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Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 3:50:19 PM   
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U.N. approves tougher sanctions on Iran By ALEXANDRA OLSON, Associated Press Writer
3 minutes ago

The U.N. Security Council unanimously voted Saturday to impose new sanctions against Iran for its refusal to stop enriching uranium — a move intended to show Tehran that defiance will leave it increasingly isolated.

The moderately tougher sanctions include banning Iranian arms exports, and freezing the assets of 28 people and organizations involved in Iran's nuclear and missile programs.

About a third of those are linked to the Revolutionary Guard, an elite military corps.
The United States is "very pleased by the strength of this resolution" after two years of diplomacy, said R. Nicholas Burns, undersecretary for political affairs at the State Department.

In December, the 15-member Security Council ordered all countries to stop supplying Iran with materials and technology that could contribute to its nuclear and missile programs. It also ordered a freeze on assets of 10 key Iranian companies and 12 individuals related to those programs.
"It's a significant international rebuke to Iran and it's a significant tightening of international pressure on Iran," Burns said of the new sanctions. "We do believe it's going to leave Iran even more isolated than it has been."

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki rejected the sanctions and said Iran had no intention of suspending its enrichment program.
"The world must know — and it does — that even the harshest political and economic sanctions or other threats are far too weak to coerce the Iranian nation to retreat from their legal and legitimate demands," Mottaki told the Security Council after the vote. "Suspension is neither an option nor a solution."

Mottaki made the trip instead of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who claimed he canceled his appearance because the U.S. failed to deliver his visa in time. The U.S. said it had issued the visa promptly.

Raising tensions, Iran detained 15 British sailors and marines Friday in what it said were Iranian territorial waters near Iraq. The British sailors and marines had been on a mission to search for smugglers in Iraqi waters.

The six world powers that drafted the new resolution spent Friday trying to overcome objections from several council members, reflecting concerns that anything short of consensus would weaken efforts to rein in Iran's nuclear defiance.

There were several minor concessions but no changes to the key sanctions agreed upon last week by the United States, China, Russia, Britain, France and Germany.

The new sanctions — already a compromise between the stronger measures favored by the United States and the Europeans and the softer approach advocated by Russian and China — are considered modest. The ban on exports is among the harshest measures, but many of Iran's arms sales may not be affected because they are illicitly sent to militant groups like Lebanon's Hezbollah and Shiite militias in Iraq.
Still, world powers hoped that approving the resolution quickly and unanimously would signal that Iran will face stricter sanctions each time it ignores a Security Council deadline to suspend uranium enrichment, a process that can be used to produce nuclear energy or nuclear weapons.
"This resolution sends an unambiguous signal to the government and people of Iran ... that the path of nuclear proliferation by Iran is not one that the international community can accept," said British Ambassador Emyr Jones Parry.

Iran responded to the first set of sanctions in December by expanding enrichment.

Tehran has offered to provide guarantees that its nuclear program won't be diverted toward weapons, as the U.S. and some of its allies fear.
Iranian leaders kept up their defiant rhetoric in the days leading up to the vote, with Ahmadinejad calling the Security Council illegitimate and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei suggesting Iran would pursue nuclear activities outside international regulations if faced with more sanctions.

The new resolution calls for voluntary restrictions on travel by the individuals subject to sanctions, on arms sales to Iran, and on new financial assistance or loans to the Iranian government.

It asks the International Atomic Energy Agency to report back in 60 days on whether Iran has suspended enrichment and warns Iran could face further measures if it does not. But it also says all sanctions will be suspended if Iran halts enrichment and makes clear that Tehran can still accept a package of economic incentives and political rewards offered last year if it complies with the council's demands.

After the latest resolution met with surprising resistance from several elected Security Council members, a reference was inserted to a past resolution from the IAEA calling for the Middle East to be free of weapons of mass destruction. Indonesia and Qatar had wanted the council to make that appeal outright, but that would have had implications for Israel, a U.S. ally widely believed to possess nuclear weapons, though it has never officially acknowledged it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070324/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear
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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:02:09 PM   
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Okay, All together now - what's the Left's reaction going to be?
 
"WHY THE RUSH TO WAR, GEORGE BUSH?!?!?!"

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...after two years of diplomacy,...

