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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/22/2007 9:34:14 PM

homedespot

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Longest jssubc went without an orgasm was 19 months. He is teased or brought to the edge of orgasm daily, sometimes several time daily. He is milked when I feel like it but no less then every six weeks.

A number of articles link orgasm with a decrease in prostate cancer....I believe the research is rather clear on this.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/04/07/MNGS161ML91.DTL

I have ready several studies that indicate that "milking" works as well.

He will not stay in complete chastity because I enjoy hearing him beg...and enjoy the control I have when he knows that I just MIGHT let him.

Why do you ask?

J.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/22/2007 9:48:08 PM

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Healthy male can live in chastity without orgasm for long time. Organism re-assimilates unused sperm and liquids. After prolonged time (months) without orgasm sperm production will be reduced as well as sex drive. I have met people who have been locked up for years. Penis tube with piercing seems to be the best choice (Lori chastity device for example) as it is secure and wearable 24/7.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/23/2007 2:43:59 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: homedespot

Longest jssubc went without an orgasm was 19 months. He is teased or brought to the edge of orgasm daily, sometimes several time daily. He is milked when I feel like it but no less then every six weeks.

A number of articles link orgasm with a decrease in prostate cancer....I believe the research is rather clear on this.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/04/07/MNGS161ML91.DTL

I have ready several studies that indicate that "milking" works as well.

He will not stay in complete chastity because I enjoy hearing him beg...and enjoy the control I have when he knows that I just MIGHT let him.

Why do you ask?

J.

I think your sub / slave is very lucky to have such an understanding Mistress / partner. Whilst I fully accept the right of any future Mistress (should I be fortunate enough to be taken into ownership) to keep me in secure chastity, to know that i would never be allowed to orgasm again at the outset would cause me to be resigned to this and remove the antisipatory factor of my mistress determining a release for me. This would obviously be when She wanted it to happen and is, therefore, part of Her control and has a significant influence on my obedience and service to Her as well as being a factor in the affection that we would (hopefully) have for each other within our respective positions.
I do not feel that i could commit to a Mistress on a personal basis if my service required total orgasm denial. I see this as being quite different to total chastity control where the Mistress decrees when an orgasm will be permitted and how this will be achieved. I accept that as a slave I might be permanently denied penetrative sex and self masturbation, but for the reasons outlined above and having regard to the potential health issue, total abstenace from orgasm is not for me.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/23/2007 9:47:18 AM

WickedMs

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Do any slaves live in TOTAL chastity? I have some questions:

- Does anyone actually live in complete chastity, going the rest of their life without orgasm?

I don't think any man can actually live without orgasm or with complete chastity. No matter what the chastity device there will be skin breakdown and a need to go without chastity for some time to allow healing. Even if it were possible to live in permanent and complete chastity the prostate in a normal, healthy male seems to find a way to orgasm. It might be nocturnal emission. It might be a spontaneous orgasm that happens while awake. It might be an excessive, sudden discharge while going to the bathroom or immediately thereafter.

- If so, are they "milked", and how often?

- Are some slaves in chastity but allowed occasional masturbation privileges, instead of milking?

- Is milking medically necessary, or does the body naturally release the semen as necessary (such as through wet dreams)?

Periodic permissive masturbation and milking are not necessary. They are behavioral control and conditioning devices. Femdom has a great way of turning things on their heads. For example, masturbation is generally a private activity done at the time and place of a man's choosing. Here the Fem might make it public in that she witnesses it. She picks the time and place and uses the activity to humiliate the man. Milking is something done to a female mammal rather than a male. Strap on play in gives a similar reversal of roles. It's genius stuff, really.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/23/2007 3:13:13 PM

