masses, the poor and uneducated, those are to be exploited, used. The educated have the tool to extort, make money, rule. Simple as that, no mystery. It serves to condition the brain to pacification, ....GOD wills it. Everyone wants to go to heaven, ......so do as I say, don't question anything....accept.......become ye as little children. Angels???? A child dies, before they reach the age of accountability, and infant, an innocent. Then they tell the poor grief striken parents, not to grieve, rather rejoice, GOD needed another angel, and took your child, rejoice. This is told, no matter how the child dies, .....in birth, sickness, famine, diease, accident, murdered, in war.....whatever. So this ...Angel......is pacification. If any death is caused by other than a natural cause, there should be outrage, but instead.....your baby has been called to be with GOD......oh, okay then. From all that I read, I draw the conclusion....God is a Facist. If there is a god. And what we argue, and ponder are words in a book, writen, printed, distributed by a government official office. It's The King James Version, that we are most familiar with. God.....is a narccistic ruthless, uncaring facist....needing constant worship.......nothing meek or mild about him/her...oh but it must have male gender. Yet we are told, "the meek shall inherit the earth." True enough, I believe that......6 foot of earth. Pray for those who would dis-spitefully use you.......sure, be calm, pray, don't raise a ruckus, don't raise an outcry against injustice; keep still and pray, not NOT rebel.......turn the other cheek. Please, give me a break. And why take the low snipe at Hillary ? Give her a chance, after all, everyone gave Arnold a chance, Reagan, Bush one & two. Ramsey got a chance, remember him, and little Jon Bonet Ramsey. And if you do something wrong, anything....blame it on satan...the devil made me do it...I was poccessed by demons. Satan's crime was......he attempted to rise up, and be as GOD. Satan challenged God's position of rule and was cast out. Adam & Eve were thrown out of the garden of Paradise...there crime ...disobience to the Law set down by God.....not to partake of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, of good and evil. All other is given unto you, but this is forbidden. Being coaxed by satan......God has forbidden you to partake of the tree, in the middle of the garden, the tree of knowlege of Good and Evil, if you partake of the fruit thereof, then shall ye be as God and nothing shall restrain you. When God saw what Adam & Eve had done, the angels (again) petitioned God to cast them out of paradise...lest they take of the fruit of the tree of life and become as we, and become as God. I think, they mis-spelled Angels...should have read...God created all the angles.

popeye1250 -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/19/2007 2:46:50 PM)
Yeah, I noticed that St. Michael smiting "unbelievers" part too. Hmmm,...now where have we heard THAT one before? Should we be sending muslims the likeness of St. Michael? Could muslim countries be expecting a "visit" from St. Michael anyday now? They do that "Allah Akbar" stuff incessantly too!

Sinergy -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/19/2007 6:04:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave What I heard was..Praise the Lord but pass the ammunition. Not quite correct, the correct term is "Praise the Lord and pass the offer box." Sinergy

Dtesmoac -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/19/2007 7:52:00 PM)
Slightly off topic but one big difference between Brits and Americans Within one day of meeting an American you'll know which church they go too. 30 years after meeting a Brit you'll still be guessing.

MsParados -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/20/2007 1:00:51 AM)
well someone here must have gotten a spanking from a nun and not like what popped up because of it..... while yes past catholic leaders abused their power, so has ever other leader in the whole history of the world, get over it, they issued an apology in 1996 (I thiink, maybe 1993) The basic tenets of the catholic path (amended Vatican II) focuses on the Beattitutes, which if we all took into consideration would make this earth a little nicer (imo) It always amazes me how some people can watch the history channel, read maybe a book or two of one versen of the bible, mix a little hollywoodism in for good measure and POOF they are a theologen.... I won't even broach the subject of this being the golden era of christanity, Lord knows I don't want those post mill 3rd coming of christ sects to start chiming in with all the anti-catholic double talk.

popeye1250 -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/20/2007 4:44:12 AM)
Parados, I was asking if people thought that God might annoyed with all the "Praise the Lords," "Hallelieuahs", and "God is greats" all the time. And if people in here had really paid attention to the Bible when they were reading it they might have noticed that it is not the story of the Christians but the story of the Jews.

Mercnbeth -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/20/2007 5:25:23 AM)
quote: ...while yes past catholic leaders abused their power, so has ever other leader in the whole history of the world, get over it, they issued an apology in 1996 (I thiink, maybe 1993) The basic tenets of the catholic path (amended Vatican II) focuses on the Beattitutes, which if we all took into consideration would make this earth a little nicer (imo)... well, IMO, what a crock. Apologies mean nothing when you don’t change your ways. The catholic path you espouse, while paved with good intentions: has no room for practicing homosexuals won’t allow it’s women birth control or a shot at leading a congregation of the faithful has monopolized health care (and limited the choices of NON catholic women) in smaller towns where tax-paying hospitals can’t compete with them. Embracing homophobia and misogyny do NOT make this earth a little nicer. to popeye: isn't that why Catholics created saints to pray to, because God is just too busy to deal with all the hallelujiahs and prayers?[;)]