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:03:44 PM   
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Okay, All together now - what's the Left's reaction going to be?
 
"WHY THE RUSH TO WAR, GEORGE BUSH?!?!?!"

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...after two years of diplomacy,...



Sanity, weren't you saying on a thread down the corridor that you have no faith in the United Nations....why are you suddenly placing store in their decisions?


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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:06:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Okay, All together now - what's the Left's reaction going to be?
 
"WHY THE RUSH TO WAR, GEORGE BUSH?!?!?!"

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611
...after two years of diplomacy,...



Sanity, weren't you saying on a thread down the corridor that you have no faith in the United Nations....why are you suddenly placing store in their decisions?



Because the United Nations has made it ok for Monkeyboy and Sanity's dreams of global hegemony and religious genocide to hopefully come true.

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:13:51 PM   
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quote:

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:19:52 PM   
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That attack seems awfully low, and careless. Have you been drinking?

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Because the United Nations has made it ok for Monkeyboy and Sanity's dreams of global hegemony and religious genocide to hopefully come true.

Sinergy

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:20:46 PM   
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The United Nations have made a ruling, fair enough. I have no problem with them. My only reservation is that German, French and British governments drafted the initial policy (a year ago). I don't trust the British government, or the French government. I'm hoping the German government have a few more scruples about them and they're not just playing games here.

Ultimately though, as per usual, sanctions will starve those at the bottom end of the pecking order in Iran....not the regime.

Thing here Sinergy, it's chaos - all these governments planning on sanctions and war - they should involve their families in some of these sanctions and war.

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:28:55 PM   
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According to the report, all they're doing is banning Iranian arms exports, and freezing the assets of 28 people and organizations involved in Iran's nuclear and missile programs.

How will that hurt the average Iranian?

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Ultimately though, as per usual, sanctions will starve those at the bottom end of the pecking order in Iran....not the regime.

Thing here Sinergy, it's chaos - all these governments planning on sanctions and war - they should involve their families in some of these sanctions and war.

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:31:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Okay, All together now - what's the Left's reaction going to be?
 
"WHY THE RUSH TO WAR, GEORGE BUSH?!?!?!"

quote:

ORIGINAL: cyberdude611
...after two years of diplomacy,...



Sanity, weren't you saying on a thread down the corridor that you have no faith in the United Nations....why are you suddenly placing store in their decisions?



Because the United Nations has made it ok for Monkeyboy and Sanity's dreams of global hegemony and religious genocide to hopefully come true.

Sinergy

Religious genocide?? like the followers of that peaceful religion Islam..
The End of Protected Status for Christians and Jews
In recent years, radical Islamic scholars have renounced the privileges that Christians and Jews had enjoyed under Islamic rule and denied their status as ahl al-dhimma, accusing them of crimes against Islam and deviation of faith in God by attributing associates to God. This opened the way to justifying mass killing of Christians and Jews under the flag of jihad for the sake of Allah.
The roots of radical Islam's denial of protected status for Christians may be found in the long-standing, accumulated hatred of the U.S. and other Western countries as leaders of the Christian world. The U.S. is viewed as a global infidel force menacing Islam with its ideology, social and economic values, and hostile policy, seen in terms of a modern Crusader war against Islam. Abd al-Aziz al-Jarbou', a prominent radical Saudi scholar, lashed out at the U.S. in his book The Foundations of the Legality of the Destruction That Befell America, presenting a thesis that was publicly lauded by many Saudi scholars, headed by Hamud bin Uqla al-Shuaibi and Ali al-Khudeir. Describing the U.S. as "the source of evil, moral corruption, oppression, despotism, and aggression," al-Jarbou' explained that the U.S. "spreads abomination and corruption in the world," "is the biggest source heretical movies," "has more sex channels and wine and cigarette companies than any other country," "wages war against Allah's religion...and strives to impose its heresy and values out of arrogance and a desire to dominate." "Even Satan does not behave like America does," he wrote.56
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp508.htm
way more info at this site on islams position
There is an arabic expression that translates to this equivalent..
   first we kill the one that worship on saturday,,, then we kill the       ones that worship on sunday

Now how about some proof that the US or its allies endorse or promote religious genocide.