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Hey,
The best sex I ever had was with a non orgasmic woman, she do anything to earn her cum. I went and spent the time helping her become orgasmic. No good deed goes unpunished, she made up for lost time and got caught up to around 2046! Lost all her pleasing focus, Standard slave conditioning is one orgasm in three weeks, makes then submissive and willing to do anything in hopes of being allowed to cum. That is the game plan for both isn't it?
The point someone who does not orgasm, may get their self acceptance by making others cum. It is about Total Power Exchange to me, some Doms/Dommes are truly selfish, some can not be happy unless someone else is not. Denying orgasm unless they are at their permission and force their slaves to service to the ugliest grossest people you can find they make them selfs look good in comparison. Some want the orgasms be so intense they bond the lave to them. What I do, sort of the difference between dog training bye punishment or reward.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/23/2007 4:31:17 PM

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I honestly don't understand the desire to or to have someone live in total chastity. It's a concept that escapes me.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/23/2007 4:48:04 PM

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Total chastity may work but enforced orgasm denial may backfire. I find that if I am denied orgasm for whatever reason: physical, emotional, psychological, the desire disappears altogether. It's like a switch I can turn off in my mind. The more I get it, the more I want it of course. But if I don't get for awhile, I don't want anymore. And the result of forcing an orgasm or trying to arouse me to one is usually unsatisfying for both of us. It worked well as a defense mechanism during a bad marriage with lousy sex. This seems to be quite common among women, this turn-off switch, from what I've read.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/23/2007 4:53:53 PM

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For this unworthy slave, it has lived with chastity for many years., but not TOTAL chastity. Part of the User/Owner's control and part of TPE is Her/His ability to regulate orgasms and to use anticipation as a 24/7 mental torture. As a slave it accepts its role and the control of its User.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/23/2007 11:32:25 PM

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Greetings My woman
hmm...does that mean that upon your visit here that....nevermind.
(grinning evilly...and somewhat quizzically as well)

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/24/2007 12:30:06 AM

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It would be diffucult with a working set of tools

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/24/2007 6:01:01 AM

Aubre

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quote:

ORIGINAL: homedespot

Longest jssubc went without an orgasm was 19 months. He is teased or brought to the edge of orgasm daily, sometimes several time daily. He is milked when I feel like it but no less then every six weeks.

I think this is what subs want when they talk about wanting permanent or total chastity. They don't want to orgasm, but they want to be teased/edged as often as possible, and (if male) to be milked via prostate massage.

ShiftedJewel, if a Domme/Dom treats their chastity sub like homedespot does, there isn't really a suppression of excitement - actually excitement is maintained, and desire is not only not "killed" but is magnified.

The goal for most of the subs is to be in and to prolong the pre-orgasmic horniness state as long as possible. I think the number of subs who want to simply be locked up and never teased or edged is quite small. I also think that unfortunately a lot of the Dom/Dommes out there either don't get this, or don't want to do this, and I think that's when it loses its luster.

In summary, chastity + daily tease/edging = win, chastity - daily tease/edging = lose.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/24/2007 6:23:14 AM

xoxi

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Do you see chastity as no sex or no orgasm?

If it's no sex I have absolutely NO interest.

If it's no orgasm...I was sexually active from age 16-23 without having one. I got close to having one quite a few times but made the guy stop. They freaked me out - it felt like my heart was about to burst like an atomic bomb or something. Way intense and way scary. After having one I realized that you only feel that *until* you have it...and actually that was kind of dissappointing.

I can honestly say I can live the rest of my life without ever having another orgasm. They kinda suck. But no sex, and no arousal...no fucking way.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/24/2007 6:37:09 AM

Aubre

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There has to be arousal. There can even be sex. I think it would be more fun in a situation where the sub was having a lot of orgasms before the chastity started.
I'm saying, you do whatever but the sub doesn't have an orgasm, you try to keep them as horny as possible for as long as you can. Just one person's thoughts and idea. You and I are on the same page. Trying to keep the bubble of desire and arousal from being broken by orgasm. It sounds funny to say this but for a lot of people the orgasm is anti-climatic. Kind of a tantric idea.

< Message edited by Aubre -- 9/24/2007 6:42:02 AM >

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/24/2007 6:41:52 AM

xoxi

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Now that would be *heaven* and has been the case in most of my relationships.

