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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 9:53:38 AM

cassie

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i am going to add a different perspective i think..one that it appears that nobody has even considered.
Master and i have been in a poly relationship. Due to personal reasons, my chain sister left our family about 8 months ago..let me add that she still is one of my best friends.
a few weeks ago i went to Master with the request to begin a search for a new chain sister. i made the request, not Him. i found the desire to continue exploring my bisexuality and having a deep friendship, on an emotional and physical level was something that He needed to know.
yes, if and when we find someone, she will have a relationship with both Master and myself...and Master feels that its vitally important that i know and like the person we bring in to join us.
why does everyone assume that it is only the Dominant who "demands" that a third be added? as part of taking care of me Master, seeks to fulfill my wants and desires.
Just something to consider...
cassie

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 10:55:53 AM

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I personally suspect that most of those "ads" are placed by a single male posing as a female.. and that once a prospective girl Does respond then gee the other girl is "not there " anymore..

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 10:59:54 AM

ProtagonistLily

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I see this has become more of a debate on my intent when deciding to ask such a question. Yes, my spark of interest was stronger because it was written by a sub. Yes, I am young in every sense of the word. My age doesnt at all affect my intuition.

Regrettably, I respectfully disagree with this statment that your age doesn't affect your intuition. That does not mean it has a negative affect necessarily, but it does affect it in the same respect my age affects my perspective. You can't deny the fact that you ARE young. Unless you came up in a household that 'trained' you, you, like many of us who were new at one time, have a great deal of opportunity to grow here. By negating your novice standpoint would be unfortunate for you and probably make the educational perspective a longer road for you. I'm sorry to see you get defensive here, I was actually offering you some means of community support.

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The question may be in fact one of little interest to some of you who have respnded by I still stand by my words on this topic. Never have I come out and given an exact position on it because I do not have one. That is why the question was asked. I want to know what do the rest of think on the issue.

My feelings on the question are that it's unrealistic, and probably coming from 'cyber-kinksters' mostly. For those of us who function in BDSM in real time, there isn't a whole lot of this kind of behavior, submissives being asked to find a 'sister' out there. It's hard enough to find someone compatible in D/s, that most of us realize that the poly thing, though it does happen and can be successful, on a full time basis is somewhat rarer. So, my feelings are you are dealing with people who are caught in the fantasy more than anything else.

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I ask that my age never be a factor because it is a sensitive issue based on the stereotypes that have been branded in the minds of older dominants concerning male DOMs of my age. I dont think the question was at all strange. It was a legitimate one that I felt needed to be asked but it turns out that there is a debate starting where I am placed on the oppposite side of the majority when all I asked was a simple question. What are your feeling on it.

Well, you can ask all you want, but your age is going to be a factor. At 19, I commend you for having the insight and the self awareness to identify your role in Kink; however, it will be an issue, particularly until you are 21. If you feel persecuted by older Doms, then perhaps you need to look at how you are presenting yourself. I would, again, invite you to educate yourself, meet people who are actually practicing real time locally, and be open to learning. Very few Doms (and subs for that matter) show up completely and totally user friendly in the scene. We learn from each other; that's the nice thing about community.

Lily

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 11:11:01 AM

MasterFuture

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a few weeks ago i went to Master with the request to begin a search for a new chain sister. i made the request, not Him. i found the desire to continue exploring my bisexuality and having a deep friendship, on an emotional and physical level was something that He needed to know.

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a few weeks ago i went to Master with the request to begin a search for a new chain sister. i made the request, not Him. i found the desire to continue exploring my bisexuality and having a deep friendship, on an emotional and physical level was something that He needed to know.

It pleases me that you can express you opinions freely without any regards to anything else other than the question at hand. The relationship between a dominant and their submissive can only proper if both parties are happy. For any relationship for that matter. There was never a sway in a decision on my part because I undertsand there are a slew of reasons why a Master would allow their sub/slave to seek out another to join their family. Your situation proves one of my point that you have given yourself to him to the best fo your abilities and was granted a sister. Due to whatever reason that no longer is the case and you are allowed to venture off to find another due to him showing how grateful he is of your dedication towards him. But when a Master sends a slave/sub out for the lone reason of finding someone that would benefit them sexually becuase he doesnt feel up to it brings one to ask have there been an abuse of power that came into play. I couldnt agree or disagree with any side of the spectrum. Each Master has his reason and that alone limits anyone to safely say which arguement is more credible. Dominance or laziness. Your scenerio concurs with him using his stature in a way that would benefit both in a legitimate way. But when he just want some fresh piece of ass then one can argue that he just doesnt feel up to going after it himself and resorts to sending his current. I commend you for answering my question in a repsectable and honest way.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 11:20:07 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFuture
But when he just want some fresh piece of ass then one can argue that he just doesnt feel up to going after it himself and resorts to sending his current. I commend you for answering my question in a repsectable and honest way.

