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Tribute? - 4/10/2005 7:23:30 PM

MasterzKitten

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As i have been browsing profile, i come across many Dommes' profiles who are in search of a sub/slave and ask for/demand that when they message them, they must pay Her tribute. i have absolutely no idea what entails, or i do but have never had it called such.
i would be greatly thankful it if Someone would be so kind as to educate me on this subject.

Many thanks~

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RE: Tribute? - 4/10/2005 8:01:23 PM

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A tribute is usually a gift or money given to someone, think of it as worshippers paying tribute to their gods- either for flattery, bribery, or actual deference.

It's most commonly associated with female dominants, however I think male dominants ask for the same thing just not in blatant physical gift form, they tend to ask for things like the women to wear certain clothes and things like that.

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RE: Tribute? - 4/11/2005 1:33:12 AM

GoddessDustyGold

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Well, this has been coming up so much lately, I guess it is time for Me to get off My little ass and start looking at all these profiles that are demanding tribute for an email...
BTW, this is a very sincere post. I honestly don't browse the profiles, but I do often look at the ones of people who post on the message boards regularly. I really didn't know this was getting so rampant! Guess I better start doing more homework!

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RE: Tribute? - 4/11/2005 8:06:05 AM

Oumae

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

Well, this has been coming up so much lately, I guess it is time for Me to get off My little ass and start looking at all these profiles that are demanding tribute for an email...
BTW, this is a very sincere post. I honestly don't browse the profiles, but I do often look at the ones of people who post on the message boards regularly. I really didn't know this was getting so rampant! Guess I better start doing more homework!

I don't browse profiles either but also look at some of the ones who post and havent seen too many asking for tributes. Maybe they are too busy sorting the tributes to post! ( said tongue in cheek)

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RE: Tribute? - 4/11/2005 9:28:10 AM

ShiftedJewel

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quote:

A tribute is usually a gift or money given to someone, think of it as worshippers paying tribute to their gods- either for flattery, bribery, or actual deference.

I really like the way you put that!

Jewel

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RE: Tribute? - 4/11/2005 9:39:57 AM

onceburned

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Maybe they are too busy sorting the tributes to post!

LOL

I admit the emotions of some subs regarding tribute surprises me. I simply haven't noticed a lot of tribute demands. But after thinking about it, I realized that I look for older dommes (40+) and perhaps they are not the ones involved.

In doing searches on behalf of newcomers to Collarme I have noticed that dommes in the 18-24 age range do seem to have a higher likelihood to ask for tribute. I am guessing this is age bracket that MasterzKitten was looking at since she is of that age.

My sense of many of these younger dommes is that they were 'trying on' the role. Perhaps they were experienced, perhaps not. But I think they were testing the water to see what they could get out of the community.

Such behavior is not the noblest path they could take, but it is understandable considering their age. Of course, I may be totally wrong. <shrug> But to demand tribute simply to message someone seems very much a newbie-ish behavior.

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RE: Tribute? - 4/11/2005 10:28:32 AM

iamdownonmyknees

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I remember suspecting some women were using CollarMe’s profiles to find men who will pay for email domination. I respect sex workers but can’t help but feel anyone who might be doing that is diminishing the value of CollarMe’s profiles. CollarMe is the only viable alternative to Alt.com in my neck of the woods. And I fear the women might be contributed to the distorted image of F/m relationships you often find on the web.

Richard

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RE: Tribute? - 4/11/2005 12:34:24 PM

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If you click on *Search*, than type Tribute, you'll find more info on this than you probably want. M

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RE: Tribute? - 4/11/2005 1:34:19 PM

MasterzKitten

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Thank You all very much for replying.
i assumed that is what it is, but i've learned its not always a good thing to just assume i'm correct. its so nice to be able to post and ask my questions without feeling like a totally ignorant girl, so i thank E/everyone that is so nice when answering my many questions

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RE: Tribute? - 4/11/2005 4:45:20 PM

MsMacComb

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Give your money to a legit charity.