When I have an orgasm...I get sleepy. No more sex time...I turn into an instant cuddle monster whose muscles move like I'm floating and can barely form coherent sentences. Orgasm = sex is done. I try to *tell* guys that but of course, being guys, they never *listen* and just want to prove they can make me come. Then get mad when I say "um I told you once I came I wasn't going to be in the mood for more sex...you can jerk off on my tits if you want but you're so cleaning me off too"

But when I don't have to bother with orgasms I'm a total nympho freak who wants more more more...and it's fun and awesome and I'm totally happy.

I always thought 'chastity' meant no sex. But if it just means no orgasms consider me a fan!

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/24/2007 6:50:51 AM

Aubre

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Chastity can mean no sex, but that's not how I would choose to do it.

One idea I like for example of locking a woman up so that she can't masturbate, then when I am with her, finding all the ways I can that don't involve actual genital contact to arouse her. Perhaps I tie her down before removing the belt so that she never is able to touch herself, that's only for me, and then have lots of teasing and sex, having her tell me when she is close to orgasm so I can slow things down. Lots of bringing her to the brink and slowing down (edging). After a few hours, locking her belt back on, then untying her. That's just once scenario of many.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/24/2007 6:58:45 AM

xoxi

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Very hot. I love the 'edging' thing...I always did that before I even knew there was a name for it. It was just 'stop I'm about to come" and he would look at me like "ok so why do you want me to stop??"

I can't imagine wearing a chastity belt. That just looks SO uncomfortable...I can't even sleep wtih a necklace or ring on. But then again I don't masturbate so I guess it wouldn't even be necessary. It might be cute to wear like under a skirt if we went out somewhere but I think that would make me be hyper aware of my sexuality rather than making me chaste

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/24/2007 7:05:25 AM

Aubre

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You really are getting the point :) With women at least, it's about as you said, making you "hyper aware" of your sexuality.

You might want to check out

http://tantalism.org

All female teasing and orgasm denial, all the time.

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/24/2007 7:06:50 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

quote:

and i seldom ever masturbate......seldom ever......maybe once a month if i care enough..

I have a question... now I'm serious here. I really and honestly do not understand absolute chastity. To me it seems that getting physically excited is as natural as breathing, ok so you want to supress it and that's fine, but what happens if you supress it over long periods of time? And I don't mean as far as prostrate health goes. If you are successful in completely "taming" the raging hardon, don't you also eventually succeed in "killing" the desire all together? Would there come a point where impotence would be a serious issue?

Jewel

I don't know about the impotence thing, but I have heard lots of tales of long-term chastity leading to a death of desire. The body and mind are not THAT stupid :) They'll give up eventually.
Smythe

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/24/2007 7:11:00 AM

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The body will eventually get rid of the buildup - however, onceburned was also correct in his statement that the sphincters that control the releases are separate. Going from what I have learned in the last 5 years (4 in school and 1 as a practicing nurse) it's healthier for the prostate to not have to drain itself. If your owner doesn't want you to orgasm, then milking is an exceptable alternative, but something needs to happen to release the buildup of seminal fluids.

There is no research about how often it needs to be done, but since the first line treatment for prostate enlargement (which causes urinary tract constriction - and trust me, you do NOT want to have to go through urethra enlargement if it gets pinched off by your prostate - and has been shown to lead to prostate cancer) is more frequent orgasms, it makes sense that regular orgasm would help to prevent enlargement and the problems associated with it.

I can't tell you how glad I am that it was a woman who made this statement first...the one I have made bold above. I am afraid that if a guy had made it first, then there would have been all sorts of comedowns upon his head. But there is indeed medical evidence that points to the non-release of semen...and no, not just through milking...as being potentially harmful.

I find it amusing that one of the basest biological functions...the orgasm and the thoughts that drive it and come with it...serves a very useful, healthful purpose and yet, some cannot see beyond the whole idea of "tis all that men think about and by God, I am going to at least control the physical aspects of it...up to and including NO ORGASM EVER" and by doing so, endanger the health of their "pet".

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RE: Does anyone do TOTAL chastity? - 9/24/2007 8:09:28 AM

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This seems to be almost exclusively a male fetish on the bottom side. Women into it are rare.

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