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:34:53 PM   
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Sanity, weren't you saying on a thread down the corridor that you have no faith in the United Nations....


No, I wasn't. You are confusing me with someone else.

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why are you suddenly placing store in their decisions?


Nothing I have said indicates that I do, and I do not.

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:37:45 PM   
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Now how about some proof that the US or its allies endorse or promote religious genocide.

 

 
Or that I ever have.

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:40:49 PM   
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According to the report, all they're doing is banning Iranian arms exports, and freezing the assets of 28 people and organizations involved in Iran's nuclear and missile programs.

How will that hurt the average Iranian?



I didn't say these particular sanctions would.

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:45:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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Now how about some proof that the US or its allies endorse or promote religious genocide.

 

 
Or that I ever have.

True, I left you out. But as a fellow rightwinger I knew that you had been accused of worse. I mean after all, if your on the right you get accused of far worse ( I mean didnt you personally kill someone today, or forget to have that nazi uniform cleaned? )
Dont let the ( insert un moderated comment here ) get you down..


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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:53:23 PM   
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Gawd... according to all of the reports, I'm hhhorrible. Now I'm a genocidal maniac, along with some imaginary "Monkey boy" creature???

Maybe I do these things in my sleep. I thought I'd put such problems behind me when I swore off the Bacardi 151

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True, I left you out. But as a fellow rightwinger I knew that you had been accused of worse. I mean after all, if your on the right you get accused of far worse ( I mean didnt you personally kill someone today, or forget to have that nazi uniform cleaned? )
Dont let the ( insert un moderated comment here ) get you down..



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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 4:54:00 PM   
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maybe they have been threatened with invasion.  since in 2002 they claimed that they had no weapons program.   Wonder what changed that tune?

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 5:03:17 PM   
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For me, the problem with the UN/Bush angle was the USs unilateral action. Since they couldn't GET the UN to sanction attacks against Hussein, they had to cobb up that phony "Coalition of The Willing", and go on in without the UN.




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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 5:07:16 PM   
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maybe they have been threatened with invasion. since in 2002 they claimed that they had no weapons program. Wonder what changed that tune?


Enrichment is not weapons development. I know it's hard to tell the difference, with all the propaganda about, but it's important.

And you know what? Perhaps it's at this point, given the United States unprovoked attack against Iraq, and North Korea's development of Nuclear Weapons with Pakistan's assistance, it's in the Iranian's national interest TO develop nuclear weapons.

And if Israel has any complaints, let them come clean about their arsenal first.



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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 5:09:55 PM   
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/armstrade/story/0,,1773106,00.html
Summary: The US paid to have a couple of hundred thousand Kalashnikovs shipped into Iraq by various indirect  routes and nobody seems to know how they entered the country, or who got them.

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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 5:41:19 PM   
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That attack seems awfully low, and careless. Have you been drinking?

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Because the United Nations has made it ok for Monkeyboy and Sanity's dreams of global hegemony and religious genocide to hopefully come true.

Sinergy



Sanity,

It upsets you when I point out that you, many on the religious right, and Monkeyboy, all seem to have the same idea in mind about what to do about muslims?

What sticks in my mind when I hear them talk or read your posts is a complete lack of erudition about how to actually accomplish anything.  The rationale presented seems to be something composed by an Iraq war version of the Dilbert Mission Statement Generator.

Sinergy

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edited to add an e.

< Message edited by Sinergy -- 3/24/2007 5:55:58 PM >


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RE: Security Council Approved Iran Sanctions - 3/24/2007 6:05:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

That attack seems awfully low, and careless. Have you been drinking?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Because the United Nations has made it ok for Monkeyboy and Sanity's dreams of global hegemony and religious genocide to hopefully come true.

Sinergy



Sanity,

It upsets you when I point out that you, many on the religious right, and Monkeyboy, all seem to have the same idea in mind about what to do about muslims?

What sticks in my mind when I hear them talk or read your posts is a complete lack of erudition about how to actually accomplish anything.  The rationale presented seems to be something composed by an Iraq war version of the Dilbert Mission Statement Generator.

Sinergy

p.s. www.dilbert.com

edited to add an e.


Still no proof cited as to a US or allied policy of religious genocide I see.. Just more name calling.. Standard protocol

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