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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 11:53:19 AM

BRNaughtyAngel

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I don't "get it", but if that's what the two of you want, then more power to you...... but what about quality of life?

Maybe I'm just not kinky enough, but there is a lot more to living a full life than just being taken out and played with on occasion and eating food through a tube. Don't you ever again want to do the thousands of simple (and even complicated) things that we do in life that relax us, excite us, make us cry, make us smile, make us laugh..... that make us human?

I just don't understand, but then again..... I guess I don't need to.

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 12:03:40 PM

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Hmmm.....would living in a box of chocolates count? :D

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 12:14:15 PM

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I long to serve and in my mind no matter how i twist and turn this i cant see being placed in a box to live 24/7 as a service. Master would have to care for me, watch me, make sure i am ok, feed me, exercise me ect ect. Yes, i know if Master wants this then i am serving but still in my mind i want to useful and make his life as easy as possible not be a burden.

Please dont get me wrong if it works for you and yours then great. I just cant come to grips with it.

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 12:19:45 PM

subtexxxt

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I have to be honest...personally I DO wonder about your level of sanity or at the very least, just what you consider to be level-headed.

I am going to assume that you want to be a pleasure slave...and not just a pleasure slave but a kept pleasure slave. If your mistress has a fantasy of someone being kept locked away that she never has to deal with except to feed and toilet and that she can use whenever she wants for pain and pleasure, then it sounds perfect...except:
What happens to your mental health with no interaction with anyone besides your mistress and then, only for pleasure and for toilet breaks?
What happens to your physical stamina and overall physical health with no use of the muscles and ligaments and joints except for occasional pleasure? Do you honestly think that your body will remain in the state it is in now with no use?
While at first glance, this seems like a sacrifice on your part and you make it sound as if you have reached some deep level of slavery, let's look a little closer...as others have done more nicely than I will

You will not have to do a thing except act as a sextoy or a paintoy. If you are in a box all day...at your request and in fulfillment of your fantasy...how is that slavery? Unless, as noted earlier, there is some mistress out there who has the fantasy of wanting to go out and work to not only support herself but a human toy. This sounds to me...more than anything...like some self-indulgent, moronic-in-that-it-has-not-been-thought-out scheme to fulfill your fantasy only. Maybe you are thinking that those female supremacists who have little use for males most of the time anyway would jump at this chance...I don't pretend to understand female supremacy and the entire thought process that goes into it but from what I have read, I just don't see any of them hopping on your little bandwagon soon. Finally...where is your drive, man? Where is your motivation to do something in life besides indulge yourself? You say you are caring...what level of care for anyone but yourself does this kind of life that you propose show for anyone but yourself? Now...you might think I have something against male submissives or male slaves because I am a male dominant but you'd be wrong. I would have the same thought process regarding a female submissive or slave who desired this.

But then...I have a hard time admiring people whose brains and character seem to have got stuck in a fantasy novel. A few days...a week...maybe. A lifetime? Horse.......................................feathers.
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wow.

i appreciate Your honesty but You're making alot of presumtions and may not have read my first post fully.

i have said i will be outside of the box to maintain healthy physical activity it's just that the box will be where i am when not doing what Mistress desires and will interact with some others. imagine it is something that would in many ways reflect the US penal system, are not inmates kept in their cell for most of their day and allowed out for certain activities?!

To make the wild presumption that this is a moronic self indulgence and not thought out is simply foolish on Your part Sir. You have no idea of O/our level of means, my personal drive and accomplishments or character for that matter. How do You know this was my fantasy and not a shared vision by Mistress and i?? Once again all presumtions.

However You are entitled to Your opinion and i respect that, if not Your obtuse manner.

Humbly,

subtexxxt

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 12:45:22 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subtexxxt

To answer some of the qustions posted:

The box will be so designed that even though locked an immediate exit will be possible [from inside or outside - which i am to only use from the inside in an extreme emergency] if needed and also understand that being fiberglass it will be transparent.

a routine would be created outside the box for strectching, exercise, outside activity [taken out and walked on the grounds] and etc for the body.

i am the owned property of Mistress and would not be working, thus the explanation of 24/7 and not leaving home and the box unless Mistress so desired it.

Suffice it to say that i will be "watched" while in the box.

The point of family and friends is totally understood but to begin with this type of slavery is extreme and not for the timid and has already been taken under consideration.

Cooking and cleaning isn't my role, my role is to be used and stay in the box for my Mistress until She so desires my role to be otherwise. Of course if She desired there's no reeason i couldn't be let out of the box for just those reasons and then put back in.

To those that think it sounds boring or like too much effort i submit that it doesn't for Mistress and i and i ask Y/you to remember one of the beautiful things about the lifestyle is acceptance and tolerance whether Y/you understand or can relate to something or not.

: )

subtexxxt

i just read this and then reread the op and OMG, you have just described my ex Mistress's turtle. He even lives in a Plexi Box. Of course she just picks him up and sets him on the floor when she wants to play with him, and his food is bound to be a lot cheaper too. But getting back to your post....

You are correct about tolerance and acceptance. i never meant to imply i thought there was anything wrong in you desiring this. i just doubt you will find it easy to meet someone who also wants this.

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 12:51:06 PM

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Edited to add: and a computer with access to WOW

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 12:55:06 PM

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I would be very very careful about that idea. Do you have any idea what psychological ramifications are involved with that kind of prolonged solitary confinement ?

Solitary Confinement and Sensory Deprivation have been proven to cause a number of very serious issues, including:
paranoia, anxiety, depression, and psychosis (including schizophrenia). Unless your mistress is an expert in dealing with these issues, I would suggest you keep it to a fantasy. It doesn't take a whole lot of time to break the human mind.