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RE: Tribute? - 4/11/2005 4:54:03 PM

GoddessDustyGold

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterzKitten

Thank You all very much for replying.
i assumed that is what it is, but i've learned its not always a good thing to just assume i'm correct. its so nice to be able to post and ask my questions without feeling like a totally ignorant girl, so i thank E/everyone that is so nice when answering my many questions

you are most welcome, MasterzKitten, and although sometimes W/we can get out of line when some really flaming and irritating topics are posted, I do think you will find this a very open and warm community.
Welcome to the boards!

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RE: Tribute? - 4/12/2005 5:08:49 AM

LadyAngelika

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quote:

ORIGINAL: onceburned

quote:

Maybe they are too busy sorting the tributes to post!

LOL

I admit the emotions of some subs regarding tribute surprises me. I simply haven't noticed a lot of tribute demands. But after thinking about it, I realized that I look for older dommes (40+) and perhaps they are not the ones involved.

In doing searches on behalf of newcomers to Collarme I have noticed that dommes in the 18-24 age range do seem to have a higher likelihood to ask for tribute. I am guessing this is age bracket that MasterzKitten was looking at since she is of that age.

My sense of many of these younger dommes is that they were 'trying on' the role. Perhaps they were experienced, perhaps not. But I think they were testing the water to see what they could get out of the community.

Such behavior is not the noblest path they could take, but it is understandable considering their age. Of course, I may be totally wrong. <shrug> But to demand tribute simply to message someone seems very much a newbie-ish behavior.

I don't think it's an age thing. I think it's essentially a question of class and integrity. I have never, ever asked for, hinted about or even remotely suggested that a man give me a tribute. I have gotten many. Mostly it's flowers, perfume, etc. They mean so much more because the thought came from them.

- LA

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RE: Tribute? - 4/12/2005 5:11:51 AM

LadyAngelika

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quote:

ORIGINAL: iamdownonmyknees

I remember suspecting some women were using CollarMe’s profiles to find men who will pay for email domination. I respect sex workers but can’t help but feel anyone who might be doing that is diminishing the value of CollarMe’s profiles. CollarMe is the only viable alternative to Alt.com in my neck of the woods. And I fear the women might be contributed to the distorted image of F/m relationships you often find on the web.

Richard

I think that as long as they are being upfront and honest that they are looking for money in exchange for a service, then no problem. As for diminishing value, I don't think so. This is a site for people who have deviant sexual behaviours-- and I say that in the best way possible ;). Let's not start nitpicking about which deviant behaviours are acceptable and which aren't.

- LA

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RE: Tribute? - 4/12/2005 5:46:01 AM

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Just to add boy's two cents (if boys thoughts are worth that much lol) many NOT all but many of these Domme's who ask for tributes for online domination or even pictures are pushing Their luck to see how much They can make in monetary value of what are percived as desperate male subs/slaves who some Females feel will pay anything to recieve some Domination.

But that leads boy to question whether those subs/slaves and Domme's are for real or simply fantasy because it seems that the Domme's asking for tributes are mostly under 30, and to put it bluntly beatufial, so by asking for tributes these Domme's know that the men out there looking for a quick fix over the net of "spank yourself" etc will pay to be told to do so by such a good looking lady...

However, boy does feel that Domme's do deserve tributes but they shouldnt have to ask for them, a Domme should be tributed by Her sub/slave as much as possible but not just in monetary form but in other ways such as building websites etc.

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RE: Tribute? - 4/12/2005 5:56:11 AM

EmeraldSlave2

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I don't see anything bad or wrong in requiring tribute as long as the person is completely up front about it and completely follows through with it.

What's the difference between a female dom saying "If you want me to scene with you, you must mow my lawn" and a male dom saying "If you want me to scene with you, you must not orgasm for a week?"

The sub is there to be used by the dom however the dom sees fit- if they want to be used as an ATM, more power to them.

I'm not saying all doms who ask for tribute are good and angelic- male doms can be just as much wankers as fem doms and not follow through with their promises and take advantage in an unhealthy way, but simply setting up the rules is not bad or wrong or unethical IMO.

