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An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:08:15 AM   
WolfSpirit862


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Status: offline 		I haven't been at this site for too long, but it seems to me that alot of "masters" here must be very insecure. I see alot of subs that have blurbs along the lines of, 'I can play or talk to girls, but my master doesn't allow me to talk to men.' Such comments make me wonder... why is that? Is this "master" afraid that the sub will find someone better? Someone more capable? Stronger?  How can a person call themself a Master with so little confidence?

What does that tell us about the condition of the "master" in the first place? If he is so afraid that he will be replaced, then why doesn't he work to improve himself instead of hiding his sub away in fear they might find someone better? Why doesn't he build himself to be stronger? Why is it that he has no faith, no confidence? Neither in himself, nor the loyalty of his sub... I read these things and laugh. What nonsense.

Anyone at all may speak to my slave. She may converse to whomever she choose. I know who I am, and I know where her loyalty is.

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:13:10 AM   
FukinTroll


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Suk muh cok!
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And loads of other crap like that you will start to understand.

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:13:24 AM   
hisannabelle


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From: Tallahassee, FL, USA
Status: offline 		this is one of my concerns also, and there was a recent thread (about "sub stealing") that brought up a similar situation.

personally, i am mostly here for enrichment. if he doesn't trust me not to run off with the next dominant that comes along by now, well, we got bigger problems than that. ;)


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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:20:40 AM   
juliaoceania


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quote:

I haven't been at this site for too long, but it seems to me that alot of "masters" here must be very insecure. I see alot of subs that have blurbs along the lines of, 'I can play or talk to girls, but my master doesn't allow me to talk to men.' Such comments make me wonder... why is that? Is this "master" afraid that the sub will find someone better? Someone more capable? Stronger?  How can a person call themself a Master with so little confidence?

 
There could be many reasons, insecurity may just be one of them.
 
On my profile I have asked that people who wish to contact me about my relationship contact him instead. He did not order it, rather I prefer this because he wants me to answer all of them, and I have no desire to repeatedly type"Please refer that question to my Daddy" over and over again.
 
I think that there are lots of reasons why a dominant would not want other dominants emailing their submissive... one of them is a respect issue. It is considered disrespectful in some people's eyes for unknown dominants to approach attached submissives. My question is why don't dominant people email the owner of a submissive before emailing her? If dominants that post on this board want to ask me a question about my forum posts, that is one thing, I gladly email back. If a dominant that does not read the forum emails me, he is trolling a submissive that is attached, I have no desire to email him back. In fact I think such types are cretins.

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:22:03 AM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

When her c-mail pile up with...

Suk muh cok!
On u neez!
Send puzzy shotz!
I'll be in ur town tomorrow... I expect you to cum to my hotel.

And loads of other crap like that you will start to understand.


exactly

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:24:31 AM   
FukinTroll


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

exactly


Got those letters from me I see. Where is my friggen replies you fakey fakerton?

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:25:37 AM   
MrDiscipline44


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Status: offline 		One could say that having to put down other 'masters' because of there actions would make you as insecure as they seem to be. Tit for tat, as it were.

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:34:07 AM   
sweetnurseBBW


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From: North Carolina
Status: offline 		Unless you personally know the person I wouldn't make assumptions. It just makes you very unpopular. People have their own preferences and needs. I find that what most put in their profile isn't true at all.  So learn and grow and be careful .

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:35:27 AM   
SirKinkster


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Status: offline 		It is more about respect for us.... proper protocol..... she is my property.... you don't touch another mans stuff without asking...... I mean would you walk up and sit on my harley too..... both would have a negative response..... being respectfull of others values is common courtousy ...... I don't think any of the subs profiles that say that are weak I think you just may not understand the dynamic of there relationship.....

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:36:35 AM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		He owns me; I do not own him.  He keeps me untouched and pristine for him, as he prefers.  Unless he chooses for another to touch me, which he has done.  He also wants my focus on him, not on others, as I best serve him and am happiest that way.  It keeps things clear and simple for me, and I like that.  Insecurity does not come into play at all.  While he would prefer I submit to him, he would not think twice about letting me go if I prefer to be elsewhere. 

He would eventually like another slave to join us, and talks to/works with others for the purpose of finding a good fit.  He is not opposed to finding a suitable male submissve, also, although his use would be different than a female's.  I joined my Master's life.  He made these thing clear from the start when I did, so I could make an informed decision.   

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:36:58 AM   
sambamanslilgirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

When her c-mail pile up with...

Suk muh cok!
On u neez!
Send puzzy shotz!
I'll be in ur town tomorrow... I expect you to cum to my hotel.

