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RE: What life experiences have shaped your political po... - 3/25/2007 4:07:28 AM

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Dtesmoac, we're so far apart on this topic that we'll just go 'round in circles. If a thread ever comes up about the miner's strike and the calculated dismantling of British institutions, then we'll have the chat then.

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RE: What life experiences have shaped your political po... - 3/25/2007 3:02:58 PM

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Meatcleaver: its no good getting all het up about the confrontations that occurred during the 2nd miners' strike.
Surely you can see that Scargill was politically motivated rather than trying to look after the interests of the mining workforce. Scargill was right in his predictions about Thatcher's intentions but got carried away and tried confrontation first.
A sure sign of a demagogue and it didn't work.

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RE: What life experiences have shaped your political po... - 3/25/2007 4:13:17 PM

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You a great amount of wisdom, caitlyn, from having lived through
such tough experiences.

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

Politically, my expectations are realistically low. The world is so bad, no mortal man or women will ever make more than a dent. Evil will be with us always ... if it isn't an unpopular war, it will be genocide ... or aids ... or tens of thousands of children walking the streets, running from nightmare world. The best we can do, is try to maintain our class and dignity, hold our head high, and do the best we can. Those are my only expectations from our leaders.

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RE: What life experiences have shaped your political po... - 3/25/2007 4:48:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I take issue with the idea that it was the unions that brought the end to British manufacturing industry.

I would have to agree. Statements like this make me think of the hundreds of historians who have proven there was a specific cause for the fall of the Roman Empire. I tend to think it is a lot of things.

Britain has been playing catch up since the end of World War 2. The United States and other allies retooled Germany and Japan, allowing them economic supremacy, in order to prevent Soviet expansion.

It was determined that Great Britain had gotten enough of our help during the war, and it was more important to prevent World War 3.

A lot of factors have been causative in shaping their economy for the past 60 years, and to pin it on trade unions seems rather myopic.

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RE: What life experiences have shaped your political po... - 3/26/2007 3:20:19 AM

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Thank you very much for the compliment, NG!

Something that has been in the back of my mind for a few days
is the experience I had with 12 years of parochial schooling,
both Pentecostal and Baptist. Both sides thought the other side
was "going to hell in a hand-basket" and were convinced that they
had the one, real, only truth about the Nature of Divinity.

I saw some many examples of hypocrisy, lies, deceit and
abuse of power within both groups. And I also knew people
who lived by ethics of compassion and caring and honesty.
My strong dislike for censorship and imposing religious viewpoints
on the general public comes directly from those years.

I learned to pay attention to how a person behaves, not just
what they say. And I learned the important of respect for
all faiths. The narrow minded bigotry of both groups
propeled me forward into examining other religions,
philosophies and spiritualities. I strive to find common
ground with people who have good hearts and minds.
We do not always agree, but that is fine. Such is the
nature of the human animal.

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One thing is common in all of these threads - circumstance and environment shape who we are. A good thread, Vendaval.

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RE: What life experiences have shaped your political po... - 3/26/2007 5:34:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Both sides thought the other side
was "going to hell in a hand-basket" and were convinced that they
had the one, real, only truth about the Nature of Divinity.

lol, they sound like a right old barrel of laughs.

I think it's quite easy to be consumed by an idea. Our media and education are geared towards introducing and cementing a certain ideal, and I'll estimate it's the same all over the world. If we're constantly fed the same messages, then it's not difficult to become consumed by the message. I'll take a guess that most of us do not know what and who's ideas are driving our societies.

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

I strive to find common
ground with people who have good hearts and minds.
We do not always agree, but that is fine. Such is the
nature of the human animal.

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This makes perfect sense to me. I think many of us have the same intention, but hold a difference of opinion over how best to achieve the aim. If the intention is built on a sense of fair play, then the person is alright in my book.

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