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RE: Tribute? - 4/12/2005 5:59:06 AM

spoiltboy

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quote:

What's the difference between a female dom saying "If you want me to scene with you, you must mow my lawn" and a male dom saying "If you want me to scene with you, you must not orgasm for a week?"

thats what boy was trying to get...all be it not very clearly granted, but boy just feel's Domme's who ask for cash up front before even sending pictures or messenger id's are simply in this for the money...boy would happily mow a lawn for a scene but not pay huge amounts of money for a picture (which may be fake) and a messenger id!

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RE: Tribute? - 4/12/2005 11:10:45 AM

rwmbk

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ORIGINAL: MsMacComb

Give your money to a legit charity.

At least that's tax deductable.

That's the problem with a purely online relationship. It's really hard to do things for a female dom, like chores, ect. So it ends up financial tribute is really all one can do. Personally I get nothing out of sending money, ( thats probably why I hate paying bills), taking someone shopping is much more enjoyable for example.

I tend to stay away from Domme's requiring tribute up front as I figure they are just trying to fund their way though college or are in some other finanical situation and really don't have sincere interest in the lifestyle.

I believe in female supremacy and spoiling a woman but they also need ethics. Holding a job and being able to manage your own money are kind of important... Just my 2 cents.

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RE: Tribute? - 4/12/2005 1:39:28 PM

AAkasha

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If a femdom is soliciting a tribute as some sort of payment in exchange for energy put into online domination, as long as that is clearly stated and the boundaries are agreed upon, I don't think it's taking advantage of any submissives.

To those submissives that send money or tributes to a femdom on a personal site based on only a picture and a profile or email, how can he be sure the photo is really her? How can he be sure she is really a woman, and not just a man in a profit making scheme?

On the other hand, I can see how requiring a tribute immediately weeds out the countless subs that really are looking for nothing other than their own interests. Meaning, if it takes *any* effort on their end (be it monetary, or time, or anything) they walk away. These men are looking to fulfill a fantasy where a main point is that they do not have to do anything. They believe submission = sit back and be stimulated-- hey, she's in charge! The moment it requires any investment of *any* kind, he will move on to the next hopeful freebie.

It would be interesting if there were a way femdoms could have potential subs provide whatever the reasonable tribute they wanted, with the understanding that the tribute would be refunded if the submissive made due effort on his end before one or the other determined a connection was there. I don't know; I'm not in the market for a "new slave" per se.

But, I have had online domination relationships with submissives for many years, both that required payment, and that were "free". I can tell you there is a very dramatic difference between the quality, effort and sincerity of those submissives that made an investment up front vs. those that were along for a free ride. It's almost amazing to see the difference. In the "free" pile it is extremely rare I would say, "Damn, he's a submissive I think I'd consider personally for a lot more than just email if I were looking..." (they tend to be lazy, write short emails, be demanding, whine, complain) -- vs. those that had to pay for their training -- they are more responsive, more interested in the dynamic of the relationship, put effort into their emails and sincerely want to make a good impression.

So is that because they had to pay for it and they want get "more" out of it? No, I think it's because anyone serious about experiencing a taste of it for real is more willing to make some sort of commitment (even financial) up front. The others are just looking to get "something for nothing" -- with the occassional diamond in the rough who is tossed in there.

The problem in all of this becomes simple: if a femdom wanted to do some sort of online training -- free -- with the right man -- she has to go through the work of weeding out a lot of those who are looking for "something for nothing."

Akasha

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RE: Tribute? - 4/12/2005 2:46:57 PM

nella

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To some, tribute is a real fetish, somthing they get their kicks from, to others it is a way to make a quik buck. I see nothing wrong whit demanding it, as long as the Dominant is up front aboute it.

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RE: Tribute? - 4/12/2005 10:56:36 PM

ProScatman

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The only Dommes' I notice asking for tribute are the Pro Dommes'. The last one I asked about it replied that from seldom to never does someone come to Her asking what they could do to please Her? And the fact that some get burned out from 'Lack of Devotion"!

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ORIGINAL: nella

To some, tribute is a real fetish, somthing they get their kicks from, to others it is a way to make a quik buck. I see nothing wrong whit demanding it, as long as the Dominant is up front aboute it.

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