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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/27/2007 3:21:57 PM

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/27/2007 3:49:41 PM

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Well godammit!!!!!! I ain't posted nary a fuckin' thing on this thread, so CAN I HAVE HIS DESSERT?

PLEASE?

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/27/2007 4:05:24 PM

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I think alot of this comes down to where people think their rights end and another person's rights begin. I feel if it is a public setting, then the public may comment as they choose to. It was a choice to have the episode in public so there may be consequences. If it is in another person's house or a more private setting then I personally handle it as I see fit, which may include ignoring it. There are many things in such a hypothetical, that in reality are not there, including maybe the tempo of any music being played. The circumstance will usually dictate how I react. Some may ask "why do you think you have a right to do that?" My answer will be seen as arrogant, but I have the right because I claim it. I also will acceptable any responsibility and consequences that come with my actions. It all comes down to circumstance and a judgement call at the time.

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/27/2007 5:38:42 PM

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I would simply look at the Dom and shout "Hey Carl, it looks like Jill is acting like quite a cunt tonight...Please pass the butter."

Oh hell, I snorted iced tea up my nose and just about choked!!

Domiguy, you have too much time on your hands!

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/27/2007 7:13:47 PM

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I would simply look at the Dom and shout "Hey Carl, it looks like Jill is acting like quite a cunt tonight...Please pass the butter."

Oh hell, I snorted iced tea up my nose and just about choked!!

Domiguy, you have too much time on your hands!

I wonder if there would be enough of an audience for a BDSM stand-up comic

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/27/2007 9:40:14 PM

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(Domiguy taps microphone)....I know your out there I can hear your welts rising.....I haven't seen so many fat subs since I was last at Quiznos...Is this thing on?

Looking at Puellas avatar I think she might need to ease up on the breath play...(single rim shot...Crowd stirs uneasily) Someone in the back of the CM theater shouts out..."YOU SUCK!".....(Domiguy goes into a tirade of profanity and disparaging comments directed towards all of the Nigerian subs in the front row...And storms off the stage)

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 5:47:49 AM

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DG,

your forgot to tell them how much more money you make than the Nigerian subs ;)

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 5:53:59 AM

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And, for the sake of being clear - what behaviors are you refering to? Simple sass or causing a scene?

That's what I'd like to know. I've never been to a BDSM function. I'd *like* to believe that I can tell the difference between playful sass and a real public squabble, but one never knows.

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 5:59:00 AM

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And, for the sake of being clear - what behaviors are you refering to? Simple sass or causing a scene?

That's what I'd like to know. I've never been to a BDSM function. I'd *like* to believe that I can tell the difference between playful sass and a real public squabble, but one never knows.

I think the original post was clear enough and said:

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How would one handle a situation of a slave or submissive repeatedly challenging the authority of his/her Owner in a group setting with other M/s couples around?

I'm guessing if the op meant playful sassing, she would have said that, so I'm not sure I understand the confusion.

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 6:13:40 AM

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I'm guessing if the op meant playful sassing, she would have said that, so I'm not sure I understand the confusion.

C~

It was an offhand comment from my own personal perspective. A slave *could* be challenging the authority of her or her dom just to sass, or it could be a real squabble. I have no experience in BDSM functions, so yeah, there could be a time where I'd be a bit uncertain. Judging from the wide variety of dynamics on this board... it could be one way or the other.

The OP was clear, but my own inexperience gives way to uncertainty on my part. either way, though.. I'd still stay way out of it.

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 7:34:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

I think the original post was clear enough and said:

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How would one handle a situation of a slave or submissive repeatedly challenging the authority of his/her Owner in a group setting with other M/s couples around?

I'm guessing if the op meant playful sassing, she would have said that, so I'm not sure I understand the confusion.