But this begs the question- is it laziness everytime a dom asks the sub to do something the dom could easily do him/herself?

Cooking? Cleaning? Sexual pleasure? Paying bills? Running errands?

Isn't that part of what providing service and obedience as a sub/slave is about? Doing things because the dom doesn't want to or so the dom doesn't have to and making their life easier?

I'm not saying a dom who sends a sub out for ass is always being honorable and upright, and there's plenty of other reasons for a dom to have a sub do things, but they certainly aren't abusing their power just because they don't want to have to deal with it themselves.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 11:31:49 AM

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quote:

It pleases me that you can express you opinions freely without any regards to anything else other than the question at hand. The relationship between a dominant and their submissive can only proper if both parties are happy. For any relationship for that matter. There was never a sway in a decision on my part because I undertsand there are a slew of reasons why a Master would allow their sub/slave to seek out another to join their family. Your situation proves one of my point that you have given yourself to him to the best fo your abilities and was granted a sister. Due to whatever reason that no longer is the case and you are allowed to venture off to find another due to him showing how grateful he is of your dedication towards him. But when a Master sends a slave/sub out for the lone reason of finding someone that would benefit them sexually becuase he doesnt feel up to it brings one to ask have there been an abuse of power that came into play. I couldnt agree or disagree with any side of the spectrum. Each Master has his reason and that alone limits anyone to safely say which arguement is more credible. Dominance or laziness. Your scenerio concurs with him using his stature in a way that would benefit both in a legitimate way. But when he just want some fresh piece of ass then one can argue that he just doesnt feel up to going after it himself and resorts to sending his current. I commend you for answering my question in a repsectable and honest way.

Thank the Gods someone finally agreed with you. Apparently your initial question wasn't soliciting people's opinions; it was put out there in order to find someone who would agree with you, so that you could flex all "domly".

I beg your pardon for not realizing this in the beginning and actually approaching your initial thread starter as if it were legitimate.

Lily

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 12:25:00 PM

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It becomes an I issue rather than a we.

It should not be a we. It is a He. If my Dominant wanted me to find Him someone else to bring into our family, or as in cassies case, I had requested and He had agreed, it is still He. But I may verbalize using the word I. But through deep and long discussion, it would always be for Him, never we. Because I am, only what He desires.

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What does any of this have to do with my question? Are you people serious? I have had this discussion on many private occasions with dominants and subs/slave alike and it was nothing more than a friendly conversing. But all some of you are doing is finding reasons in the words I write to criticize and attack.

I think that you feel attacked, because in your writing you are placing assumptions that what YOU beleive to be BDSM - or a Dominant/submissive relationship - it gospel. And it isn't. You have your beliefs... for example...

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I believe you're confusing your role with a task.

You may wish to think that. But it would be wiser to realise that for Emeralds Dominant, He may not view it like that. He may believe that for her, it is a role. As she has verbalised. It isn't up to you to tell her she is 'wrong'.

Also, and please do not feel this is a personal attack upon you but an observation.
You have used the word 'girl'... you have suggested that 'you are pleased'. Both of these phrases are in essence, condescending towards some bottoms/subs/slaves/kajiras. If you called me 'girl' without knowing me, I would quite clearly inform you that you do not know me well enough to address me as such. And would it matter if you are pleased? Again not an attack, just stating that the only person that matters is the bottoms/subs/slaves/kajiras Dominant. To assume otherwise would be an insult to some.

What I am trying to explain is that everyone in forums such as this, and in life, have different ettiquettes, different understandings and perceptions. Whilst yours is no less important than anyone elses, it is a wise person who opens oneself to realise that their ideas do not fit with everyone elses, and doesn't try to push them onto people unconsensually when people just simply, disagree.

Judgement is easy.
Acceptance is beautiful.
Understanding, takes time.

As for the question in hand. IMO There is nothing unusual about bottoms/subs/slaves/kajiras searching for another for their Dominant. It has nothing to do with laziness. A Dominant may simply feel that His girl will know exactly what He desires. He trusts her, because she is Him (at least part of Him). Maybe He is too busy with work or other commitments to search Himself. She may 'shortlist' potentials. He may want her input. Or He may simply be testing her knowledge of Him so He can see ways to improve her own potential.

