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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 12:46:42 PM

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i totally agree with you on the statement *I fell a great sense of pitty for anyone who has low enough self esteem to call this "man" "master". *

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 12:47:20 PM

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Hahahaha

Fuck you.

<begin sarcasm>
Having said, I'm both sub and Domme, (seeking a Dom/Top.) and spend a great deal of time studying technique, safety etc, therefore, I should clearly change my name to MistressLadyUpMyselfEmpressArseholeBitch and demand clear doormatness from every sub on this site...
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Seriously...

Many Doms haven't earned their title at all, they've simply taken it on to signify that they're a Dom/me.

From a Domme point of view- Where's the power exchange in dominating a doormat? If someone is willing to submit to everyone, what makes you think their submission to you is in the slightest bit special?

From a sub point of view, you need to look out for your own interests and safety. Even for the subbiest of subs, there's no reason a Dom/me shouldn't need to earn respect before their sub will give any degree of submission. The most loyal subs tend to be those who don't give their submission easily.

Domming is hard work and responsibility as well as fun, if you can't be arsed to take that on, you won't have much luck building a good D/s relationship with anyone.

You sound as though you think BDSM orientations are "ranks" rather than orientations, with the Doms at the top, the Subs below them, and the Switches as "pretend BDSMers". Orientations are simply that, in the same way as we are all straight, gay, bi, unsure, or other...

I have some experience but consider myself a novice Domme, and a moderately experienced sub/bottom. Curb your ego, then come and jump on the learning bandwagon. You have a lot of learning to do... !

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 1:04:30 PM

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unfortunitly Yahoo chat rooms and its ilk have brought about this wonderful new genre of * instant Dom's * I am far from being an *old guard * Dominant . I have neither the expereince nor the background that some of My more trusted Real Life friends have . By their standards and history I am relatively new to BDSM . However that has never encouraged Me to do anything but uphold what I have been taught and what i have learned.

Stella has made the statement that
*Dominants should remember that they earn the respect only from the subs they have been in contact with - everybody else needs to be convinced. This is, as many people will find, the exact same situation that submissive`s find themselves in.*
this I agree with completely aside from one little addition Ill make . its not only up to each individual dominant or submissive to earn the respect and trust of their opposite but also up to each person to earn the respect and trust of their for want of a better word , peers . a submissive still has to earn the respect of other submissive`s . and trust me online and in real life , should a submissive be perceived as less than what he or she claims her brother and sister subs are not far from dealing with it . this seems to be because the reputation of all submissive`s lies on each one being honest and earning the respect of others

also true in the case of Dominants though the intervention is sometimes less subtle . for a group to come across a dominant who they feel may be less than they appear to be or worse still dangerous to the submissive`s who fall into that groups area of interest , well I have had the pleasure of seeing a group bound by the common goal of protecting those who trust them from idiots fools and pretenders .

our friend Mr OP is facing the same situation on a very different level. in the beginning the submissive`s effortlessly and valiantly dealt with him to the point where i doubt we`ll be seeing him post anything on this particular topic again. but of course the Dominants were quite happy to add their two cents for gigglesworth

Me Ive alternated between wise ass cracks , comments about the loss of my vanilla cone * sobs uncontrollably at the loss * and little pseudo intellectual rants like this one . but in the end all i can really add is this

despite the multitude of University graduate courses on BDSM * snickers * books websites and individual trainers out there , there are no hard and fast rules for BDSM . each relationship is the product of a compromise between two people , a dominant and a submissive . so to sit there and lecture rant or comment on the behavior of any number of submissive`s who aren't yours
seems to Me to be ... well lets just say the last time i saw someone do something that dumb bill clinton was in office

a man may forget his anniversary , he may even forget where he parked his car . but no man on this planet ever forgets a blow job

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 1:28:09 PM

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This thread was good for a laugh.

But to jump in on the discussion about 7 pages too late (god i can't believe i was doing something so wasteful as sleeping when the OP started this thread. I guess that'll teach me).

I don't call any Tom, Dick, and Harry who calls HIMSELF dominant, Sir. You have to earn that title.

And just like everyone else has said, just because you slap the title Sir, or Master in front of your name doesn't make you one.

As far as the whole respect, it's the dominant's RIGHT to be called Sir, that's a huge load of BS. Respect is earned, not given out willy nilly.

I'm wondering what kind of responses the OP expected......

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 2:05:16 PM

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I don't know what world you live in, but in mine I wouldn't think of demanding anyone call me by a "title". Subs do use Miss and Ma'am but not because it's a requirement. No one deserves or has the right to command another person call them anything in particular. Until such time as you earn a sub's respect you are no different than the average Joe on the street.

I thought your post was ridiculous and then I read your profile where you have the audacity to state the second girl would have to earn her food by service to her master. Seems you want to take on the role of God too (another new title you will demand be used?). Grow up little one, you have a very long way to go in this lifestyle before anyone is going to take you seriously. I pity anyone who is taken into your service, you don't want a doormat, you want someone with half a brain cell.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 3:37:10 PM

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7 pages in just under 9 hours....impressive. If I only had the patience to read it tonight lol. But I've seen enough posts from disgruntled "masters" to get the idea. To the OP's example of loving sunlight and hiding under a rock. I love paintball but that doesn't mean I walk down the street randomly shooting people with the paintball gun. There's a time and place for everything. I have yet to meet a sub or slave with absolutley no opinion about how they should be treated and I hope I never do.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 3:39:59 PM

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*giggling* Thank you everyone, I needed this.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 3:40:13 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: litleone8620

I'm wondering what kind of responses the OP expected......

he was expecting everyone to agree with his arrogant post however he got the hell out of Dodge just before the fun began

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 3:48:12 PM

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Verrrry nice. Like your beads?

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 3:50:45 PM

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hi, Jerry, i would like to flash my DDs to Steve for beads! *lifts shirt and flashes*

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 3:55:53 PM

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I don't think the OP realizes that you are all mine does he?

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 3:58:36 PM

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Well then Troll, ho can you tolerate having so many fake subies that don't know their places. The shame of it....get them under control and stop all of their pesky free thoughts.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 3:59:54 PM

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Hydro you ever have a horse eat grain out of the palm of your hand?

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 4:00:39 PM

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Mmmmmmm Trollswats............drifts off into dreaminess.......lol

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 4:01:24 PM

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Um, yes...are you calling them all horses? As I recall the horse bit me.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 4:04:23 PM

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Not to mention that many of us who are happily collared have orders not to submit to any 'call me dom' who comes along. I'd rather be rude to the op in his opinion by not calling him sir, then upset The Man by going breaking his rules for no better reason than some online twit commands me to.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 4:05:19 PM

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Nope. However if you recall how that horse ate grain from your hand you will understand some of the (I am going to try to say this without breaking into a song and dance) Pussy Control!!!!!

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Anyway.... you get the idea. With fuk'n like that hell yes let them run amok.

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 4:14:14 PM

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(waves at the Troll passing by)

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 4:14:36 PM

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I don't think the OP realizes that you are all mine does he?

damn i forgot i was collared by you, FT *on knees* forgive me, Sir

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RE: subs who don't know their place - 3/26/2007 4:18:33 PM

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Collar? Hell I don't need to use a collar when I have the....

Slurp!

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