And loads of other crap like that you will start to understand.


that and "i want to fuck your black pussy with your Daddy" prompted me not only to delete my original collarme account but start a new one with part of his name attached to mine. in my profile, i've stated i'm collared asking others to respect our relationship. if they want something more than 'just friends' with me - need to send a note to Daddy.


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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:41:10 AM   
raevnn


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Status: offline 		It's another thing an owner controls; it's another liberty removed. Some people perfer, want, enjoy, need this sort of thing.

It doesn't mean a person is necessarily insecure.

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:45:16 AM   
AquaticSub


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quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

When her c-mail pile up with...

Suk muh cok!
On u neez!
Send puzzy shotz!
I'll be in ur town tomorrow... I expect you to cum to my hotel.

And loads of other crap like that you will start to understand.


We still let anyone who wants to contact me. For now. I'm starting to seriously consider adding a tagline that if you are male and want to talk about sex you have to get Valyraen's permission first.

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:45:21 AM   
kyraofMists


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKinkster

It is more about respect for us.... proper protocol..... she is my property.... you don't touch another mans stuff without asking...... I mean would you walk up and sit on my harley too..... both would have a negative response..... being respectfull of others values is common courtousy ...... I don't think any of the subs profiles that say that are weak I think you just may not understand the dynamic of there relationship.....


This is very similar to our views.  Mine and alandra's profiles both ask people to contact him first for permission to email us.  It cuts down on the junk emails that we get, it lets us know who actually took the time to read our profiles and it lets us know who is willing to show respect for our relationship.  I have started several rewarding email exchanges with people who have followed this request.

Knight's kyra

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 8:48:41 AM   
FukinTroll


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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

We still let anyone who wants to contact me. For now. I'm starting to seriously consider adding a tagline that if you are male and want to talk about sex you have to get Valyraen's permission first.


What about my permission you lil strumpet?

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 9:15:52 AM   
MstrssPassion


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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

We still let anyone who wants to contact me. For now. I'm starting to seriously consider adding a tagline that if you are male and want to talk about sex you have to get Valyraen's permission first.


Doesn't really matter what you put on your profile... most don't read it anyway. Doesn't really how you list yourself (role) I still get emails from "dominants" who explain to me how well I'd be treated as their submissive. This isn't the case of the dreaded "you haven't met the right master yet" BS... it is a simple case of having female profile, they obviously didn't even take time to read my profile name much less anything else I had to say within my profile.

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 9:22:06 AM   
swtrayn


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ORIGINAL: WolfSpirit862

Iwhy is that? Is this "master" afraid that the sub will find someone better? Someone more capable? Stronger?  How can a person call themself a Master with so little confidence?

What does that tell us about the condition of the "master" in the first place? If he is so afraid that he will be replaced, then why doesn't he work to improve himself instead of hiding his sub away in fear they might find someone better? Why doesn't he build himself to be stronger? Why is it that he has no faith, no confidence? Neither in himself, nor the loyalty of his sub... I read these things and laugh. What nonsense.



Many Tops/Masters/Mistresses  have their own reasons for not allowing their subs/slaves to talk to whoever, and assuming it is because they are weak or that they have trust issues or something the Top/Master/Mistress is lacking just doesn't seem right.  If it is what Him/Her decides that is what is best for them, I don't see why it is automaticly seen as a fault or a failure of some kind on the part of the Top/Master/Mistress.

just my two cents.

rayn

*edited because I don't know how to type* LOL fixed errors.

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 9:28:02 AM   
AquaticSub


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quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

We still let anyone who wants to contact me. For now. I'm starting to seriously consider adding a tagline that if you are male and want to talk about sex you have to get Valyraen's permission first.


What about my permission you lil strumpet?


You will be the second filter. After they talk to Valyraen, they have talk to you!

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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 9:34:30 AM   
FukinTroll


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RE: An observation from a newcomer... - 3/25/2007 9:38:34 AM   
zindyslave


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Status: offline 		I choose to put in my profile for any male to contact my Master before contacting me. I have had cases of submissive males contacting me and ended up wanting to know what my Master does to me or something of that sort and I would rather not deal with that. So far no one has contacted him wanting to contact me and they have left me alone also. It isn't that he is insecure or anything of the sort it is I wish to make friends with people that doesn't require talking about sex everytime we talk and that I would rather not have to tell Dom's that I am not interested and to leave me alone which usually doesn't work. So I guess people read my profile or maybe I am just not interesting enough for them. Doesn't really matter to me tho..

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