Peace and Love

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 12:31:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: ProtagonistLily
Thank the Gods someone finally agreed with you. Apparently your initial question wasn't soliciting people's opinions; it was put out there in order to find someone who would agree with you, so that you could flex all "domly".

I beg your pardon for not realizing this in the beginning and actually approaching your initial thread starter as if it were legitimate.

Lily

S'kay Lily, we all have off days. The first clue was somebody frequently insisting they are neutral, when from their first post it was fairly clear he wasn't. That whole statement of how "he was growing weary of it" belied his supposed neutrality from the start. The whole thing turned into a passive-aggressive display that was almost but not quite amusing. He's had his opinion from the start, and at no point was he open minded. This has been nothing more than a fishing trip for someone to agree with his preconceived notions of how things ought to be. He's 19 and already thinks he knows it all. And why am I suprised by that, has there ever been a 19 year old who didn't think they knew it all? What he doesn't realize is how pretentious and arrogant he sounds... and that anyone who's been in this lifestyle for more than 6 months isn't going to be the least bit impressed with it. He's read some web sites and learned to say all the big words, throw around all the fancy concepts... but he doesn't have a clue how it all really works. Like so many who are new he's hung up one "the one true" way of things which we all know doesn't exist. Its a shame really cause I've got nothing against him for his age... just the stereotypical attitude that so often goes with it. He showed his inexperience when several people older and more experienced than him not only disagreed but disagreed with the way he was responding to people. And instead of having sense enough to stop and ask if he'd inadvertantly given offense he plows on while getting more and more defensive and showing just how insecure he really is. Because anyone who really was secure in themselves... especially in their "dominance" would have been secure enough to stop and say "Didn't mean to offend anyone here, did I say something wrong, I'm new and could use some advice." An had he done so most of us would have all but rolled out the red carpet to give him some guidance, advice, a warm welcome and a complimentary cappucino... thank you for stopping by. And all this started because he's oh so concerned with what other people put in their profiles... what other dominants do with their subs. Here's $2, buy a clue. Worrying over things that you have no control over, things that don't affect you or concern you is borrowing trouble nobody needs. What somebody else does in their profile... whether its slave looking for a slave sister, a pro domme looking for tribute, or 20 something looking for a rich sugar daddy... it doesn't concern you. Click block if you feel the need, but move on, get on with your life. Grow weary of it? Not only is it pretensious its a waste of time... stop worrying over things that don't matter. People will do what they will do, you can't dom the world. Learn to live and let live and you'll get through life with a few less ulcers and a lot more happy memories. Worry about yourself, what you're doing cause you're the only person you are guaranteed being able to control... an if you can't do that much you don't belong in this lifestyle at all. Being a dominant isn't a free ticket to sitting in judgement of others. The best dominants I've know were slow to judge and didn't hesitiate to let themselves be held up to scrutiny. What they did not do is beg people not to judge them, they didn't worry themselves with things beyond their control. What they did do is listen more than they talked... and when they did talk, people listened because they'd earned that respect. They did not walk onto a msg board one day, suddenly declare themselves a master. They didn't speak to people a good deal more senior in experience with disrespect and disregard.

And I'm usually a lot more polite than this... but like I said... everyone has an off day.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 12:45:29 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Padriag
And why am I suprised by that, has there ever been a 19 year old who didn't think they knew it all?

Ummm me...and several others I personally know.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 1:02:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

He's 19 and already thinks he knows it all. And why am I suprised by that, has there ever been a 19 year old who didn't think they knew it all?

I know how this probably sounds, but I didn't think I knew it all :-P I was well aware of the fact that I had been incredibly sheltered by my parents, I knew that I had a lot to learn about ... pretty much everything (my parents may have sheltered me, but they never let my ego get out of control). Not all 19 year olds have the issues that this particular one seems to have ... but then again, guys like this just add support to my former roommate's theory of the "19 year old boy" disease - he'll probably outgrow it soon.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 1:53:08 PM

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Personally, I think if a couple are looking for another to add to their relationship then it stands to reason that they should look together as a couple since such a search will affect both of them.

Sincerely,
merry

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 4:05:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Padriag
And why am I suprised by that, has there ever been a 19 year old who didn't think they knew it all?

*waves at Padriag*
Plenty of stuff I -still- don't know and I'm TWENTY TWO!