C~

I disagree. There are people on this board who view sassing as challenging the authority and if a slave told their owner to get their own damn coke as part of a playful banter that they enjoyed, some slaves and some masters would feel a need to "correct" her. It needs to be clarifed to challenging by verbal, challenging by making a scene, challenging by refusing to submit to a scene... whatever. Otherwise it includes everything and what some couples view as playful others view as challenging the authority.

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 8:05:21 AM

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Then if that didn't work I would go get a blow horn and bring it into the "place" and shout...(Until arrested)....Jill is a cunt!! ...Jill is a cunt!!! ....Jill is a cunt!!!!

(while dancing around)

Can I get the DVD please?

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 8:15:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

I think the original post was clear enough and said:

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How would one handle a situation of a slave or submissive repeatedly challenging the authority of his/her Owner in a group setting with other M/s couples around?

I'm guessing if the op meant playful sassing, she would have said that, so I'm not sure I understand the confusion.

C~

I disagree. There are people on this board who view sassing as challenging the authority and if a slave told their owner to get their own damn coke as part of a playful banter that they enjoyed, some slaves and some masters would feel a need to "correct" her. It needs to be clarifed to challenging by verbal, challenging by making a scene, challenging by refusing to submit to a scene... whatever. Otherwise it includes everything and what some couples view as playful others view as challenging the authority.

Except that she didn't ask what constitutes challenging the dominant, rather she asked what people would do if they saw someone doing what they personally percieved as challenging the dominant's authority. So based on whatever you personally think challenging constitutes, what would you do. Not, what does challenging a dominant mean.

Thats why I don't understand why the thread evolved into this red herring of being sassy.

C~

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 8:27:47 AM

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How would one handle a situation of a slave or submissive repeatedly challenging the authority of his/her Owner in a group setting with other M/s couples around?
I understand that the Owner of said slave is the only one that should correct them, however as an unwilling observer of the action how would one handle the situation?

I would be embarrassed for the slave/submissive and probably find a good reason to duck back into the kitchen where I'm generally found in any group situation. If the s/s was a friend of mine where we had the right kind of relationship to do so I might ask them about their relationship and what they were doing some time later, privately, so I could figure it out.

There's a big difference between being sassy, which most people recognize even if they don't approve of it, and challenging authority on a repetitive basis. It's uncomfortable in a vanilla situation. It would be more uncomfortable in a D/s or M/s situation.

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 8:29:06 AM

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Except that she didn't ask what constitutes challenging the dominant, rather she asked what people would do if they saw someone doing what they personally percieved as challenging the dominant's authority. So based on whatever you personally think challenging constitutes, what would you do. Not, what does challenging a dominant mean.

Thats why I don't understand why the thread evolved into this red herring of being sassy.

C~

Because depending upon the exact behavior the response would be very different.

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 9:34:30 AM

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It's just a general question, no details needed. Like "What is she doing?" Well, it does not matter :-) She is challenging authority in a public M/s setting. That's bad enough.

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It's interesting to see what gets disreguarded in order to make ones point. Isn't it?

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 9:41:40 AM

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Ah but that statement leaves a lot of questions.
Is she challenging authority in a sassy cutesy way?
Is she challening authority in a bratty way?
Is she challenging authority in a seriously out of order way?

Amazing how little people think about the question in hand!!

Just my 'cute' opinion.

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 9:43:42 AM

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Not it mention, it also begs the question: How do you get appointed to the d/s police?

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 9:48:18 AM

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I'm thinking be as pig headed and narrow minded as you can be!!
Be proved that your opinion could be wrong but definately never ever admit it openly.
Sure there must be other admittance rules but off the top of my head ........

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RE: Unwilling Witness (For Stephann) - 3/28/2007 9:58:10 AM

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Insubordinant submissives or sams out of hand will be subjected by discretion of the dominant to a group paddling by members of the host / hostess choosing. Such spanking or paddling will consist of no less than 13 swats from the five guest spankers. Refusal to accept appropriate spankings will result in the request that offender leave the party grounds.

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