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 1:03:19 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subtexxxt

To those that think it sounds boring or like too much effort i submit that it doesn't for Mistress and i and i ask Y/you to remember one of the beautiful things about the lifestyle is acceptance and tolerance whether Y/you understand or can relate to something or not.

: )

subtexxxt

Please, you must understand that we aren't condeming nor are we being judgemental on this. For myself and maybe for many others, we are having a difficult time wrapping our thoughts around this idea. Which is reason for these questions and concerns we have in regards to this fantasy. As noted, you have requested for our thoughts and we have expressed them to best of our ability, thus we are trying to do so with open minds. :)

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 1:08:33 PM

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Has anybody built a automatic Skinner box for humans? Or would that overlap with predicament bondage?

< Message edited by Rafters -- 3/24/2007 1:21:03 PM >

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 1:44:57 PM

orfunboi

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rafters

Has anybody built a automatic Skinner box for humans? Or would that overlap with predicament bondage?

Ok, i'll bite...what's a skinner box?

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 2:00:31 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: orfunboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rafters

Has anybody built a automatic Skinner box for humans? Or would that overlap with predicament bondage?

Ok, i'll bite...what's a skinner box?

That would be the one where the lab rat gets the cheese if it picks the correct door, and an electric jolt if it picks the wrong door.

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 2:02:34 PM

OsideGirl

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quote:

ORIGINAL: puella

I would be very very careful about that idea. Do you have any idea what psychological ramifications are involved with that kind of prolonged solitary confinement ?

Solitary Confinement and Sensory Deprivation have been proven to cause a number of very serious issues, including:
paranoia, anxiety, depression, and psychosis (including schizophrenia). Unless your mistress is an expert in dealing with these issues, I would suggest you keep it to a fantasy. It doesn't take a whole lot of time to break the human mind.

Exactly...and then combine it with strictly NLP interaction. I see it as a potential disaster.

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 2:07:15 PM

orfunboi

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Now that sounds like it has some possibilities....

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 2:11:00 PM

LotusSong

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Alright...color me ignorant. What is NLP training?

No light perception, a type of blindness (I had to look that up also :)

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 2:18:22 PM

nookie

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Think of the chicken in the box at the fair that's gets food when it steps on or pecks at a key.

A Skinner Box is a often small chamber that is used to conduct operant conditioning research with animals. Within the chamber, there is usually a lever (for rats) or a key (for pigeons) that an individual animal can operate to obtain a food or water within the chamber as a reinforcer. The chamber is connected to electronic equipment that records the animal's lever pressing or key pecking, thus allowing for the precise quantification of behavior.

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 2:19:40 PM

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Gees, I didn't meant to yell. Sorry.

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 2:21:35 PM

Missokyst

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Recently I was checking out those realistic sex dolls on the realdolls site. Sounds like your mistress wouldn't mind having one of those. 2000 bucks, no need to worry about working to support it, feed it, or take it out for watering. She won't have to worry about it at all. Just a cock willing and hard when ever needed. Heck, she doesn't even have to talk to it.
A worthy slave, if that's all she needs from it.
Frankly, if I were boxed, I would go nuts from not doing my job and catering to my mate in everyway I could. But hey, different strokes I guess.
Kyst

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 2:58:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

quote:

ORIGINAL: DominaRava

Alright...color me ignorant. What is NLP training?

No light perception, a type of blindness (I had to look that up also :)

NLP is Neuro-Linguistic Programming. It's a form of manipulation using someone's "center". It's frequently used by cults to induce compliance and dependency.

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 3:26:57 PM

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I have my doubts that there is a Mistress involved in any of this. I can't imagine any woman that would want to work all day so she could come home, cook, clean, pay bills, run errands etc... and then tube feed, exercise, and clean up after her slave-in-a-box. It just sounds ridiculous to me.

What does she get out of this arrangement? A sex slave? This seems like a pretty high price to pay for something that usually comes a dime a dozen.

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RE: kept in a box - 3/24/2007 3:31:32 PM

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Dear subtexxxt, Ladies and Gentlemen;

In my mind's eyes I see, the Mistress of yours will have to do nothing shy of being a guard, a baby-sitter, "pet owner," sole provider and have others come into the relationship as to maintain the expectations of the "box" idea. As a Dominant approached with this wish by a submissive would be; "What do I get out of it in return."

Relationships come in all shapes and sizes and the both of you will have to work it out.

The concerns would be forcing the Mistress to be working in service to you, as to be in a box and having to ask others to manage you when she is unable. No matter how much the ideals may be of 24/7 monitoring, it is impossible. People need to work, need to sleep, get out running errands, such as getting food and or supplies.

I would also talk to those who have been prisoner of war, kidnapped and those who have been confined in long periods. In talking with slaves who have been a bit big to be crated/caged over night on a daily basis are having physical problems now. Stress on joints and unable to sleep to discomfort. A lot of times what isn't seen immediately are the long term affects/effects This is where I would hope research was done. Perhaps then due to age and present health and the risks one can come to a better conclusion.

As for me, a slave isn't a possession that is boxed and stored. I want to be able to access them always.

Another question in my mind's eyes would be with such a request by a submissive, as to the 'intent' behind it. Is it due to the lack of desire of doing physical work as to be part of my household and a help to me by being a servant. So many profiles that do have 24/7 chained to dungeon requests and or similiar requests, often 'seemingly' are just looking for a means of someone else towing their freight in exchange of limited returns, such as submission. It then becomes so labor intensive that it would be easier to put the submissive/slave to the curb and hire a maid to clean the house. It becomes a mental, emotional and physical relief then, to have a paid maid to just come in and out. It boils down to people's expectations and being honest in identifying what expectations each person has.

Respectfully submitted for considerations,
Lady Hugs

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