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 4:43:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: MasterFuture

I was recently glancing through a series of profiles when I saw one that at 1st I didnt take heed to the question that was asked but over some time it became one that I have given alot of thought towards. It was asked by a sub and it was stated as it is above. "Why do Masters/DOMs solicit their slaves/subs to solicit other slaves/subs for them?" She questioned whether others see it as harmless or just a sign that there are too many who confuse laziness with dominance. An interesting question, atleast I thought it was interesting enough to post. I too grow weary of the increasing numbers of subs/slaves who post that thy are only here in search of a sister/brother as well as those who state that if you message them it will be deleted unread. My question is why? Why would you even create a profile if it is not to be used for anything other than a decoration? Why would a Master/DOMs place the task of uptaining and collaring another when that is clearly not their role? My feelings are balanced in the manner that I can understand both sides of the spectrum but im wondering if anyone else have asked themselves these same questions

My girl came to me and requested the privilege of seeking a sister sub. When we had discussed this scenerio early on, she was of the mind that it was not her place to conduct such a search. Over the course of time she's come to realize that, as demanding as my standards are, she also has minimum standards she would want to see in any addition to the household. She has a vested interest in assuring that a new girl meets her own standards as well as mine.
Timothy

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 5:35:36 PM

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What he doesn't realize is how pretentious and arrogant he sounds... and that anyone who's been in this lifestyle for more than 6 months isn't going to be the least bit impressed with it. He's read some web sites and learned to say all the big words, throw around all the fancy concepts... but he doesn't have a clue how it all really works. Like so many who are new he's hung up one "the one true" way of things which we all know doesn't exist. Its a shame really cause I've got nothing against him for his age... just the stereotypical attitude that so often goes with it.

3 cheers for castlerealm....they've produced yet another 90 minute prodigy into the oh so straight and narrow guidelines of the BDSM world....

(BTW, where's My fuckin cappucino, Bardic ?)

Trav

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 5:48:24 PM

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LOL Trav :: pushes a frothy Black Wine over with couple pieces of Biscotti ::

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 6:15:16 PM

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I didn't read the whole thread...started skipping when it got to the petty bickering, so I don't know if it has been mentioned or not, but in a poly household, it is very beneficial in creating a peaceful household if the girls get along. Its also likely that the slave/submissive will have a pretty good idea of the type of person her owner would enjoy being around and perhaps the skills he may be looking for.

Its not uncommon and certainly nothing new, and while recently I'm starting to see an upsurge in people thinking its "lazy dom" syndrome or some such nonsense, I don't see the problem here... outside the normal bitchfest of it not being what someone else chooses to do so they decide to point fingers at it and see how many others they can get to point fingers. If you do not want your slave/submissive to contact potential partners, or to advise others of the fact that your relationship is open to others, then simply don't do so <shrug>. What do you care what others do anyway?

We (collectively speaking) used to hear (and still do) complaints from people being approached by the dominant instead of the submissive. Apparently, the presumption is that he's going behind her back or lacks honesty. Sheesh...a no win situation...lol. If he does the approaching, he's a no good, two timing, dishonest lout, and if his slave/submissive does it, he's lazy and sends her out to troll or uses her as bait....lol.

If I were not owned and was seeking a poly relationship, I would be much more receptive to being approached by the slave/submissive than directly by the dominant initially. I would just get more of a feeling that everyone was on the same page that way.

best regards,
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P.S. Edited to add:

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I too grow weary of the increasing numbers of subs/slaves who post that thy are only here in search of a sister/brother as well as those who state that if you message them it will be deleted unread. My question is why? Why would you even create a profile if it is not to be used for anything other than a decoration?

Well, let's see...it could be that they are here for discussion purposes...to hang out with friends...or just because they want to be. They are here to fulfill their purposes in being here, not to fulfill *your* purpose in being here. They may choose they only wish to interact with a couple. Or perhaps other females. You see...this website caters to many people each of whom have their own wants, needs and desires.

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Why would a Master/DOMs place the task of uptaining and collaring another when that is clearly not their role?

Uhhmm...oh...an easy one! I know...I know...

