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Real0ne -> RE: Neocons better STFU and get to work! (3/31/2007 11:00:04 AM)
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ORIGINAL: luckydog1
Aren't you one of the "individual freedom" crowd no thats Real one ect, I argue far more with him than with you- why aren't you extending this notion to the sovereignty of the Middle East? For the same reason I have called the cops on a woman beating her kids. we live in a world, what happens to all of us matter. I do not support the right of the KKK to impose its desire of a racial thoecracy, nor Do I support Al Queda wanting to establish a racial theocracy. You actually think they like living under Kings and Sheiks? Ok Jordan they sort of do, but its a limited monarchy, and he keeps the Palestinains in Line. The women like having thier Clits cut off?
There was a day when this country knew the difference between beating kids and discplining them.
Once the gov got involved there is no difference anymore and what we have now is parents with their hands tied and young children who get their kicks by playing in armed gangs.
The gov wants to police this by tying the hands of parents but will NOT take the responsibility of the consequences of its short sited bleeding hearted actions.
So now we have parents with hands tied saying fuck it let social services deal with them. Family raised by the corporation.
i would never turn someone in for "discplining their child" unless it is obviously harmful or detrimental to the kids health etc.
Many kids will push things to the limit and beyond that is the problem, especially if they know they know where that cap on the parents is and can hide behind the system to get one over on their oppressors of freedom to do whatever they whim, like gang bang.
Now i am not saying that turning them in was unjustified but i woudl never do such a thing without talking with them first about it and letting them know they are going to far and giving them a warning of such.
that and being sovereign has nothing to do with NOT turning in someone who harms a child. a sovereign society does not operate in the manner in which you know.
a sovereign accepts a lot more responsibility than a subject and you are a subject btw.
as subjects people sneak around behind their neighbors backs and squeal on them by violating their rights to govern what is within their jurisdiction to govern as they see fit within reason. that reason being to apply enough force to discipline the child without harm to effect correction so we, (as a government), do not have to deal with them when they are adults.
Of course we as the government prefer to deal with them cradle to grave now days.
as a sovereign YOU take responsibility and as a subject you give it all to the gov as you just indicated you did which only supports further infringement on rights. Maybe even yours.
Now i do not know if you painted it that way, ran the 2 thoughts together, or are trying to make a case for sovereign being somehow evil and irresponsible for the safety of children, so i will give you the benefit of a doubt, but i hope that clarifies it in any case.
oh and the kkk have the right to speak and assemble just liek the rest of us do, like it or nat, likewise with the nazis. The key of course is education.
Jordan? yeh and the iraqis were better off under saddam, the problem with saddam is he wouldnt deal with the us. thats why we took him out.
To add the problem with afghanastan is that they would not deal with gb, so we had to take them out too.
The problem with alqueada is that they are the scape goat and "its all their fault"! we drew first blood and blame them for retaliating without understanding the way they present themselves in "their" terms. (originally)
clits? yeh like bones in the nose and ears, feet wrapping in japan and a host of stoopid shit people once did and ion some cases still do.
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