StellaByStarlite -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/20/2007 5:36:43 AM)
well, IMO, what a crock. Apologies mean nothing when you don’t change your ways. The catholic path you espouse, while paved with good intentions: has no room for practicing homosexuals won’t allow it’s women birth control or a shot at leading a congregation of the faithful has monopolized health care (and limited the choices of NON catholic women) in smaller towns where tax-paying hospitals can’t compete with them. Embracing homophobia and misogyny do NOT make this earth a little nicer. to popeye: isn't that why Catholics created saints to pray to, because God is just too busy to deal with all the hallelujiahs and prayers?[;)] [/quote] Well.. in my opinion, all religion and spirituality is a bunch of crock. =) Christianity hardly has a monopoly on atrocity. Murder and insanity are part and parcel of pretty much all of them. I mean.. it makes perfect sense, right? since religion/spirituality are based on faith (see: unseen realities) then anything goes. Reason goes flying out the window. All of a sudden.. "there is no reality".... "all there is is OUR perception". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that faith and theism in general may not be the best ways to instill ethics. Cheers, Stella

Mercnbeth -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/20/2007 7:30:45 AM)
quote: Well.. in my opinion, all religion and spirituality is a bunch of crock. =) Stella, Religion maybe a crock, but spirituality has it's place of importance. I am of the opinion that more people have been killed in the name of religion than have been saved by it. In the past I've argued on the side saying that humanity would be better served without any formal religion but observation over time has caused me to amend that belief slightly. Humanity needs religion because humans inherently lack spirituality exemplified as consideration for their fellow man. Religion, more precisely, the penalties resulting from not following a religions laws is what enabled humans to become "civilized". In the old times the segregated religious communities "policed" their citizens not just by the threat of earthly prosecution, but by the concept of "eternal" damnation. Sure there still were criminals, but the masses; the ignorant, or more politely put, naive masses were kept in line and controlled by getting them to believe in a Deity who was on the one hand kind, gentle and forgiving, but who would condemn a child to hell if he ate a pepperoni pizza on a Friday and got hit by a car on his way home from the pizza shop. Somewhere along the line, people stopped or refused to accept religion as a cause to behave.The traditional religions wane but they are quickly replaced by other "religions". Communism, environmentalism, political correct-ism, even liberalism and conservatism, among many other "isms"; meet the qualifications to be called a "religion". They are based upon principles and ideals that can neither be proved or denied, they require absolute belief - if they fail its just because ALL didn't believe strongly enough, and as a practitioner any other "ism" is inherently wrong and those practicing it should be mocked and ridiculed as fools and "non-believers". But unless we have a personal spirituality inclusive of some consideration to others, we'll need an ever growing police force. Without a "religion" of consideration, no "sin" - from theft to murder, can't be rationalized as acceptable as a means to an ends of personal pleasure and/or comfort. Without a religion the crime becomes getting caught, and the earthy consequences of getting caught; not the act. The obvious result is there are more acts committed. Without eternal damnation staring you in the face - "just do it!" replaces "amen".

Devilslilsister -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/20/2007 7:33:49 AM)
Religion blows chunks and the bible is an interesting book. Do i think he gets tired of it? Nah, i think he has the capacity of tuning it out. If he doesnt want to hear it......... he doesnt have too............. ya know.. he's GOD.. he gets his.. um.. way...

Celeste43 -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/20/2007 7:37:33 AM)
Since I'm a Jew, I can't speak about the kind of praying you're talking about. But prayer for us is rarely personal, not unless you're a prophet and God speaks first to you. Prayer for us is not like a kid nagging his mother for the newest toy on the block, it's to help us strengthen our community ties. To make us a people who stay on the righteous path. We have a covenant with God, we are supposed to fulfill our part and He will fulfill His.

StellaByStarlite -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/20/2007 7:47:39 AM)
Ok, I'll bite. =) Are you saying that human beings NEED a spiritual base to have solid morals/values/ethics? What about an ethics system that is based on scientific worldview.. or the old-school secular humanism? I mean, following your logic ( although if I'm incorrect, feel free to bitchslap this entire post, heheh), atheists have no ethics. Which is demonstratably false. For clarification's sake.. I am not anti-theist. there is nothing wrong with honest theology and personal spirituality in itself. But I do take issue with the idea that faith or spirituality is the only real way to develop values or ethics. One can be totally without faith and still lead a good, decent life. Maybe I misinterpreted your post, but it seems like you're saying that without spirituality, humanity automatically turns to anti-social, barbaric behavior. Well, religion and spirituality as a whole aren't exactly cutting down on atrocity. Maybe we need to present another system as a viable option. Stella

juliaoceania -> RE: "Praise the Lord!" (3/20/2007 7:47:50 AM)
quote: Well.. in my opinion, all religion and spirituality is a bunch of crock. =) I am perplexed, do you believe spirituality and religion are the same thing?

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