Clearly the role of a slave is whatever his/her owner tells her/him it is. Not what *you* decide it is unless, of course, you are the said owner, in which case you get a say. In other people's relationships, you don't. Geez....don't you think it is rather presumptuous of you to say what the role is of someone who doesn't belong to you? <shaking head>

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/13/2005 4:35:49 AM

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There has been alot of words taking out of context and isolated to give a few of you a reason to debate on other issues not pertaining to the original question at hand. I've set myself up for that and have to endure all that comes with it. I honestly think that most of you might have been in the situation where you were a sub/slave sent to seek out another or the Dom/Master who make the order. Since the beginning I knew that my age would play a major role in this debate and it has. Most of the individulas who posted their opinions have said more than their fair share of comment to associate that (my age) with each and every comment that I have made. Some say i went on the defensive and I agree. Reason being is simple, this has started off a a thread based on a question that I wanted your opinions on and them progressed into a whole other debate on me thinking that I know it all. I've explained what I thought of the situation and the general topic was reverted to me and my intentions. it seems as though some of you are regualrs and have grown used to agreeing with other to the point it becomes second nature. there was no need for the reason there was only one topic to agree or disagree on. dominance or laziness. Some gace their own personal accounts agreeing with one side and that is what I commended. With doing that I set myself up again with someone needing that oppurtunity to make the idiotic comment of me just needing someone to agree with me to make me feel "domly". It never fails. Time and time again all I pretty much hear are insults with some saying its just some words of advice I need to hear. Me being exposed to this life at such a early age has given me the oppurtunity to grow for a longer perios than say a 40 yr old man who is just starting out. If we all look back to my 1st posting it will say that the question was not originally mine but I chose to voice it out on a bigger platform than she did. Im not going to sit here and apologise if I said something that might have struck a chord with some of you. Everyone is entitled to their own feelings and rightfully so. But when you tell me that what I say is wrong because you dont agree with it them you turn the topic of discussion more into the question of traditional values VS. your own theories of what a D/s relationship should be. Everyone has their own methods of practice. Everyone has their own free will to participate in whatever it is they see fit. I've never pointed a finger and yet you say i do. I've never agreed with one side of the arguement and awaited an agrement and yet you say I have. Im not for or against the main arguement but i've been placed on one side. There nothing I can say that wont be reverted into a reason to make an arguementative staement and im sure there are things that I am writing that just reeks with that potential. Society has lost its civilized nature, im light years late in stating this, but I have just witness a first hand account of it. None of this was neccessary. I have said that the D/s bond is one of a sacred nature. A sub/slaves does what she is asked because of the loyalty and respect she has for her dominant. The chores, the errands, all of which she does is out of that respect. The sexual desires that she fulfills for her Master falls into thaty category but I will not feed more fuel to the flame and get ino that. I thank you all for your comments, regarding the question and the insults. You have changed my frame of mind of what I think of the older participants of this way of life. I have spoken to several others that agreed that this has served as entertaining. Stressful but entertaining. I leave with a smile on my face beause I have learned something, which I am sure was the reason for the arguement. It was nice but all good things must come to an end. The best of luck to you all.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/13/2005 6:44:24 AM

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Want some cheese with that whine MasterFuture?

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/13/2005 8:22:49 AM

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Ok, I'm going to make my little "age" speach.

Future- you ARE going to face discrimination based on your age. Just as I am/do and anyone who is younger or started younger does.

It happens. It sucks, but it happens.

After quite some time of being invovled on this message board and others, I've learned something. The important thing is just to be who you are. To represent yourself with pride and dignity. To not appologize for knowing who you are at 17 or 18 or 22. Rather than say "I am 22, and you're treating me like an idiot because of it" accept that that might happen and act in the best way you know how, being the person you want to be, regardless of your age.

The people who matter take you seriously, because you've shown yourself to be a person of integrity. The people who don't get stuck on the fact that you're 19.

It's hard. Don't get me wrong. Often (not always) when someone disagrees with me, they state that I'm too young to be taken seriously and that my perspective is obviously naieve. Well, it's the only perspective I've got at this point in my life.

One is taken much more serously if, instead of complaining about being treated poorly because of ones age, one simply continues to do what one needs to do. No one is invovled in your relationship except its memebers, and no one else can really say anything about you.

Instead of lamenting, just be who you are. Eventually, nature shows over age.

S

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/13/2005 4:50:25 PM

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My girl and I are looking for another submissive female. She's bi, it makes sense for us. Why wouldn't I have her look? We're both in this relationship, and we'll both be in any expanded version of it too. As for those that think that sub females looking for other subs are fakes by a single dom to lure in subs- my experience is it's a lot easier to attract submissives when you're single. Saying you already have a sub shuts out about 90 per cent of potential submissives. It's also been the case that most of the bi girls that contact her first aren't really interested in poly relationships, just in having a relationship with a girl with enough other attachments that they don't have to pay much attention to her. All in all, if it didn't reflect our real situation and desires, we wouldn't take the trouble.

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