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mixielicous -> why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:39:41 AM)
on another site, on a topic i wont mention b/c it will completely derail this thread, it was mentioned that in australia it is the law to vote. Now i am asking, why isnt it the law here[USA]? IMO, it would be a great revinue for the govt [she said if you dont vote = fine] and it would finally motivate people to get out to the polls.. most of these people who ARE registered and SHOULD be voting. now i can see where some people might be scared of what would happen were every US citizen forced to vote, but if we all have the right to vote, we should not be scared of what might happen when it is finally exercised across the board.

missturbation -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:45:08 AM)
If it was made law to vote over here in the UK i would just vote for the most stupid option / party. I have no interest in politics and think all parties are the same. I've never voted.

mixielicous -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:47:13 AM)
thanks for your opinion, but i will hold my tongue and also ask that all other replies please refrain flaming statements like this b/c i am sick of losing threads to Threadkilosis

Rule -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:49:02 AM)
So another law, another obstruction of freedom, another jail without bars, but present nevertheless. Democracy is not freedom. Democracy sucks. Democracy offers people the illusion of a choice, but that is all it is. Democracy is the illusion, the big hoax.

Lorgrom -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:50:45 AM)
Just becouse someone has the right to vote does not mean they have to vote.

mixielicous -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:50:53 AM)
i hate to be the bubble burster, but were a republic. we elect people to vote for us.

farglebargle -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:51:30 AM)
"If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." -- Emma Goldman.

mixielicous -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:51:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lorgrom Just because someone has the right to vote does not mean they have to vote. well, i hope you don't complain about Bush then!

Lorgrom -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:53:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous i hate to be the bubble burster, but were a republic. we elect people to vote for us. Agreeded we are a republic. But even our elected reprensitives have the right to abstain from voting on things while in office. So why remove that same choice from the people?

Lorgrom -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:54:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous quote: ORIGINAL: Lorgrom Just because someone has the right to vote does not mean they have to vote. well, i hope you don't complain about Bush then! Actually I voted for him both times (as well as his father). So why would I complain about him?

missturbation -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:57:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous thanks for your opinion, but i will hold my tongue and also ask that all other replies please refrain flaming statements like this b/c i am sick of losing threads to Threadkilosis The point is you force people to vote and you are going to get a lot of people voting for stupid parties because they wish to take no part in the election. It wasnt a flame or a thread kill it was a point why voting shouldnt be made law.

caitlyn -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:57:17 AM)
Well mixie ... I'm not sure why you would consider that response a flame, and might suggest that by that standard, all you are going to get is flames. [;)] I go the other direction. I think at the polling both, you should have to answer ten general and simple questions concerning the platform of the person you are voting for. If you miss a question, your vote doesn't count.

mixielicous -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:57:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lorgrom quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous i hate to be the bubble burster, but were a republic. we elect people to vote for us. Agreeded we are a republic. But even our elected reprensitives have the right to abstain from voting on things while in office. So why remove that same choice from the people? i see your argument, and raise you 'for the people, BY the people' if there are people out there not voting, our country is not a fair representation of its citizens. if people dont want to vote, i find its generally not b/c they dont want to, rather there is nothing to vote on that strikes a cord. while i realize mt current statement does nothing but prove YOUR point, i am sure you can see mine.

mixielicous -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 6:58:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: caitlyn Well mixie ... I'm not sure why you would consider that response a flame, and might suggest that by that standard, all you are going to get is flames. [;)] I go the other direction. I think at the polling both, you should have to answer ten general and simple questions concerning the platform of the person you are voting for. If you miss a question, your vote doesn't count. i was misunderstood, i didnt want the thread to get derailed by people lecturing missturbation on the importance of voting

AquaticSub -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 7:01:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous on another site, on a topic i wont mention b/c it will completely derail this thread, it was mentioned that in australia it is the law to vote. Now i am asking, why isnt it the law here[USA]? IMO, it would be a great revinue for the govt [she said if you dont vote = fine] and it would finally motivate people to get out to the polls.. most of these people who ARE registered and SHOULD be voting. now i can see where some people might be scared of what would happen were every US citizen forced to vote, but if we all have the right to vote, we should not be scared of what might happen when it is finally exercised across the board. Why should you be required to vote in America? That doesn't make sense. Some people I know vote by not voting. They can't cast their ballet for either of the people in question because of moral reasons so they just don't vote.

mixielicous -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 7:01:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: missturbation quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous thanks for your opinion, but i will hold my tongue and also ask that all other replies please refrain flaming statements like this b/c i am sick of losing threads to Threadkilosis The point is you force people to vote and you are going to get a lot of people voting for stupid parties because they wish to take no part in the election. It wasnt a flame or a thread kill it was a point why voting shouldnt be made law. there can be a common ground met by simply having an option on the poll ie "i disagree with all candidates" or theres always the write in candidate, someone named kuka this year haha. the objective is not to force people who adamantly disagree with the people to vote on, but the people who are too lazy to get themselves educated on opinions and out to the polls.

AquaticSub -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 7:03:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous thanks for your opinion, but i will hold my tongue and also ask that all other replies please refrain flaming statements like this b/c i am sick of losing threads to Threadkilosis That isn't a flaming statement. It's an opinion that disagrees with your own. I think the notion of requiring people to vote is silly. If you require them to vote then you have to require people to informed about politics because otherwise you will have huge segament of the population voting randomly just to avoid the fine. You try educating people about politics against their will. That would be waste of time, energy and money. And is probably more pointless then starting another "sub vs. slave" thread.

caitlyn -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 7:03:36 AM)
... "all other replies please refrain flaming statements like this" is a little hard to not understand ... especially since, at the time, it was the only response. Good try though. [;)][;)]

missturbation -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 7:04:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous quote: ORIGINAL: missturbation quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous thanks for your opinion, but i will hold my tongue and also ask that all other replies please refrain flaming statements like this b/c i am sick of losing threads to Threadkilosis The point is you force people to vote and you are going to get a lot of people voting for stupid parties because they wish to take no part in the election. It wasnt a flame or a thread kill it was a point why voting shouldnt be made law. there can be a common ground met by simply having an option on the poll ie "i disagree with all candidates" or theres always the write in candidate, someone named kuka this year haha. the objective is not to force people who adamantly disagree with the people to vote on, but the people who are too lazy to get themselves educated on opinions and out to the polls. Lol there is absolutely no way that i am going to go to the polling station to tick a box that says i dont want to vote. And just how will that make me educate myself in politics when i have the option of refraining from voting anyway by ticking the no vote box?

Lorgrom -> RE: why isnt it the law here, too? (3/22/2007 7:05:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mixielicous the objective is not to force people who adamantly disagree with the people to vote on, but the people who are too lazy to get themselves educated on opinions and out to the polls. You just said where the major problem would be with passing such a law. Such a law does not require people to become eduicated about the issues, only that they show up and cast a vote.

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